r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

ALL of those things relate to health!

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u/ChaosKinZ 1d ago

Health is not just the lack of disease. We've known this for decades

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u/Unknown-History1299 1d ago

It’s how Health is defined by the WHO

Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity

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u/SquigleySquirel 1d ago

Good thing we’re pulling out of that woke organization on January 20. (/s because that’s sadly needed these days)

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u/RaygunMarksman 1d ago

I love how everything informative, including history can now be hand-waved away as, "woke". Like we're in the Matrix and having awareness of anything that doesn't fit a narrative prescribed by those in control is deviant behavior.

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u/Chroniclyironic1986 1d ago

That’s the propaganda machine working as intended. They believe what they’re told without ever thinking: “maybe there’s a better way to do this”. Plenty of other countries have figured it out with good results, but ALL of them are wrong? Or maybe it could be that the people who make the rules/laws and tell us all what to believe make way more $$$ from the way things are set up here and now.

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u/RaygunMarksman 1d ago

I've been revisting the Wealth of Nationa by Adam Smith (the bible of what we recognize as capitalism) and one of the eye-opening things is how our gung ho "capitalism", free market worshipping system is basically just cherry picked pieces of the overall theory. Mostly just the feel good bits that benefit the rich.

Smith warned that people are selfish, will try to enact unjust government policies that benefit their business interests, and noted once you start having monopolies, the whole structure starts breaking down and the proletariat will eventually get pissed at being taken advantage of so severely and tear it all down.

I'm sure that all also falls under, "woke," but I hate this proudly ignorant and comatose state we're in right now.

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u/Chroniclyironic1986 1d ago

That’s interesting, i’ll have to read it.

I always think it’s ironic that not all but a LOT of the arguments against socialism, communism, and similar systems boil down to the same thing. The people in charge will get greedy and use their influence to enrich themselves and their friends at the expense of the majority of people. As if we don’t already have that happening now. And as the checks and balances are torn away it’s just getting worse and worse. I hate that my kids have will have to either live through a revolution or be exploited by a system that grows worse by the day.

Seems like anything that points to what we currently have in place as less than perfect is “woke” and it blows my mind that that’s a bad thing to so many. These are the same people who refuse to entertain anything other than what they’re told to believe. And fully trust the people making obscene amounts of money to tell us all if they’re making too much money off of us.

We can’t have unbiased news if it’s run for profit. We can’t change the rules if elections aren’t publicly funded, because right now they just go to the highest bidder. It’s a viscous cycle that doesn’t seem to have a peaceful resolution.

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u/RaygunMarksman 1d ago

Agree with all of that! And you're right, it's all the economic philosophies are subject to being exploited and eventually controlled by the self-serving. Ideally we'd have a government that only represents the people to control such things, but we long ago allowed politicians to be bought and serve as representatives of whoever has the most money and power.

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u/Available-Damage5991 1d ago

So, the father of capitalism was well aware of the dangers of letting it go too far.

Smart guy.

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u/Ok_Crow_9119 1d ago

He was pro-regulations. He knew that having unchecked, libertarian capitalism would lead to this dystopia that we currently live in. The invisible hand of the market only works if there are regulations in place.

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u/Independent_Plum2166 1d ago

But like all dictatorships, those in power cherry pick the truth to make themselves stronger and the people weaker.

America is falling apart (admittedly, a lot of the world is) and it’s going to break under the pressure and when it does, all anyone can hope is people with actual brains can come along and help fix the mess right-wing capitalism has turned the world into.

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u/RaygunMarksman 1d ago

Yep! I have a lot of issues with the philosophy, but it would be cool if die-hard advocates considered all of it. A few examples.

Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have property against those who have none at all.

If [justice] is removed, the great, the immense fabric of human society, that fabric which to raise and support seems in this world if I may say so has the peculiar and darling care of Nature, must in a moment crumble into atoms.

What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable.

The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities...

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u/Carl-99999 1d ago

Capitalism isn’t the main issue. The fact is billionaires abandoned it for cronyism when they realized Eisenhower was gonna run as a Republican

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u/UnlimitedCalculus 1d ago

[Drakes refuses] Woke

[Drake approves] Redpilled

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u/RickToTheE 1d ago

Ironic since the idea is the red pill is supposed to wake you up to reality. Yet all the red pillers hate woke

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u/illgot 1d ago

I love how Trumps administration pulls out of very important organizations before a pandemic hits.

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u/SquigleySquirel 1d ago

I’m sure RFK Jr. will make sure we’re completely safe from any silly pandemic. And under the amazing leadership of Elmo and Vivian, the Office of Government Efficiency will live up to its name and make sure that protection is efficiently delivered. To that .001% who can afford it.

