r/benshapiro Jul 29 '22

DeSantis V. Trump is heating up, who will you support? Discussion/Debate

Over the last year we've seen very small flare ups between the two- Trump made a comment about desantis, desantis punches back by saying his biggest regret was allowing the Trump admin to pass the lockdowns.

EDIT: It's worse than I remember, Trump literally called Desantis gutless for refusing to disclose his vaccination status.

Trump has said many times that he'd beat desantis.

And of course, believe it or not, there's many reports that Trump is privately very upset about Desantis' popularity and that he wouldn't be where he is now if it weren't for Trumps endorsement.

Most interesting though is that during Trumps rally in Arizona the other day, Fox News made no mention of it at all, and instead interviewed Desantis, calling him "the man of the hour" during Trumps rally.

He's very clearly the second in line, and once Trump sees the writing on the wall, his ego will not allow him to remain passive. This is the man that threw his own daughter under the bus.

I think it's almost a guarantee that Desantis will run, man's been throwing more red meat on the grill than a local bbq.

The question then is, who will you support? If it turns into a Trump Desantis slug fest, who will you choose?

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u/Shooter_McGavin27 Jul 29 '22

This is just an attempt to conjure up some made up battle between the GOP’s top two leaders, nothing more. This is the liberals wet dream because their only hope is an inner-battle between the two.

There is no simmering feud between Trump and DeSantis. There is no dislike for each between them. The media will go out of their way to make it sound like there’s in-fighting. There isn’t. Don’t take the bait.

There is no other candidate, including DeSantis, that could beat Trump right now. Period. I think both of them fully understand this. They both are aware that any feud would do nothing but hurt them both and take votes away from each other and only help the liberals. The media would latch onto it and have a field day, which is why they’re trying to create some fake feud between them now.

I see no point for DeSantis to run for President now and he has little benefit to run as VP. Trump will trounce any other candidates in the primary if he chooses to run again. DeSantis still has another term in Florida. I think he should stay there. It would be better for him and the GOP. Have Trump take back the White House in 2024 and then pave the way for DeSantis in 2028 and 2032. This gives much more longevity than if he ran now.

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u/Bankman220 Jul 29 '22

Gonna be honest with you, this cope comes up every time the subject is brought up in any conservative sub and it's laughable everytime. Doesn't matter whether you like trump or not, we know he's a narcissist.

You telling me that Trump just happens to say "I'd beat Desantis" every other month? You telling me Trump didn't care when desantis said "my biggest regret was letting the trump admin push lockdowns?"

Or that Fox keeps airing poll numbers between them?

DeSantis is everything trump is but younger, fitter, and more intelligent. Trump absolutely hates him. But don't believe me, time will reveal it all.

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u/Shooter_McGavin27 Jul 29 '22

You’re obviously bias so your opinions are a bit skewed. Regardless, they’re your opinions and you’re entitled to them. I, and many others though, disagree with them. I’ve never heard Trump speak negatively of DeSantis and visa versa. Trump isn’t wrong if he says he beats DeSantis in polls and DeSantis isn’t wrong by saying Trump allowing lockdowns was a mistake. Even Trump has said they were a mistake. However, Trump could not have prevented states from locking down. Just because (or if) they’ve said these things, that’s absolutely no indication of one hating the other. It’s just a sad attempt at creating a divide where there is none.

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u/Bankman220 Jul 29 '22

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/590071-trump-desantis-tensions-ratchet-up/amp/

All due respect, since you've been respectful, I think you just need to research the topic a bit.

He literally called Desantis gutless for refusing to disclose his vaccination status.

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u/Shooter_McGavin27 Jul 29 '22

This article is a big nothing-burger filled with assumptions and “people behind the scenes” and 3rd party guesses. Again, it’s media trying to turn out a feud between the two.

Edit: And where did Trump call him “gutless” for not disclosing his vaccine status?

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u/Bankman220 Jul 29 '22

Desantis refuses to disclose his vaccine status. Literally a day later, Trump says that politicians who refuse to disclose their vaccine status are gutless. Days later, Desantis says that his biggest regret is allowing the Trump admin to enforce lockdowns.

Do you seriously believe that's a coincidence?

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u/robrog8999 Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22

As Elon said, it’s time for Trump to move on. I was a huge supporter of him and never thought I’d consider anyone else but the country is tired of division and polarization and of course the Left is responsible for 95% of it and will forever refuse to acknowledge that Trump was a great leader and Biden was in fact the reckless one but with that said…. The left will continue fighting him if he had the White House rather than working with him and we can’t take anymore of that.

But more importantly, it’s about WINNING the presidency for republicans. That’s the most crucial element. And I don’t have faith that trump can do it. In order to stand a chance at winning it from democrats, we NEED the independent voters and the only ones voting for Trump will be the ultra MAGA camp. That’s not enough. They make up such a small minority of the overall electorate and independents ultimately decide outcomes really. DeSantis is far more likely to get more independents than Trump. He is all-around a safer bet. If republicans are smart then they will go with the candidate with the higher likelihood. It isn’t about putting trump in the White House. It is about removing Biden/democrats from it. And ultimately getting a strong Republican in. Trump could come back in a few years and try again potentially. But he isn’t getting 2024.

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u/Shooter_McGavin27 Jul 29 '22

Come back in a few years??? Trump is in his late 70’s. This is his last go around. He will hand it off to someone else after this.

I do agree that in a side by side, DeSantis gets more independent voters than Trump, however, Bidens term has really shown people the differences.

I’m so tired of the narrative that Trump is divisive . This is the media talking point. I’m also sick of people saying that causes him to lose votes. It doesn’t and it didn’t. Trump, as an incumbent, GAINED 10 million voters in 2020. For a candidate that’s supposedly racist, divisive, etc, that doesn’t happen. That 10 million is already in addition to being the most votes in history for an incumbent. Saying he loses votes is just flat out incorrect. People may bitch and moan out in the open but when they get in the voting booth, it’s a different story. That was proven in 2016 and 2020.

If you’re a fan, go off how the country was and the policies. All the other stuff doesn’t matter and just detracts you from what really matters. The liberals are going to battle anyone who’s in office for the conservatives. It doesn’t matter. They aren’t interested in working with anyone, and that includes DeSantis.

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u/Psychedelic-Concord Sep 02 '23

I can't believe in commenting on this random ancient thread but how were you so wrong lmao