170813 HYYH The Notes

[u/flyingninjachicken]

https://twitter.com/BigHitEnt/status/896748183765753856

[u/FFED00]

i was patient enough to wait for 12kst. i can be patient enough to wait for translations. right? right..

EDIT: Peachisoda translation

Seokjin

13 June YEAR 22

After returning from that sea, we were all alone.

We did not keep in touch as if we had planned not to. We merely assumed our existence by the graffiti left on the street, the brightly lit petrol station, and the piano sound from the old building. This was when the afterimage of that night came alive like vision. Taehyung's eyes looked as if they breathe fire, the way their eyes watched me as if they had heard something unbelievable, Namjoon's hand that tried to stop Taehyung, and I who couldn't suppress and threw a punch at Taehyung.

Failing to find Taehyung who ran out, I returned to the dorm near the beach and no one was there. Only broken glass cup, blood stains which began to dry up, cookie crumbs brought me back to what had happened a few hours ago. There was a photo lying in the midst of this. In the photo, we stood together smiling while we posed with the sea as our background.

Even today, I just walked past the front of the petrol station. Someday when we meet again will come. Someday we will smile together just like the photo. The day when I have the courage to face myself entirely will come. However, right now, this very moment is not the right time. Even today, the damp wind blows like that day. And the next moment, the mobile phone rang like a warning. The photos I hung on the room mirror began to shake. I see Hoseok's name on the screen.

"Hyung, Jungkook had a car accident that night."

[u/Caledonia_Plaid → u/FFED00]

Just a thought. The title says "The Notes" as in more than one. Do you think they're going to release multiple notes? Maybe one for each member?!?!

[u/Serihn → u/Caledonia_Plaid]

It's likely because Jin's name is at the top of this one. ^{We're not gonna get any rest}

[u/FFED00 → u/Caledonia_Plaid]

very very likely imo

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OK, from what I understand from this:

Jin had punched Tae after they learn that Tae killed that man. Tae runs away that night. He tries to find him and even goes to the "dorm" but all he sees is blood & glass.

This note is written at a time after that happened, also after the prologue part where they all had fun together and went to the sea. Looks like they no longer kept in touch after prologue.

Then the message from Hoseok. I get a feeling that they are trying to find out the details of what happened that night, or what happened to the members.

The notes are clearly clues to eventually getting the whole story.

edit: nvm i cant even understand my own post dsAFgqrgafdagra

[u/pooplup → u/[deleted]]

This is kinda what I made out to be my theory too, but they completely scattered the chronological order accross the MVs so I'm lost. I always face inconsistencies in whichever theory I read.

Jin punches Tae in BST Japanese version, right? But Taehyung calls Jin and the boys right after his murder, in the beginning of Prologue (he washes the blood off his hands and calls one of his hyungs rightaway). So when they were at "the sea", they knew about what he did already. Unless I am wrong when I assume the sea is the one where Tae jumps in Prologue. There's a sea in INU, there's a sea in Spring Day. Maybe the sea scene is something we haven't even witnessed. I love how confused Bighit is making me lmao

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Yea, ok, scrap my post above. Actually, screw everything. We need at least one more clue before making assumptions 🤣😂

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I think I watched somewhere (like in one of the 'video making' videos) that in the prologue Tae haven't tell them about the murder. He only asked them to come. So they just hung out like usual but suddenly Tae jumped to sea. I guess after that they saved him and questioned him why. And that's when the punching happened.

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Jin had punched Tae after they learn that Tae killed that man. Tae runs away that night. He tries to find him and even goes to the "dorm" but all he sees is blood & glass.

I like this. I couldn't come up on my own with a single reason while would Jin hit Tae, and now I'm feel stupid.

[u/flyingninjachicken → u/FFED00]

In times like these I wish I knew Korean!!!

[u/[deleted] → u/FFED00]

Probably a lot of people thinking this but... this is messing me up because there are so many parallels to BS&T Japanese version when talking about "that night", but it's not quite how it goes. Namjoon doesn't try to stop Taehyung. Taehyung ends up stabbing Seokjin. Also, whose blood stains?

Edit: Also, considering the timeline, if it is indeed one timeline and not many stories sharing recurring motifs... we can assume "that night" occurs before the WINGS short films, right?

[u/KeepCoolStayYoung → u/FFED00]

This is too much for me to process right now.

[u/nevillelongbottom90 → u/FFED00]

The photos I hung on the room mirror began to shake. I see Hoseok's name on the screen.

"Hyung, Jungkook had a car accident that night."

This reminds me of the theory I saw about Jin traveling back in time to try and change things. Like it seems like this note is written years in the future after Tae kills his dad but then he's just now getting a call about Jungkook being hit by a car.

I don't know why but the photos shaking line makes me think it's like showing him going back in time. And now he's going to have to try and repair their relationships and not spend years without seeing the others.