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u/NoraDayradream 1d ago

Health also includes access to resources and support systems, which are crucial for everyone.

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u/SquigleySquirel 1d ago

Absolutely. For too many years I ignored the mental problems. Separating from my wife last November kicked my ass into gear. I’m back in therapy (had been twice previously) and on meds (same). It’s made a world of difference and our marriage is stronger than it’s ever been.

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u/Carl-99999 1d ago

I would not be surprised if he leaves the UN

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u/SquigleySquirel 1d ago

He will if they don’t start paying more towards defense. And if NATO doesn’t stop trying to police the world he’ll leave them too.

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u/Ok-Elk-6087 1d ago

The WHO is a bunch of damn globalists blowing smoke at you.  /s

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u/renshiermine 1d ago

Do you have citations for that?

Edit: Nevermind, https://www.who.int/about/governance/constitution

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u/goblin-socket 1d ago

Physicians attend entire classes over stress, and how mental stress will cause physical ailments, and worse, exaceberate existing conditions.

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u/GregAbbottsTinyPenis 1d ago

Right, but the priority is keeping the poors in control, not keeping the poors healthy. If their healthcare isn’t dependent on their employers, how will the employers feel when they’ve lost an immense level of control over their subordinates lives?

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u/misterdonjoe 1d ago

“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

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u/CliplessWingtips 1d ago

"Science is for those bratty elite types! Anti-science is more my brand!"

~MAGA

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u/BusGuilty6447 1d ago

why do we let you people vote

Based lol

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u/Popular-Student-9407 1d ago

One quote commonly attributed to churchill is "The best Argument against democracy is an Interview with the average voter"

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u/BusGuilty6447 1d ago

When you look at the numbers of votes that actually determine elected officials or political decisions (for example, Brexit), it is often a significant minority of the population. Brexit was decided by like... 23% of the population. Is that REALLY as democratic as it sounds?

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u/bird9066 1d ago

And you're not even touching on things that keep people from the polls. Like it not being a holiday in the USA. Yes, employers are supposed to let you vote, but with some of the wait times and lines ( by design) people can't risk losing their crappy job for it.

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u/Some_Syrup_7388 1d ago

That's why mandatory voting should be implemented in every functioning democracy, voting is not a right, it's an obligation

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u/usernamisntimportant 1d ago

You can't forced an informed decision. I'd probably rather have people not going to vote than them voting for the first name on every list or throwing in the first piece of paper because they were forced to. But I can see it influencing some more people to care potentially.

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u/mighty_conrad 1d ago

There's a field "none of the above" and spoiled ballots (effectively the same). If you're concerned about "they just pick first" - randomized ballots or "none of the above" field first is your option. And myriad of countless measures to make sure everybody can vote, from mandatory paid day offs, in-mail voting, moving voting booths and so on.

That's about "can't force a decision". Now, about "informed".

Since we're in thread of the reply about US elections, US citizens have either two systemic problems that suppress their ability to vote or willingly stupid. President campaigns effectively start from midterms, so for 2 years you had candidate programs for both. Biden had program simply because he was an incumbent president, Trump had "concepts of a plan" or Project 2025, doesn't matter. You had numerous debates, meetings and so on. For two years US citizens and rest of the world watched US election campaigns of both. It's statistically impossible that 40+% of eligible voters didn't hear a single thing about election.

If we won't blame people, then their ability to vote is massively suppressed AND education system in USA is horrible. And while there exists ignorant idiots in this cohort, voter suppression definitely exists (voter IDs with sternous ways to get them and suppression of ability to vote mail-in) together with the fact that US education is shit (Like, 10 years ago Michio Kaku already explained it in simple terms - schools and colleges in USA are horrible, single reason why USA is leader in scientific research and high-qualified work is H-1B visa).

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u/fplisadream 1d ago

Failing to vote is tacitly accepting the outcome of the vote, so yes - it is democratic.

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u/Popular-Student-9407 1d ago

I don't know what you're playing at, and unless you're playing at Money in politics, it's Always the Last percent that makes a decision, because it's how elections Work. You can't make a decision, unless all votes are counted.

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u/BusGuilty6447 1d ago

I am saying it is not some magical bulletproof system people are often so easily led to believe. Do I have a better idea? Not really. But as you said yourself with the quote above, an interview with the average voter makes you realize it may not necessarily be the best system when some people don't know their head from their ass, and there are a lot of those people in the US.

