r/belarus • u/balticsealover • Nov 18 '24
Dear Belarusians, Is it really true? Пытанне / Question
I mean does it really happen in real life? Have you ever heard or experienced those kind of things in school? It could be a trivial question but I’m just really curious.
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u/xiayu_xiaxue Nov 18 '24
No, that's a lie. If a teacher hits a child, he can be fired if the parents complain. But I know teachers who hit children and nothing was done to them for it. Children can't be hit at home either
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u/Eliarian Nov 18 '24
Back in 2000s it was rare yet still somewhat tolerable, now I'd say it's unimaginable and completely unacceptable, the teacher doing that will be punished. If we're talking about schools, that is. Seeing someone beat their child at home is not that uncommon.
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u/Sp0tlighter Belarus Nov 18 '24
This is not unheard of if you grew up before the 2000s. I have seen teachers grabbing children by the ear and being an absolute pile of shit to regular children. This was during the 90s though, quite possible that it has gotten less common. Obviously noone got punished for it back then unless it made national news.
Being belted and slapped at home was not something that was explicitly forbidden either back then, plenty of memes about getting hit by drunk dads didn't come out of nowhere.
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
Abkhazia and South Ossetia are Georgia, get ur map right.
And Crimea is Ukraine.
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u/balticsealover Nov 18 '24
I agree with you. this map is not correct to technical borders. but it is like that just for indicating practical status of each areas.
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
It ain’t a state. It is my homeland under Russian occupation. Their legislature is one of Georgia.
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u/bmalek Nov 18 '24
But the reality is that they are under Russian control, so Russian law applies. Maps are intended to reflect reality, not wishes.
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u/Kras_08 Bulgaria Nov 18 '24
But Georgian law doesn't apply there, does it? And this post is for law, not de jure borders.
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u/alplo Nov 18 '24
It doesn’t mean that Georgian or Ukrainian law is applied there. It would be strange to say that corporal punishment is prohibited there while in fact it is not, even if the regime is illegal
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u/janokkkkk Nov 18 '24
i think this is from wikipedia and maybe it was just trying to show de facto situation or sth? idk correct me if im wrong
edit: autocomplete decided to add a random word
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u/Lumpy-Middle-7311 Nov 18 '24
Which law is now used there? If you make Crimea Ukraine, also make Taiwan a part of China, while it obviously has its own laws. Or let maps show real situation.
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u/doko_kanada Nov 18 '24
Cool. But how is it related to this map?
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
As map is wrong, duh.
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u/doko_kanada Nov 18 '24
So the map is wrong on which legal system is applied in which region?
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
It shouldn’t show Russian narrative of the political borders, as that’s not legit legal system. Is that hard to grasp?
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u/_JPPAS_ Nov 19 '24
it would be misinformation to say that it's under "corporal punishment banned altogether" when it is in fact not
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u/Comprehensive_Law662 Nov 18 '24 edited Nov 18 '24
"A country doesn't exist because I don't like it." "Territory was not annexed because I don't like it."
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
It is more of kicking out and genociding the absolute majority of the regions indigenous Georgians for the sake of neo colonialist tendencies of Imperialist state. And being recognized by Nauru, Venezuela and Syria, the prime examples of “prosperous countries”
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u/Comprehensive_Law662 Nov 18 '24
Wow. And what? Those countries still exist.
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
lol, ok bot, so does the neverland and Narnia.
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u/Comprehensive_Law662 Nov 18 '24
Yeah, I guess I don't really need to say anything. You truly behave like a child. You are already lost.
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
Let’s see how u gonna talk when u are refugee and lose your home with half of your family, your identity and ancestoral belongings along with culture being erased. And you have audacity to call me a child while not having any insight or decent arguments. Only thing I regret is u didn’t get swallowed.
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u/JucheMystic Nov 20 '24
Wanting independence from a country that oppresses your ethnicity is good only when Ukraine does it.
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u/ClassicShoe9336 Nov 19 '24
Ask Ossetians and Abkhazians if they are part of Georgia, and also ask the Crimeans if they are part of Ukraine - the answer to these questions will be negative.
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 19 '24
lol, Crimeans are pro Ukrainian. Abkhazians and Ossetian’s were minority living in majority Georgian regions. If you ask Abkhazian populous, majority is pro Georgian
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u/Potential-Register-1 Nov 18 '24
Go to Crimea and say that
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
Come to Georgia and tell us the opposite.
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u/random_user3398 Ukraine Nov 18 '24
I will just add that Transnistria is Moldova. And independent Ichekeria.
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u/Lumpy-Middle-7311 Nov 18 '24
If you want to divide other countries, be ready you gonna get divided too
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u/random_user3398 Ukraine Nov 18 '24
Ukraine officially recognizing Ichkeria as a sovereign nation since 2022. So I think that would just be nice.
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u/Belicorne Беларусь Nov 18 '24
This is why I love Georgians ❤️
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
In service of fighting Russians occupants since 1992 And 2014 in Ukraine. Guess who trained up Azov battalion. Even defense of Mariupol was planned by 2 Georgians, who sadly died in the battle. We shall never bend our knee to Moskals🐺
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u/Belicorne Беларусь Nov 18 '24
Hell yes. I admire you guys. I wish you freedom from ruzzia in all forms - especially those sneaky ones that managed to get into your government. Ruzzia will be defeated
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u/No-Nobody-3384 Nov 18 '24
Thanks. Tbh,regarding our government, calling them pro Russian is reductionism, as they obviously are not openly pro Russian, nor they do care about Russia that much, merely want to have power and continue their corrupted schemes. It is matter of oligarchy and clan based system, than any geopolitical affiliation.
