r/benshapiro • u/ExplanationRadiant21 • Nov 12 '23
Is there a moral equivalance between hamas and isreal? Poll
I think the results are going to be interesting. Obviously the answer is no, but
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u/JamesBummed Nov 12 '23 edited Nov 12 '23
Here's my dumb, oversimplified analogy: a maniac attacks me out of nowhere, he gives me a small bruise but I am more competent physically and I subdue him, severely injuring him in the process. The maniac claims his life is miserable because of me and admits he would have killed me and defiled my body only if he was capable of. Should I only have returned the same small bruise and stopped there, because I have the physical advantage therefore it's not a fair competition?
Edit: By the way, this is also my answer to the "Palestinians had their lands taken away and oppressed for decades, are you surprised they retaliated in a violent way?" people-- Are you surprised people, who had their innocent civilians savagely attacked, who also mind you are way superior militaristically than their attackers, would retaliate out of vengeance and survival?
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u/FunDip2 Nov 13 '23
When you can show me Israel killing totally innocent people by the hundreds at a music festival, burning babies alive just to burn babies alive, shooting whole families like Mexican cartel executioners, murdering and cutting up a pregnant woman like a sick serial killer, raping children and teenagers in front of their parents then murdering them .......Then maybe you can convince me. But we both know that's not the case.
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u/Dyscopia1913 Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
Zionist would prefer an enemy as an excuse for ethnic cleansing. The value of Palastinian statehood is equated with Hamas. Jews, Muslims, Christians lived there for centuries.
Edit: I'll add the attack against journalism and freedom of the press is all you need to understand how Zionists and corporate America intends to fragment the truth.
Edit 2: I'm inclined to believe that death to Hamas is a principle in the media. However, zionism just like the Hamas political party is an ideology, not human life. They can be conviced.
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u/Jollem- Nov 12 '23
They both will murder children in revenge killings. The IDF kills about one child every 10 minutes
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u/FunDip2 Nov 13 '23
That is not true whatsoever. Nice try though.
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u/yuyutherebel Nov 13 '23
Its actually objectively true.
Israel has killed around 4500 Palestinian children since October 7th, and that is a conservative estimate since many more are missing and cant be accounted for trapped under rubble.
the war has been going on for 50,400 minutes.
50,400/4500=11.2. So 1 dead child every 11.2 minutes, and thats a conservative estimate.
Remember, facts don't care about your feelings.
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u/AbleismIsSatan Nov 13 '23
Lie.
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u/Jollem- Nov 13 '23
Prove me wrong
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u/AbleismIsSatan Nov 13 '23
Burden of proof falls on you.
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u/Jollem- Nov 13 '23
It appears you bear the burden of willful ignorance
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u/Defnotdiscordkitten Nov 12 '23
Isreal is committing genocide Palestine is defending itself
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u/ExplanationRadiant21 Nov 13 '23
By slaughtering thousands of people? Isreal is in a war that palestine started
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u/FunDip2 Nov 13 '23
And you are a terrorist sympathizer wasting your time trying to spread Hamas propaganda. I'm convinced you must be a stupid college kid that has no life experience whatsoever. Go get your shine box.
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u/WhippersnapperUT99 Liberal Conservative Nov 14 '23
Moral equivalence?
The Israelis stand for the values of Western Civilization - secular government, rule of law, protection of individual rights, freedom, liberty, democracy, and the advancement of science and technology. Israel is not perfect and people can debate whether people should have more freedom to own guns and more economic freedom, but overall it stands for and upholds the basic values of Western Civilization.
In contrast Hamas and whatever society the Palestinians would found stands for primitive religious mystic barbarism, primitive mystic religious barbarism, dictatorship, and oppression of women and the individual by the state and society in the name of a horrible, destructive, religion that manifests itself as evil when taken seriously and put into practice.
If it could be succinctly summed up, you could say that Jewish culture and philosophy produced the likes of Albert Einstein, the 3D printed heart, and the advancement of science and technology. In contrast, modern Islam's claim to fame is Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haraam, Al Shabaab, the Taliban, the Charlie Hebdo attacks, a fatwa against Salman Rushdie, airplane hijackings, PLO bombings, modern day monarchies, girls in Afghanistan being banned from obtaining education, women oppressed in Iran brutalized by "morality police", throwing homosexuals off of rooftops, and stoning raped women.
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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '23
6 people said yes. Brain dead dude