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u/withmyusualflair 1d ago

aaron sorkin had entered the chat

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u/nomoneyforufellas 1d ago

Michael’s comment alone just solidified my support for repealing the 17th amendment lol

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u/Some_Syrup_7388 1d ago

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State

God that's so fucken dumb

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u/nomoneyforufellas 1d ago

What is dumb is the fact that we have two houses that are elected by the popular vote, except one house has a lot more power and influence over the other. I can understand the need for changing the process as deadlocks and corruption affected the senate process, but switching it to the direct election has resulted in worse problems today. Its either dissolve the senate and let the house usurp the responsibilities of the senate or bring back the old process and bring reforms to kill deadlocks such as requiring every state government to have one chamber and an odd number of seats as Nebraska does with their state legislature. We should not have two houses with unequal power voted in the exact same process when you have idiots like Michael have a say in the upper chamber.

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u/TurtleMOOO 1d ago

I wish we could do so much more than not let the morons vote. I fucking hate stupid people.

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u/Fearless_Spring5611 1d ago

If you don't understand that health is, at minimum, a biopsychosocial concept, then you do not understand what you are talking about.

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u/wawdaawd 1d ago

Health impacts every aspect of our lives. Social and economic factors play a huge role in well-being.

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u/Key-Pickle5609 1d ago

We don’t do enough to teach the social determinants of health.

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u/fitnfeisty 1d ago

Louder for the people in the back! Social determinants of health are very real and well studied.

It’s so sad when patients delay seeking out care due to fear of financial burden only to find that it’s too late: their cancer metastasized, their foot infection is down to the bone and now we need to cut off some toes, etc

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u/GregAbbottsTinyPenis 1d ago

No no no no no. We should let the people with zero education and zero daily operation in relevant fields and zero critical analysis skills speak on what health is.

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u/Fearless_Spring5611 1d ago

That's where I've been going wrong! Thank you, you wonderful little penis.

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u/KalexCore 1d ago

Healthcare is obsessing over seed oils while eliminating coverage for preexisting conditions.

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u/dougmcclean 1d ago

Zero isn't low enough. We should require them to be seeped (not to say "educated") in anti-scientific and non-sensical misinformation schemes adjacent to health.

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u/Uncle_owen69 1d ago

As soon as you said bio…. This argument went out the window for them cause it’s science related . If you use a scientific word they can’t related or understand you have to dumb it down to health is body and mind and even then they’ll prolly tell you it’s not

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u/mjekarn 1d ago

But but but health is when potato chip illegal!

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u/NidhoggrOdin 1d ago

You think right wingers care? lmao

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u/infinitezero8 1d ago

you do not understand what you are talking about.

Twitter in a nutshell

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u/Disney_World_Native 1d ago

We are (at best) temporary healthy. It is inevitable that we will all one day get sick and become permanently ill.

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u/dude496 1d ago

Seems like the go to answer for the MAGA crowd is to go on the attack without reading, comprehending and understanding whatever thing goes against anything related to making America great again.

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u/Far-Investigator1265 1d ago

Also why they are MAGA...

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u/Gruejay2 1d ago

And a lot of the time it works, because people will read the attack without checking the original. It's very frustrating.

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u/Sea_Interaction1558 1d ago

Bernie sanders=socialist so he’s evil! People(MAGA) don’t want to listen to someone that has decent ideas and looking out for well being of the common folks. He just wants universal healthcare, affordable education, corporations to pay their share, living wages just to name a few. Can’t listen to this guy. But they will listen to the orange ass hat that is a business man!!! Failed in every business he had. It’s embarrassing honestly.

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u/GreenGoblin121 1d ago

But all that stuff is obviously communism and stealing money from hard working people.

Some of these people aren't just stupid they actively have no empathy for others.

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u/Carl-99999 1d ago

If you ask a socialist or. communist they will go off with ”CYAPITOLISUM WITH LIGHTER CHAINS!” when you talk about social democracy and the general Bernie Region(TM) of political thought

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u/totallynotstefan 1d ago

I had a brief twitter stint a year or so ago. I quickly realized that these folks either hop in and say some demonstrably stupid shit that betrays their complete misunderstanding of every machination that governs societal function and disappear, or they argue against common sense and adhere to whatever other lies floating around that reinforce their favorite brand of bullshit.

Society as a whole would be much better off if twitter never existed.

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u/seensham 1d ago

Exactly. The first sentence of the article mentioned "life expectancy, happiness, and productivity"

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u/WildFemmeFatale 1d ago

Bernie: I want you all to be healthy. I will lower your medical costs so you can get the care you need and afford the medicine you need. I will give you all more money so you can afford better food and not go hungry. I will cut your working hours so you don’t go through as much labor and strain on your health, and you can feel less stressed out and less depressed, aka get better mental health.

