r/dndmemes • u/Ill-Individual2105 • Mar 17 '23

Would anything break if you let Rogues do sneak attacks with strength? eDgY rOuGe

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u/clutzyninja Mar 17 '23

So RAW for AOO is leaving your reach. It doesn't say the reach of any of your wielded weapons. That says to me if you're wielding a whip, your reach is 10 feet, period, and you only get an AOO if an enemy leaves THAT range

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u/chain_letter Mar 18 '23

https://www.sageadvice.eu/if-a-monster-has-2-different-reaches-when-does-it-get-opportunity-attacks/

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u/clutzyninja Mar 18 '23

Fair enough. Of course Crawford offers his interpretations, and are not truly official. I happen to disagree with him here

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u/Kris_Pantalones Mar 18 '23

This is correct, in my option and by sage advice, I think. It's when a creature leaves a threatened area, so having reach means you don't get AoO when they move 5ft away from right next to you and are still within 10ft. There's nothing that says you get to pick which range you want to threaten at a given moment. Your max reach would determine that.

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u/ValkyrianRabecca Warlock Mar 18 '23

So if you have a whip and a longsword... you're forced to use the weaker weapon?

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u/clutzyninja Mar 18 '23

No, you can not try to exploit the rules, and just have your main weapon equipped and use that

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u/ValkyrianRabecca Warlock Mar 18 '23

Exploit the Rules... what? Asking to swing my longsword at someone in longsword range is rule explot?

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u/clutzyninja Mar 18 '23

I have no idea what you're talking about. We're talking about having a whip in your off hand solely to get AOO on enemies within 10 ft instead of 5

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u/ValkyrianRabecca Warlock Mar 18 '23

If I have a whip in my off hand and a longsword in my main hand

It isn't rules exploit to want to longsword the enemy when he steps out of 5ft reach and then on a later turn whip someone who walks out of 10ft reach

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u/clutzyninja Mar 18 '23

To me it is. RAW says you get an AOO when an enemy leaves your reach. If you have a whip, they are still in your reach until they leave 10 ft. And let's be clear here, the only reason someone would want to do this isn't for an enemy they're engaged with, it's so they have a larger zone to attack other enemies attempting to maneuver. If you want to do that, fine, then main hand the whip and use it as your primary weapon.

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u/ValkyrianRabecca Warlock Mar 18 '23

Is there something so wrong with a martial wanting to hit people in melee and at a slight range reliably?

Like seriously what is the actual issue at hand, cause it ain't rules exploiting in the slightest

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u/clutzyninja Mar 18 '23

The reason the whip has less damage is because of its range. You are expected to trade damage for range when choosing it as your weapon. This is attempting to double dip, and primarily get the greater damage of the sword, while still having the range of the whip accessible.

Is it game breaking? No, not at all. Is it a big deal? Nope. Would I allow it at my table? Maybe. Is it an exploit? I say yes.