r/benshapiro • u/Birdflower99 • Aug 23 '22

We asked my daughter’s middle school to remove the LGBT flag from her classrooms because it goes against our values and they’re pushing back. Discussion/Debate

They said that displaying the lgbt flag aligns with their inclusivity values and being asked to remove the flag goes against their anti-discrimination policy. ( which I haven’t read). Has anyone challenged their schools to remove this flag? What has been your experience?

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u/STEP3386 Aug 23 '22

Has nothing to do with being a victim, its simply just pointing out their own hypocrisy. If religion has no place in school (which I agree with) neither does politics and that flag is nothing, but bad politics.

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u/Chubby_Chestnut Aug 23 '22

It's funny because you fuck nuts are the ones who made it political because it hurt your feelings.

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u/STEP3386 Aug 23 '22

No last I checked you guys are the ones that get upset when we tell you the fact that there are only two genders and only a man can be a man and a woman can only be a woman.

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u/Chubby_Chestnut Aug 23 '22

It's funny because that's literally why there trans and cis as terminology denoting for gender and y'all reject actual scientific evidence when it hurts your feelings. Just like in this thread. When presented with scientific literature one of you dumb fucks said YoUr FacTs aRe dUmB. 🤣🤣 Not to mention all the conspiracy theories you drench yourselves in. None of which any of you can provide a shred of evidence for. There's a reason conservatives are branded as fucking stupid... Because you are. Education is in direct opposition to conservative ideology.

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u/STEP3386 Aug 23 '22

Again its a fact that there are only two genders theres no such thing as transgender its a biological fact. If you think you are transgender you have a mental condition called gender dysphoria and need to seek professional help.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

Yeah, and what professional help is the most helpful to individuals with gender dysphoria? Hint: it rhymes with schmender-schmaffirming schmare

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u/Chubby_Chestnut Aug 23 '22

LMFAO here again we have a dumb conservatives rejecting science because you're butthurt. Trans is a known medical terminology accepted by the actual scientific community. What you're referring to is the butt hurt emotional uneducated conservative community. Exhibit A, you.

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u/STEP3386 Aug 23 '22

Again no its a biological fact that there are only two genders and all real scientists and doctors understand this. Especially since it has always been that way and always will be that way.

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u/Chubby_Chestnut Aug 23 '22

Post some actual scientific unbiased literature that aren't from paper mills. I'll wait.... And wait.... And wait...

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u/STEP3386 Aug 23 '22

Males have an xy chromosome females have an xx. This is basic common knowledge.

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u/Chubby_Chestnut Aug 23 '22

Congratulations you have basic common knowledge. Now post actual scientific literature where the medical community doesn't recognize trans people. I'm still waiting.

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u/Eagle_Kebab Aug 23 '22

And I'm sure you're all caught up on how those chromosomes affect our bodies, right?

Surely you can tell us all about sdnPOA amd its role in gender identity.

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u/Malachite_Cookie Aug 23 '22

Sex is not binary

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=sex+is+not+binary&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1655162847996&u=%23p%3DuwC_u84AJFcJ

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=sex+is+not+binary&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1655162860962&u=%23p%3D7-qi0iXRPZ4J

https://massivesci.com/articles/sex-gender-intersex-transgender-identity-discrimination-title-ix/

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2020/06/15/the-myth-of-biological-sex/?sh=5cc6330476b9

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/why-sex-and-gender-arent-binary-issues/a-57062033

Sex ≠ gender

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=gender+and+sex+difference&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1655163071472&u=%23p%3DQkzSATP3ukcJ

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=gender+and+sex+difference&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1655163112109&u=%23p%3D3i-7scBRjJ0J

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction#

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363

Puberty blockers are safe and reversible

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/puberty-blockers#:~:text=Are%20they%20reversible%3F,of%20breasts%20and%20facial%20hair.

https://www.gendergp.com/are-puberty-blockers-reversible/

https://pharma.nridigital.com/pharma_sept20/puberty_blockers_transgender_children

https://assets2.hrc.org/files/documents/SupportingCaringforTransChildren.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453020301402?via%3Dihub

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306453015000943

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/26895269.2020.1747768

Transitioning works

https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-shows-transgender-people-who-receive-gender-affirming-surgery-are-significantly-less-likely-to-experience-psychological-distress-or-suicidal-ideation/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/12/14/gender-affirming-care-linked-to-less-depression-lower-suicide-risk-for-trans-youth/?sh=406cf7fd5d25

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5925023/#:~:text=Conclusions,group%20shows%20the%20greatest%20vulnerability.

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19473181/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19473181/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19473181/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19473181/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25201798/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223813/

https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)32422-X/fulltext

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-014-0453-5

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-009-9551-1

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-014-0300-8

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9031580/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1054139X1630146X

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1054139X20300276

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515336171

Gender isn’t binary

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

https://slate.com/technology/2018/11/sex-binary-gender-neither-exist.html

http://www.scientistafoundation.com/lifestyle-blog/why-sex-isnt-binary

Transgender brains have more in common than their gender than their AGAB

https://www.google.com/amp/s/health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/amp/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7139786/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01237-z

Chromosomes don’t necessarily determine genitals

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/46xx-testicular-disorder-of-sex-development/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/xx-male

https://www.medicinenet.com/xx_male_syndrome/definition.htm

It isn’t a choice

https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/being-transgender-isnt-a-choice-3b03c5b197ba

https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politics/check-the-science-being-trans-is-not-a-choice/69726/

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/truth-about-trans

After HRT, it’s more or less even

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/can-hormone-therapy-cause-muscle-loss-20090929106

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/15/865

Trans people aren’t new

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

https://www.lgbthealth.org.uk/lgbt-health-blog/transgenderism-in-ancient-cultures/

https://www.hrc.org/resources/seven-things-about-transgender-people-that-you-didnt-know

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/

These organisations disagree with you

American psychological association

American medical association

American psychoanalytic association

American Academy of Pediatrics

Human Rights Campaign

American College of Osteopathic Paediatricians

Royal College of Psychiatrists

United Nations

United Kingdom’s NHS

American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychology

American Academy of Dermatology

American Academy of Family Physicians

American Academy of Pediatrics

American Academy of Physician Assistants

American College Health Association

American College of Nurse-Midwives

American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists

American College of Physicians

American Counseling Association

American Heart Association

American Medical Association

American Medical Students Association

American Nurses Association

American Osteopathic Association

American Psychiatric Association

American Psychological Association

American Public Health Association

American Society of Plastic Surgeons

Endocrine Society

GLMA

National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women’s Health

National Association of Social Workers

National Commission on Correctional Healthcare

Paediatric Endocrine Society

Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine

World Medical Association

World Professional Association for Transgender Health

World Health Organisation

Stanford Medical

American Paediatric Association

National Institutes of Health

Canadian Institutes of Health Research

Scientific American

And many, many more

Try again, bigot

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u/Eagle_Kebab Aug 23 '22

Citation required.

(Something beyond 8th grade biology)

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u/NimishApte Aug 23 '22

Actually, there is a thing called transgender. It's science. You just have to look beyond the 19th century.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '22

How is a flag discriminating?

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u/Malachite_Cookie Aug 23 '22

The flag is a representation of the struggle to survive, how is that political? People exist, het over it