Dipshits: UMMMM “ACKSHUALLY” NONE OF THAT IS HEALTH ☝️🤡

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 1d ago

what do book-learned doctors know about health.

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u/Carl-99999 1d ago

I’m working on my Bernie impression

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u/jonnismizzle 1d ago

"Ain't none of those thangs be relatin' ta health, I reckons. And I know relations, cuz I married mah sister! Yee yee!"

  • Michael, probably

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u/Salt_Celebration_502 1d ago

Michael then proceeded to yell racial slurs at his phone after Tiktok showed him a post he'd consider "too woke"

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u/jonnismizzle 1d ago

Claims everyone is soft and everything "woke" has made us snowflakes.

Cries about who uses what bathroom.

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u/dahjay 1d ago

*esq, nonetheless

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u/Keyrov 1d ago

Roll tide!!!

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u/Testicleus 1d ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/TheTallEclecticWitch 1d ago

Who the fuck is Michael anyway? I swear, the hand these blue checks out like candy now

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u/Rainydayday 1d ago

Pretty sure you just have to pay a monthly fee for a blue check.

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u/blazentaze2000 1d ago

No you see to these people health is drinking unpasteurized milk, a carnivore diet, and refusing vaccines for polio and the like.

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u/Lasagna8606 1d ago

"Democracy is of the people, for the people, by the people, but the people are retarded"

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u/Gallifrey4637 1d ago

“Real salt of the earth folks… you know, morons!” - Gene Wilder, Blazing Saddles

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u/PossibleDue9849 1d ago

I wish I could see the timeline where he wins in 2016 against HC.

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u/Kingblack425 1d ago

Better yet the timeline where Florida didn’t cheat and give us bush. That may have been a run of democrats from gore, Obama, and Bernie but that’s probably our best timeline not including one with no Reagan.

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u/Testicleus 1d ago

💯

I want to see that timeline.

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u/SupraMichou 1d ago

I find it incredibly painful to know people failing at basic intelligence can have the same weight than others in democratic processes

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u/Suspicious-Shock-934 1d ago

Yes its painful, but its better thay way. Every idiot gets a vote that counts equally to every not-idiot. I might not like or agree with them, but their voice is as valid as mine.

Ideally of course.

If we just end gerrymandering, uncap the house, end the electoral college, stop voter supression, making voting day national holidays, require voting by all, end propoganda and echo chamber news pushing narratives, remove foreign interference, then we will be fine.

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u/Lamballama 1d ago

end gerrymandering

Would help

uncap the house,

Would help

end the electoral college, stop voter supression

Could help

making voting day national holidays

Only helps white collar people who would get national holidays off and likely already have time set aside on election day to vote, not the poor people mostly in service industries who see holidays as an extra oaycheck

require voting by all,

Pushes a regression to the mean. If the average voter, who is interested in politics, is this dumb, how dumb are the people who weren't interested to begin with and you are now burdening with a decision they didn't want to make?

end propoganda and echo chamber news pushing narratives, remove foreign interference,

I wish, but at that point we have a magical fact finding machine and we no longer need human input on politics at all

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u/Angry_Santo 1d ago

This is one of those people that would buy a 1/4 pounder over a 1/3 pounder because "4 is the bigger number"

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 1d ago

Better quality of life is directly linked to your health and mental health.

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u/Prudent_Block1669 1d ago

It should have been Bernie.

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u/Different-Island1871 1d ago

“I work 65 hours a week and don’t go to the doctor unless I think I’m dying. I don’t understand why I’m sad all the time and have all this chronic pain. It’s the Democrats and woke politics that’s to blame!”

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u/dlrich12 1d ago

Don’t forget. “Even though I’m tired all the time, I’m constantly irritable and I snap at my wife and kids all the time; if I can do it I don’t see why these weak ass lefties can’t do it too”

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u/No-Hyena4691 1d ago

There's so much money floating around the US, that everyone could have their necessities met. And you could still have billionaires, they'd just be slightly less rich. But, unfortunately, the US is filled with shitty people who are determined to make people suffer unnecessarily.

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u/Electric-Prune 1d ago

Conservatives are stupid as fuck

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u/GrindBastard1986 1d ago

Why is it those that pay for twitter have always a 💩 take?

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u/ASmallTownDJ 1d ago

That's the most unfortunate part of monetizing the verification system. Anytime someone with a blue check says something really stupid, I have to assume they're trying to make money as a professional troll.

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u/luvanurse101 1d ago

Wake up! America doesn’t want to invest in its citizens. It wants to keep us sick, isolated, and stupid. America is ok with allowing businesses to poison our food and water, and gaslighting us into believing that it’s healthy. Big business has always run things. Just look at by law, what every other first and second world nations’ use tax money to subsidize or fully finance healthcare, childcare, education etc. A majority of Americans are taxed just as much as these other countries but we get no benefits for it. We started out a slave country and never got rid of it. It’s in our blood.

