r/geography Oct 29 '24

What is the most interesting fact about Cyprus? Discussion

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u/Kernowder Oct 29 '24

There is a ski resort in Cyprus in the Troodos mountains.

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u/Erdkost Oct 29 '24

I was there in February 2023. Two days before I was able to swim in the sea at around 20°C and after a bit of driving I stood on the slightly snow-covered Mt. Olympus and was surprised to see the ski lift running. A nice contrast.

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u/dotancohen Oct 29 '24

Not uncommon. Mt Hermon in Israel and Anzali in Iran feature similar contrasts - skiing and swimming in the sea just an hour's drive away.

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u/andorraliechtenstein Oct 29 '24

And Spain, Sierra Nevada. But that would be 2 hours driving to be honest.

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u/dogsledonice Oct 29 '24

And Vancouver/Whistler

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

More like North Vancouver for skiing and urban Vancouver for swimming at the beach same day in the spring time.

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u/DRM2020 Oct 29 '24

Did you eve try to swim in Pudget Sound (or in ocean by PNW shore)? Like, it's still a liquid water, but just barely...

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Not sure exactly where those spots are, I no longer live in Vancouver. But I have swam in the ocean in countless spots along the coast there and yes it’s almost always freezing cold. However I’m used to swimming in glacier water where I grew up in the Rocky Mountains.

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u/DRM2020 Oct 29 '24

That was my point: you can certainly swim and ski in places ~1 hour drive apart from each other in PNW, but the expertise is quite different from Cyprus.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

You can do grouse or cypress in the morning and then hit English Bay or Kitsilano Beach in the afternoon in the spring and it can go above 25C sometimes

Edit: I got confused because there’s a ski hill in Vancouver called Cypress 🤦‍♂️

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u/Adventurous_Air7793 Oct 30 '24

And in Los Angeles as well.

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u/sr_manumes Oct 29 '24

In Chile you could too, but in 2 hours.

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u/izbbba Nov 01 '24

Same w Australia, abit over 2hrs.

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u/Lexitech_ Oct 29 '24

In Southern California, too!

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u/whatisevenavailable Oct 29 '24

Surf ski and skate all in one day :)

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u/I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA Oct 29 '24

Add in New Zealand as well.

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u/AngriosPL Oct 29 '24

And my axe!

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u/Smartyunderpants Oct 29 '24

It’s not a warm swim in NZ when the ski fields are open which I think is the original point

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u/I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA Oct 29 '24

Neither is it in SoCal. The pacific is cold as fuck haha.

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u/Smartyunderpants Oct 29 '24

And what the temperature at the beach on those days vs in NZ ?

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u/I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA Oct 29 '24

Probably 60F/15C.

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u/El-Chamorro Oct 29 '24

Start in San Diego end in Kernville or Mammoth in a single day

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u/epaplzstay Oct 29 '24

It’s still cool, though.

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u/lurks-a-little Oct 29 '24

Yo, Faraya/Mzaar in Lebanon checking in!!

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u/dotancohen Oct 29 '24

This time next year,inshallah, either I'll be driving with you from Hermon to Nahariyah, or you'll be driving me from Mzaar to Manuella!

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u/lurks-a-little Oct 29 '24

Yeah why not, If both nations can get their shit together, sign a peace treaty and end this decades long vicious cycle of violence.

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u/org_anicyanide Oct 29 '24

Mt Hermon is in Syria/lebanon not Israel

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u/dotancohen Oct 29 '24

Get your narrative straight. I'll help you.

Hezbollah (not Lebanon, and not Syria) claim that the hill with Shabaa Farms is Lebanese. Not MT Hermon. The entire Golan heights is claimed by Syria, including Mt Hermon, who lost it when they attacked Israel in 1967. Israel then annexed it in 1980.

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u/Leefa Oct 29 '24

So it's Syrian, got it.

