r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

No father too?

Post image
32.9k Upvotes

View all comments

Show parent comments

15

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

It also means you're not aiming to stop, your aiming to destroy.

14

u/pm_me_petpics_pls 1d ago

To be fair, that is how you use a gun. If you aren't prepared to kill, don't use a firearm.

3

u/J3remyD 1d ago

Pretty much, yeah.

No matter the reason, The second a gun is pulled by anybody and deliberately pointed at someone, it’s just become a life or death situation.

-15

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

You're just hungry for blood.

9

u/ProudInspection9506 1d ago

You just don't know what you're talking about. That's literally what they teach you.

-10

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

Are they in the room with you now?

12

u/ProudInspection9506 1d ago

Ah, so you're just a troll.

-8

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

No, just someone who understands all gun use situations are not life and death.

7

u/ProudInspection9506 1d ago

Then you don't understand guns. They are a deadly tool and should only be used if you plan on killing what you're pointing them at. Like I said, literally anyone that teaches gun use or safety tells you that.

3

u/Brief_Angle_14 1d ago

Yup. They teach you not to pull a gun unless you're ready to pull the trigger when you get your concealed carry license. They also teach you to shoot to kill and not to wound as you'll just get sued for injuring them.

1

u/twilightsparkle69 20h ago

Obviously you need to be ready to pull the trigger, obviously you must be ready for that the one at the of the barrel dies. I'm sorry it has come to it in America, that it's better to take a life on purpose than get sued.

→ More replies

1

u/charleswj 16h ago

They also teach you to shoot to kill and not to wound as you'll just get sued for injuring them.

This isn't true you or they are bastardizing the message.

You shouldn't tell anyone that you shot to injure because it can be used against you to show that the situation didn't require deadly force ("if you didn't feel the need to kill them, why did you use a method that could?")

Separately, you shouldn't actually shoot to injure because you're taking non-optimal shots. You should always aim for center mass because, due to inaccuracies in your aiming or the sights or recoil, you're more likely to hit something if you ain't for the middle of that thing. Aiming for an arm means you're just as likely to hit chest as air. Aiming for chest means you might accidentally hit arm or arm or head.

→ More replies

1

u/mutantraniE 1d ago

I was actually trained to shoot people in the leg during guard duty when I did compulsory military service. Since then I think the training has changed, but it has been done by actual militaries.

1

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

I was also taught that we need to stop the enemy from attacking us, not necessarily kill them. Not legs though, those are hard to hit and don't really disable them from shooting at us, but center of body/stomach works well there. Hard to shoot at anyone when you're trying to keep your guts from spilling out.

→ More replies

1

u/Brief_Angle_14 1d ago

Most of the training done for civilians tell you not to shoot to wound, though. As it opens you up to being sued for the injury. I remember reading about an old lady that was defending herself from an armed individual that broke into her house. She shot the guy after warning him she was armed as she was taught to do in her concealed carry class but she didn't kill him. He ended up suing her for the injury and won.

→ More replies

-3

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

What are you doing here really? You're just lusting over blood and picking fights with strangers over internet and trying to get people to shoot each other dead.

7

u/Necessary-Yak-5433 1d ago

I think he's saying that if you don't mean to kill someone, don't point a fucking gun at them.

It's a pretty good rule to have. Shooting to wound or pulling a gun to otherwise deescalate a situation is a bad idea because a situation becomes infinitely more likely to become lethal if someone pulls a gun. And if you're not willing to pull the trigger then someone could take the gun from you and use it against you, or otherwise kill you, and they'd be within their right to do so because you just pointed a lethal weapon at them.

Original commenter is saying don't pull a gun at all if you don't think you absolutely have to in order to keep yourself alive.

→ More replies

1

u/Brief_Angle_14 1d ago

If a gun is involved in an altercation, it's life or death. It seems like you've never had any training or taken a firearm safety course. Please, if you own firearms get training. The untrained just end up making it worse for those of us that are responsible firearm owners.

1

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

Here's the thing, no one said that were looking at a gun on gun situation. To some it just seems to be the first expectation and therefore reasoning to always shoot (to kill) first, ask questions later.

1

u/Brief_Angle_14 19h ago

It doesn't have to be firearm on firearm to be a very dangerous situation and no one said to kill first and ask questions later. You're actually trained to give multiple warnings (if you can) before and after even unholstering your firearm. No one here is saying you just have to start blasting the moment you pull a weapon, but that you need to have the intention to use the firearm if you're going to pull it out. Literally all civilian training teaches this.

→ More replies

5

u/ballsjohnson1 1d ago

He's right, the sole functional purpose of guns is to kill people. Or scare them because they have fear you will kill them. That's why they should be regulated more and police should undergo more deescalation training

2

u/twilightsparkle69 1d ago

Agree with you half way there. In my country police use deadly force rarely and people don't have self protection guns, mostly for hunting animals.

1

u/Bushman-Bushen 1d ago

The whole point of allowing firearms for defense is to make them accessible for the busy single mom.

1

u/ballsjohnson1 1d ago

Totally cool with that if they get at least 40hrs mandatory training

1

u/Bushman-Bushen 1d ago

Nope that’s literally what a defense firearm is for.

4

u/Lay-Me-To-Rest 1d ago

Correct. You destroy a threat to cease it's ability to be a threat. You don't want to tickle a home invader.

1

u/Phyraxus56 1d ago

That's just a legal disclaimer