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u/BackStageTech13 1d ago

Aaaaaaand this is why we have Donald Fucking Trump as president…again

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u/HendoRules 1d ago

I really really fucking hate people. The idea of people you don't know having a better quality of life somehow being a detriment to you should get you shunned from society. We need a revolution. This shit is getting old

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u/dzakadzak 1d ago

More money:

higher minimum wage

For less work:

32-hour workweek with full pay

With free* medical aid:

medicare for all

[*'free' services are paid for from taxes, which you are already paying]

How is any of these things a bad thing? What is going on?

your taxes should be going to education, healthcare, infrastructure and many other things, and yet you're forced to pay various companies for the chance at help, while your taxes are squandered.

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u/JehovasTh1ckness 21h ago

This guy could literally hand you happiness and a golden ticket to print money whenever you wanted and people would still hate him because a right wing podcast told them to.

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u/tinyp3n15 1d ago

What is SDOH alex?

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u/Azair_Blaidd 1d ago

MAHA?

Amanda Bynes Show intensifies

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u/Gth-Hudini 1d ago

The Man the us needs and deserves

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u/dlrich12 1d ago

I don’t know about deserves anymore. But needs, fully agree with

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u/jerry-jim-bob 1d ago

"Hi Americans, would you like to be able to afford to go to a dentist?"

"No"

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u/Gribitz37 1d ago

Let me guess. Michael is a CrossFit gym rat who sells Amway or Meleluca supplements, and thinks Bobby Parrish is a trusted source for health information.

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u/Smooth_Measurement67 1d ago

Bring back intellectual discrimination 🗣️✨

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u/Buxxley 1d ago

Just working from home literally increased the health markers in my bloodwork. I had a modest commute to work...about one hour each way. Not great...not the worst.

That's 2 hours a day. 10 hours a week. 40 hours a month. 12 full work weeks a year in my car not getting paid just to GET to the job I do.

Working from home essentially gave me 12 full weeks of my time back and wildly reduced stress levels caused by not being able to get to things that matter...like my kid's sporting meets. I was missing out as a Dad because I was off work physically...but geographically too far away to make it in time to be present. And I LIKE my job....it's not like being there was ALSO terrible. So I didn't even have the added stress of hating my job...I like what I do.

I changed almost nothing else and my doctor got my bloodwork back 4 months later and thought I'd been hitting the gym 5 days a week. Psychology, stress hormones, etc etc have a massive impact on the overall health of a person.

Just putting people in a situation that removes intense stress from their lives can often do more good than large doses of pharmaceutical medication. Being able to get 8 hours of sleep, having time to exercise daily, and getting to see your children for dinner every night is going to do a hell of a lot more for your health than even a softball sized Zoloft will.

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u/Vegetable-Phone-1743 1d ago

He stopped reading after 'Sanders'

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u/Effective-Fudge5985 1d ago

Bernie was wasted by being in American Politics. I love him so much.

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u/sinondod 1d ago

For as long as I’ve known about Bernie I’ve wanted him in the Whitehouse. A leader that America absolutely does not deserve.

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u/Testicleus 1d ago

Go hard, Bernie.

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u/ADriftingMind 1d ago

I will never not be upset we didn’t make this man president.

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u/Odd_Afternoon682 1d ago

We need to stop left vs right discourse. We’re all human. We’re all Americans. Let’s focus on the fact that the ultra wealthy have stolen America’s soul. We need to non-violently take it back. It’s always been rich vs poor

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u/mansock18 1d ago

Health insurance companies and oil companies don't respond to letter writing campaigns.

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u/Odd_Afternoon682 1d ago

Why do you assume letter writing? We need a nationwide walk-out on the company dime. Hit them where it hurts, their wallets

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u/mansock18 1d ago

Boycotts of the most egregious industries? A nationwide boycott of oil companies that have ensured car-dependence through lobbying on infrastructure bills (essentially meaning people can't usually get places without using oil and petroleum products) is impossible on a grand scale. Boycotting health insurance companies works precisely one time per year during open enrollment and asking people to forego a year of health insurance coverage, no matter how shitty, is a damn near impossible proposition. Both of these industries need to be stopped, and the slow choke doesn't work on a parasitic industry with regulatory capture.

We saw that Blue Cross responded much more quickly to more attention-grabbing actions.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 1d ago

That kind of peaceful talk makes you sound like a trans-gay-immigrant-rapist who reads books.