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u/Aggravating-Alps-919 Oct 29 '24

No when you fight a war and lose territory and have it offered back to you in exchange for peace and then you say no, it isn't yourself anymore.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution

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u/Leefa Oct 29 '24

lol it's objectively Israeli-occupied Syrian territory and is not recognized as Israeli by the entire world. Illegal occupation. All you have to do is look it up instead of performing gymnastics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

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u/Aggravating-Alps-919 Oct 29 '24

It being illegal occupied is based on which country you ask. Some countries recognize it as a legal occupation on self defense grounds and the us recognizes it as part of Israel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_the_Golan_Heights

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u/DiaBoloix Oct 29 '24

Mt Hermon is in Syria dude..

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u/Apptubrutae Oct 29 '24

Cool. I’ll fly into Damascus and drive down. Should be no issue.

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u/tessartyp Oct 29 '24

I mean, apart from the general unsafety of driving in Syria, IIRC the highest peak of the Hermon is still on the Syrian side. I've only ever cycled to the ski resort, but I recall that the army position at the Israeli peak is still lower than the Syrian one.

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u/dotancohen Oct 29 '24

Mt Hermon was annexed by Israel in 1980, 13 years after being captured in a war after Syria attacked. The Syrians might want it back, but we could say that about a lot of lands lost in lots in wars.

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u/DiaBoloix Oct 29 '24

So no Slava Ukraine here?? All are game?

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u/dotancohen Oct 29 '24

I have no side in the Ukraine-Russia war, nor was I expressing any opinion about modern politics.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Syria gained its independence in 1947. Its borders were set by the British and French, who conquered the region in 1918. Israel conquered the Golan Heights/Mt. Hermon in 1967 following the six days war.

So Syria “received” this land from an entity that ruled for 29 years, obtained in conquer. Syria held the area for 20 years, during which it used to fire mortars on civilian villages in Israel. Israel holds the land for 57 years.

So it is far more Israeli than Syrian.

And if conquering a land doesn’t mean it ever stops belonging to the conquered, then it was never France/Britain’s to give to Syria in the first place.

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u/DiaBoloix Oct 29 '24

Mexico belongs to Spain because it was under their rule for 300 years...and mexico is only 200 years old.

Is that?

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '24

Mexico received independence from Spain, so not sure where you’re going with this. The Golan Heights aren’t independent.

A more apt question would be whether California and New Mexico belong to Mexico, as they were once under their rule.

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u/DiaBoloix Oct 30 '24

Did you believe in the international rules that FORBID the unilateral annexation of territory?

Telling you because I do not believe Syria has agreed to or signed any document giving the land to others.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '24

"Did you believe in the international rules that FORBID the unilateral annexation of territory?"

Ahh yes, the international rules that were formed by... the world's government? I guess there's an uber-police that's locks up lesser-governments if they don't follow these rules? yeah, I don't think you understand what an "international law" even is.

"Telling you because I do not believe Syria has agreed to or signed any document giving the land to others." - doh! and there I was thinking that conquering land is done based on a mutual agreement and understanding. Silly me.

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u/Illustrious_Lands Oct 29 '24

🛎️🛎️🛎️ It was, indeed, never Britain or France’s to give to anyone.

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u/Lojka59 Oct 29 '24

even in our winter region i need to drive 3h to good skiing hills

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u/Embarrassed-Dot1335 Oct 29 '24

In Platak, Croatia you can ski with seaviews of the Kvarner gulf. Definitely a bit of a mindfuck.

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u/Erdkost Oct 29 '24

Nice that sounds very tempting!

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u/CassieBeeJoy Oct 29 '24

When people visited us in the winter when my dad was working at Troodos Station people would be amazed when we said they should bring some warm clothes.

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u/Gruffleson Oct 29 '24

Norwegian tourists probably goes swimming in the ocean while the locals wears winter-cloths.

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u/fatbunyip Oct 29 '24

Not really any more.

In the 80s and early 90s, we'd get 2m of snow easy. These days, it's 50/50 if we get any snow at all.

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u/bkbouillabaisse Oct 30 '24

I just learned this from a friend who vacationed there and it blew my mind.