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u/Gatholig-Criostach Ireland/United Kingdom 🇮🇪🇬🇧 Nov 18 '24
The Indigenous Crimean’s the Crimean Tatars and the Ukrainian people there would agree with the statement, only the Moskals that were supplanted there after the russian orchestrated ethnic cleansing of the Crimean Tatars would disagree.
And you don’t ask a squatter or a home invader for their opinion even if they outnumber those who got their home broken into.
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u/HimmiX Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24
During World War II the nearly 300 000 Tatars occupying the Crimean Mountains and certain districts in the northern steppes providing much assistance to German Forces, killing from 70000 to 120000 Russians including war prisoners. ©
Yeah, totally innocent scums.
Edit: Special for reddit's clowns moaning "Russian propaganda". - Its direct quote from CIA Ukraine report 1957. It was recently declassified and is freely available.
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u/jurastm Nov 18 '24
Even though we have completely established dictatorship and human rights disregard this map does NOT hold true.
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u/krokodil40 Nov 18 '24 edited Nov 18 '24
Belarus secretly has progressive laws, but nobody follows them. Usually parents and kids simply don't snitch on teachers. Taking a phone from a kid by force could cause several years in prison. Moreover teachers have responsibility for kids, so if anything happens to kids in school or on their way to school, a criminal case against teachers could be started. Hospitals report all traumas to police, so if the kid didn't lie where and when he had it the teacher would get a criminal case.
edit: snitching on your parents is even worse, because they will end up in prison and kids will end up in an orphanage, which is not very different from prison. Any home violence is easier to settle between each other.
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u/cutestsocdem Belarus Nov 18 '24
Teachers wouldn't be punished for hitting a male student. It's literally allowed by law
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u/krokodil40 Nov 18 '24
I have personally heard of at least one case last year. The teacher got several years of conditional sentence for dragging the boy by hand and leaving a scratch. Maybe if it's a student, but hitting him is still atleast an administrative case.
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u/Western_Minimum_3945 Nov 18 '24
Just recently there was a case of luka himself justifying teacher threatening to throw a table at the primary school student and cussing at him. In fact, because of him, that teacher was reinstated. When i was a kid corporal punishment was pretty much a norm at schools too, though it was done mostly by the shittiest teachers
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u/ZiFreshBread Nov 19 '24
I'm not a lawyer, but if some teacher beats any kid and it becomes known, they'll get fired immediately.
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u/meowrreen Nov 19 '24
happened in my school, though it was more of a slap. either with a ruler or a notebook
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u/Minimum_Resident_228 Nov 18 '24
Crimea is ukrainian!
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u/ClassicShoe9336 Nov 19 '24
Crimeans think differently;)
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u/Minimum_Resident_228 Nov 19 '24
No!They voted for to be in the composion of Ukraine!
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u/ClassicShoe9336 Nov 19 '24
Do you have reliable evidence of what you are saying? Or is it just your opinion?
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u/ClassicShoe9336 Nov 19 '24
lol, someone is deleting my comments, somebody complained, but I just said that it is necessary to ask the Crimeans, Abkhazians and Ossetians themselves how they are living) Аnybody can tell me, have you ever been to Crimea? and I visit Crimea every year, and I was there even before its annexation. So there have always lived and now live the most pro-Russian people. and if you don't know how to eat, it's better not to talk at all.
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u/JaskaBLR Biełaruś Nov 21 '24
Wait, it was banned in Soviet era? I'm pretty sure my parents were telling me it was allowed back then and even widely practiced.
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u/Illustrious_Law6182 Беларусь Nov 23 '24
No, I've lived my whole life in Belarus and this is the first time I've heard about this
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u/redraptor117 Belarus Nov 18 '24
Never seen anyone get punished in school. At home, however, i myself was belted a few times. Honestly I think it's a useful tool for a parent to have, just to use in extreme cases of their child misbehaving
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u/o2pb Nov 18 '24
Unsure why you got downvoted, back when I started school in the 90s most kids were getting belted at home for being "bad". Unsure if that still happens now. I (obviously) hated it at the time, but now 30 years later I understand why - I nearly got expelled from school multiple times for being a little shit.
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u/Sp0tlighter Belarus Nov 18 '24
I got belted too but I didn't know that what I was doing was wrong and sometimes it was just an accident. So I would say it's better to ban the practice altogether since some families misuse it and you can't really control it since the child wouldn't start looking for lawyers.
Downvotes are to be expected on reddit for unclear reasons.
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u/o2pb Nov 18 '24
In my case it was pretty obvious - don't throw fireworks into gym changerooms while the other class is getting changed. I was a legend (in my class), but my butt was sore at home lol.
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u/According_Weekend786 Nov 18 '24
Yes, it just depends how shit your parents or school is, but yeah, its rough, and one of the many reasons we walk around looking sad or angry
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u/Amoeba_3729 Nov 19 '24
Corporal punishment should not be banned at home.
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u/JaskaBLR Biełaruś Nov 21 '24
Pretty much a two-sided thing. At one hand if child misbehaves like really really bad, he deserves the punishment. Yet doesn't deserves to be taken away from it's parents by the social workers for just a few disciplinary slaps. At the other hand it should be banned just so people realize it's not something they should be doing unless the case is really extreme.
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u/Suspicious_Good_2407 Nov 18 '24
I think that if something like that to happen in school, the teacher might as well get a beating themselves from a parent who might not take kindly to such educational methods.