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u/lilymotherofmonsters 1d ago

Honestly voting booths should check if you subscribe to twitter glue and if you do, provide you with a crayon and a play mat in lieu of a ballot

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u/Mindless-Income3292 1d ago

Y’all be trying to speak logic to the irrational.

All the while these are the same types saying “facts don’t care about your feelings” cause it makes them feel good cause it makes you feel a certain kinda way. The solution? Don’t engage.

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u/smorosi 1d ago

If we could stop the Medicaid scams, everyone could have it. In 2020 COVID shut down, I qualified for Medicaid. They sent me to an eye doctor who gave me a cheap pair of eyeglasses. They billed Medicaid $500. America best eyeglasses charges 129 for two pairs

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u/WrongIntroductions 1d ago

No one wants to admit it, but at this point these people need the Luigi treatment.

Ignorance has become so prevalent that this country can no longer afford it. 70,000,000+ need 2 in the back of the head.

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u/Icemanx90x 1d ago

Health is a multifaceted issue, intertwined with social, economic, and environmental factors. Ignoring this complexity not only undermines the conversation but also perpetuates a narrow view that fails to address the real obstacles many face in achieving well-being. We need to shift the focus from mere survival to thriving as a society.

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u/Carl-99999 1d ago

Poor Bernie gets like 2 votes for this bill if it even gets up a vote

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u/DarthAstriuss 1d ago

We coulda had Bernie Sanders but the DNC and their superdelegates fucked all of us over.

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u/Shadowchaos1010 1d ago

Even if it wasn't related to health, why would you be upset about this?

  • Higher Minimum Wage - Greater ability to afford rent, food, and other things you need to live, more disposable income to funnel back into the economy, and generally greater financial security so people feel like they can afford to raise children
  • 32 Hour Workweek - More time off that you can spend with your family and so that you're less stressed so you have the mental bandwidth to raise children
  • Medicare for All - Not having to worry about your family being upended by some unforeseen medical emergency and/or bankrupted by said emergency
  • Paid Family Leave - Self explanatory, in the sense that it doesn't punish parents for wanting to have and raise children by ensuring they still get the money they need to raise said children while caring for them immediately after they're born.

Great Replacement Theory and Population Crisis alarmists have every reason to want these things because they're actual substantive policies that might make people go "Yes, it's time for kids."

Worried about white people no longer being more than 50% of the population (compared to the next highest percentage of 20, or something)? Then give young white people reasons to raise children in this country. Worried about not having enough workers in the next generation to replace this generation? Then give young people reasons to have more babies to replace them when they retire so the economy doesn't collapse.

Why bitch and moan and then screech at things that would actually solve the problem?

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u/otidaiz 1d ago

The question of now. Why do we let people like you vote?

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u/Lukinjoo 1d ago

This is just normal in EU

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u/wogsurfer 20h ago

Why are these people so willfully stupid?

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u/More_Weird1714 1d ago

Ironically, this is also why I'm not a 'choice' intersectional feminist. That's a form of social democracy and some of y'all are truly very stupid.

Remembering all the insane, inaccurate, completely left field takes really changes your perception on what constitutes a "valid" vote. If you're of fringe belief that raw milk will cure your son of Autism...you shouldn't be allowed to vote for the colors to paint a bedroom, much less on a national level.

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u/According_Judge781 1d ago

This is how 90% of redditors reply to comments; read first line, read last word, reply in stupid.

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u/Aggravating-Cup3735 1d ago

No no no‼️ Health is how fat your wallet is😳

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u/you_2_cool 1d ago

It's like taht one episode of Dan Vs where they are trying to make america dumber but it's real

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u/WearHot3394 1d ago

It can happen. Politicians in this . country are bought and paid for

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u/Old_Letterhead4264 1d ago

Conclusion: Bernie- great……….Michael- idiot

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u/Gimmethejooce 1d ago

Fox News would have you believe this is actually not good for you but breathing in wildfire smoke and Covid is

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u/DaisyHotCakes 1d ago

Why do people still use X when it has been proven to be mostly bots?? Y’all are arguing with a machine.

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u/TelevisionExpress616 1d ago

It’s not that I dont like the plan but it obviously has no chance of becoming a solid bill proposed to the Senate. Why not start with just Medicare for all?

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u/Last-News9937 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lol all of those things are completely related to health.

If I could have a 4 day work week with full 40 hour pay my mental health would be astronomically better than it is right now after literally 4.5 straight years of working from home post COVID getting mentally and emotionally raped senseless 5 days a week in my own house.

