DeSantis V. Trump is heating up, who will you support?

[u/Bankman220]

Over the last year we've seen very small flare ups between the two- Trump made a comment about desantis, desantis punches back by saying his biggest regret was allowing the Trump admin to pass the lockdowns.

EDIT: It's worse than I remember, Trump literally called Desantis gutless for refusing to disclose his vaccination status.

Trump has said many times that he'd beat desantis.

And of course, believe it or not, there's many reports that Trump is privately very upset about Desantis' popularity and that he wouldn't be where he is now if it weren't for Trumps endorsement.

Most interesting though is that during Trumps rally in Arizona the other day, Fox News made no mention of it at all, and instead interviewed Desantis, calling him "the man of the hour" during Trumps rally.

He's very clearly the second in line, and once Trump sees the writing on the wall, his ego will not allow him to remain passive. This is the man that threw his own daughter under the bus.

I think it's almost a guarantee that Desantis will run, man's been throwing more red meat on the grill than a local bbq.

The question then is, who will you support? If it turns into a Trump Desantis slug fest, who will you choose?

[u/cliffotn]

It’s not a problem, your observation about how he was before is valid. But. I winced when he said “Mexico isn’t sending their best people, yada, yada”. And qualified it only with “I’m sure there are good people in there too”. As it hit the news I wanted to duck and cover. He just handed them a full buffet of years of “YOU ARE RACIST”.

So going in I many thought he’d be a maverick, and he was. But dude, we NEVER had a clue his personality, inability to qualify statements, and anger would be used SO EFFECTIVELY by the MSM, Hollywood, and big tech. So now we know they can and will torch the ground of the next GOP candidate. That’s a fact. Do we want a candidates who can give valid rebuttals, stay calm, qualify the hell out of statement - give the left FAR LESS easy fodder, and doesn’t piss odd the entire left and half the middle just by being seen?

It’s not a bad precedent or giving up, it’s just recognizing Trump didn’t work out on today’s world. We need a fighter who’ll be making shit happen - for certain. But one who the middle can listen to and feel he’s “Presidential”.

[u/Stonewise → u/cliffotn]

What you’re not recognizing is most people in the middle don’t give a shit. That’s why they’re in the middle. They’re not paying attention to what Republican did this or what Democrat said that, they vote according to the economy, gas prices, their grocery, electric, and water bills. Trumps a proven President, we’ve never seen DeSantis in a major campaign, there’s no telling what could come out true or false that could ruin him. People know what they’re getting with Trump.

[u/cliffotn → u/Stonewise]

I disagree. They give a shit, they usually just don’t subscribe to a party, and don’t closely follow a party’s thought of the day.

And I’d they don’t give a shit they’re more easy to direct to dislike a candidate - so we need a candidate who has Trump’s fight but is likable. The MSM didn’t make Joe Moderate dislike Trump - Trump made Joe Moderate dislike Trump. They helped a LOT, but again he was shit at fighting back against fake news and making his case. DeSa it’s is awesome at making his case and fighting fake news. Which bodes will for snagging moderates who don’t take the MSM’s word as God. And given the all low time low trust in the media, they’re absolutely out there.

Bottom line DeSantis has Trump’s policy options with a TON of fight. He just fights far more effectively, and is 100x more personally likable.

If we had DeSantis instead of Jeb in 2015, I seriously feel DeSantis would be in his second term.

[u/Stonewise → u/cliffotn]

Non of that’s going to matter if the left can completely split the Republican base between 2 VERY similar candidates. Let’s face it, policy hasn’t even entered the conversation between the 2, they’ve made Trump “toxic” even in his own base and that’s exactly what will happen again and again and again if it works. If they know that they can completely destroy Trump to where his own base is looking for someone else they will not stop there.

[u/cliffotn → u/Stonewise]

Thing is I don’t think DeSantis will run if Trump runs and especially if Trump still has lots of support. He’s way too savvy to get caught in such a tangle, regardless of the outcome he’ll get muddied up, piss off Trump loyalists, and the right has zero desire for an Ex Pres and a kick ass governor to duke anything out.