Again I'm just talking about the time since COVID. I've worked full time minimum 40 hours a week for the past 22 years. Several of those years while going to school full time. At one point I worked 60+ hours a week while going to school full time, at another I was working two 32 hour jobs at the same time and going to school full time. But I'm just including the 10 years I've worked in my current job which has utterly destroyed my mental health, my personality, my physical and my emotional health.

For reference I'm at work right now. I had one day off. Christmas. Next up is New Year's Day and they tried to get me to come in and not just come in but specifically asked me they're expecting anyone who works on NYD to bust their ass. LOLOLOL, fuck no.

Not including weekends. But is my 60 hours off (12 PM Friday to 12 AM Monday) really even any time off? It is not.

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u/AccomplishedFan8690 1d ago

They don’t believe in mental health. My dad thinks people with depression are pussies

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u/duranium_dog 1d ago

“Global War on Disease” would get more support

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u/Shadyshade84 1d ago

1) More money to do healthy things with 2) More time to do them in 3) If you need the connection of health care to health explained, you need more help than I can give you 4) In addition to (2), prevents stress at home and in general, not only promoting mental health but, for something you can give the bosses to make it easier for them to take, helping to prevent burnout and "stress sickness," so companies can save the money they'd need to spend finding and training a replacement (or, more likely, not bothering and just giving the workload to other employees, causing the problem to spread until all the work is being done by two people, both of which are one loud noise away from turning their managers into confetti...)

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u/wireframed_kb 1d ago

Mental health is also health, and I think many people would have better mental health with a 32 hour work week than 40.

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u/Stavibear 1d ago

How does the 32 hour work week affect hourly paid workers? Would we just increase their hourly pay?

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u/countrygirlmaryb 1d ago

Can we just put Bernie in the Oval Office, lock the front and back doors, and NOT let dipshit and dumbershit in come Jan??

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u/Full-Examination1690 1d ago

It's not the disgusting people doing and saying awful, ignorant, harmful things that I hate anymore. They are lowly beasts operating on instinct. The people I hate are the ones that treat them like they aren't destroying our society and act like their thoughts and opinions have merit that should be treated as a normal occurrence. They don't care what you say, the truth doesn't matter, and most importantly they don't see YOU as human. Then you normalize that behavior by allowing it in your society. All that tolerance and your society still becomes an intolerable society. Fuck anybody that tolerates that kind of behavior.

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u/chickenshwarmas 1d ago

Why does OP still use that neo Nazi site though when there’s plenty of alternatives?

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u/McSmokeyDaPot 1d ago

A 32 hour work week would do wonders to my mental health

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u/B_Da_May 1d ago

Wrong. Health can only be achieved through corporate tax cuts and the Bible.

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u/Smooth-Discount6807 1d ago

it’s because it’s never about “health” for them. it’s about killing off the undesirables. the amount of RFK fan boys i’ve seen who openly root for the death of fat people is disgusting. “health” is just a cover for their fascist fantasies of blood and death

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u/Mr_Ignorant 1d ago

What exactly was Michael expecting? A free gym membership?

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u/StuckInsideYourWalls 1d ago

Man the last time I was truly happy was with a 4 day work week (was still doing 10 hr days, but that 3 day weekend EVERY weekend changes your fucking life). I think I will truly remain pissed off for eternity until I get that back.

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u/22raweggsinmyass 1d ago

The right is stupid

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u/DrTommyNotMD 1d ago

Health is not letting elderly run the country.

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u/WetPungent-Shart666 1d ago

Poor micheal has Trump Narcissism brain virus.

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u/Therealpbsquid 1d ago

That’s great if you have a normal 9-5. But shift work doesn’t work like that. 8 on 6 off and 10 hour shifts

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u/Shnazzyone 1d ago

Wow, be cool if this bill wasn't going to end up shelved until voted down next year. If only people actually got out to vote last election.

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u/RedditCEOSucks_ 1d ago

None of those republicans care about helping, just trying to rip apart the dems.

even if everyone of the left disappears the republicans would just hate and fight someone else. just shity people who do nothing for a healthy society.

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u/__ma11en69er__ 1d ago

I feel sorry for Michael's dog!

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u/Ok-Coyote-7516 1d ago

I am rightleaning and support all of these - except Medicare for all. Im more in favor of a Medicare for America style system where you can keep private insurance if you want but there is a public option available to everyone.

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u/EggnogThot 1d ago

How is this clever

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u/Ceylon0624 1d ago

Wait a sec, that's an alphabet person. Real question - why do we let they/them vote.

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u/gerblnutz 1d ago

But how will Leon live forever as a mechaoverlord if he doesn't have trillions to make his ironman suit?

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u/GodHatesMaga 1d ago

Bernie Sanders’ proposal is a solution to the failures of the health insurance system in America. It has no chance in our current implementation of government.

Violent revolution will continue as long as peaceful revolution is impossible. 

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u/S20ACE-_- 1d ago

Im tired of the people in this country.

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u/DoubleDipCrunch 1d ago

why are YOU stilll on twitter?

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u/MightyOleAmerika 1d ago

American dream indeed.

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u/JohnTheMod 1d ago

I still believe that if I skipped that rally of his during the ‘16 primary, he’d be President. I’ve seen two Presidential candidates in person (Hillary during the ‘08 primary and Bernie in ‘16), and both of them lost. Maybe I’m a jinx. Maybe I should’ve gone to a Trump rally instead.

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u/Diknak 1d ago

If you think having a living wage isn't related to health, you are a fucking idiot.

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u/Artistic_Ear_664 1d ago

Still mad they Hilaried him 🫡

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u/Salty_Talk_2870 1d ago

Wish this a-hole would disappear! Going forward, TERM LIMITS so we don't have these demented fossils lining their pockets and contributung nothing to society

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u/Hungry-Incident-5860 1d ago

Man I would love to work 32 hours a week instead of 60 while only getting paid for 40. That might make me a communist liberal or whatever, but I could give a shit.

Anyone who loves working overtime without getting overtime pay is a fool. That’s not my subjective opinion, that’s an objective fact.

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u/d_e_l_u_x_e 1d ago

“But how will we pay for it?!”

After 20 years of funding two wars and a 900 billion yearly pentagon budget. Bails out for the banks and auto industry and then forgiven PPP loans to corporate America.

There’s always money for those things that help the big businesses but never enough left to help the people who live and work for them.

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u/athiestchzhouse 1d ago

Mind blowing. We could cut our military budget in half without affecting salary/benefits, and still we would be light years ahead of the rest of the worlds military combined

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u/Grinzy 1d ago

Incompetent nincompoops. The lot of them. How did we let this happen?

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u/Blaze666x 1d ago

"Higher minimum wage" Better mental health and better potential to afford Healthcare without it potentially ruining your life. "32 hour work week" and "more paid time off" Better mental health "Medicare for all" Well that's self explanatory

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u/Calvesguy_1 1d ago

Still gotta do something for all the commuting.

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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago

It really is underestimated as to how many of the MAGATs problems are influenced and birthed by the fact that they genuinely can't fucking read.

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u/Fine_Yam2106 1d ago

Off topic of health care specifically but one thing I see all over that I can’t understand, and maybe someone here can explain a little bit, but how is it feasible to change our work culture to 32 hour weeks and not change the pay?

In the AEC industry, we bill our time. If we work 8 less hours, we bill 8 less hours. I suppose the argument would be that the hourly rate just increases, but the implications of this would be enormous. Not every solvent company can afford to change their business model to follow suit and maintain their current client base. Or can they? I legitimately don’t know, just my basic math for service based industries doesn’t add up.

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u/sadxcowgirl999 1d ago

I LOVE BERNIE !!!

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u/Vox_Mortem 1d ago

We could have had this man as president instead of Trump. Instead the Democratic party worked behind the scenes to suppress support for Sanders and promote Clinton as their preferred candidate. The Democrats killed Bernie's bid for presidency.

I say this as someone who most people would consider 'the radical left'. The Democrats are complicit in this one though, which is why we need to clean our own house.,

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u/BeeDry2896 1d ago

Michael, oh Michael … lol 😂 think before you tweet

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u/DestinyJackolz 1d ago

I personally would rather work 4 10 hour days, I think that’s far more reasonable and companies would be more willing to do that over 32hr weeks.

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u/OscarTheGrouchsCan 1d ago

I become more convinced every day the world ended the day Trump ride down that elevator.

And this is Hell. It just LOOKS familiar

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u/Binx_Thackery 1d ago

Sterilize Michael.

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u/Humans_Suck- 1d ago

I will never understand why democrats wanted a Trump presidency more than they wanted a Sanders one.

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u/Some_Syrup_7388 1d ago

Because Sanders is at least a Socialist and at most an actual communist

Someone with belives like that would work against the interest of the DNC donors, when the capital class has to choose betwen a socialist and a fascist they will always chose fascist, because fascist is not a threat to their interest

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u/Cordially_Bryan 1d ago

FDR was the president that concentration camped Japanese Americans.

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u/Lazy-Employ-9674 1d ago

This was common practice at the time. My great grandfather was born in Germany and imprisoned in London during the second world war.

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u/chrisbeck1313 1d ago

I disagree with much of what Bernie proposes, but at least he is honest. Also, it’s really hard to argue against a higher minimum wage when I paid 6 dollars for a cucumber yesterday.