I'm interested to see what it actually ends up being. Like if the storyline is clear or just super vague.

[u/FFED00 → u/nevillelongbottom90]

I feel like it's written years in the future, but it feels more like he's recalling that night: "Even today, the damp wind blows like that day. And the next moment, the mobile phone rang like a warning. The photos I hung on the room mirror began to shake. I see Hoseok's name on the screen."

He's associating the wind with that specific moment in the past.

[u/nevillelongbottom90 → u/FFED00]

Ah, yeah that makes sense.

I'll be interested to see if the story is going to be taking place years down the line from the main HYYH story or if it's going to be more of a direct continuation.

Or I guess it could be both. A combination of flashbacks/reminiscing and things taking place in the present.

[u/reallyemy → u/nevillelongbottom90]

it definitely feels like it's being written some times in the future after "that night" and jungkook's accident -- but at the present time for hoseok's call (present tense "see").

so it makes me wonder if the news of jungkook's accident might be a catalyst bringing them back together? it also lightly allude to the "Love Yourself" theme with seokjin saying he can't face himself yet.

i think it's a vague storyline with all kinds of references to past MVs. because even their MVs aren't exactly linear in their timelines.

[u/Aidiya → u/nevillelongbottom90]

"Hyung, Jungkook had a car accident that night."

AHHHH! I just realized why Jungkook is in a wheelchair in his Love Yourself poster! So slow

[u/FFED00 → u/FFED00]

also don't kill me but seeing "year 22" only reminds me that Jin is required to enlist by 2021 :(

[u/tellox → u/FFED00]

Do you mind explaining this to me? I'm unfamiliar with how the Korean military works.. Does he have to serve right away at in 2021, or is it like the draft where he doesn't serve until his number is called? How long does he have to serve?

Ahh! I can't stand the thought of any of the members serving :(

[u/tinaoe → u/tellox]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but basically Korean men have to enlist at some point between the ages of 18 and 35. Usually, they do it pretty early, but since k-pop bands are usually in their prime around that time they push it back. I'm a bit unsure how this works, but I think the idols are able to defer their enlistment due to the nature of their job. Most of them are also enrolled in higher education (as far as we know Jin is currently pursuing a Master degree while the rest minus Jungkook are at university too) which is a reason to defer as well. Idols will usually enlist around the age of 30, though I'm unsure why that is. Maybe enlisting later isn't well regarded by the public? Jin is a '92 liner, making him 30 by the time 2021 rolls around.

Service lasts for around 2 years, depending on where you land. 21 months is the minimum, Air Force gets 24 I think and non-active duty/public service up to 30 months. There's also people spending their service as firemen or in the police force. You only land in non-active duty activities if you have serious physical or mental health problems, iirc SuJu's Heechul spent his service as a public service officer due to shattering his leg in a car accident.

edit because I just remembered Suga actually talks about military enlistment in Adult Child here (shoutout to him looking cute af in that casual outfit).

[u/yeon_kimin → u/tinaoe]

I'm pretty sure most celebs enroll around 30 because they start receiving huge amounts backlash from the public for postponing enlistment the older they get (because special privileges that the general public don't get) and are accused of draft dodging.

Edit to add: There's also a government administration that directly manages celebrity enlistments now so... who knows what will happen. Apparently celebs aren't allowed to defer based on their jobs alone anymore but I don't know if that's true or hyperbole from clickbait websites.

[u/tinaoe → u/yeon_kimin]

Yeah that's what I figured, maybe 30 is the perfect balance between doing it in time but being able to work quite long before it too.

Ahh I totally forgot about that, tbh. Thanks for the addition! I saw a lot of drama around it when it first came out with translations being quite inaccurate or clickbait-y. My last info was that it was more a change on where they would serve because of the special privileges/better placement you mentioned? But who knows, we'll see I guess. With their university enrollments they should be safe from any spontaneous drafting anyway, I figure.

[u/tellox → u/tinaoe]

Thanks for clearing that up! Man, that sucks though.. I wonder how the band will get through that, especially when two members will likely be serving at any one time for a while (Jin and Suga, then Suga and Rapmon/Jhope, etc.).

That's sad to think about :((

[u/ihtktnnn → u/tellox]

from what I've heard from Korean friends, it gets physically and mentally exhausting to enlist later. physically exhausting because while not everyone goes through active duty, the (5wk? 8wk? idr) training period at the beginning is really intense. mentally exhausting because in many cases you're basically isolated from society. as a result, i think that's why idols enlist later - they don't disappear during their prime and they don't enlist so late that it's tiring.

i'm sure there are other reasons but this is the only one i know of

[u/Divyrus → u/FFED00]

To me, this notes makes sense to a lot of things? And also I like the fact that it now alludes to a normal story of 7 boys growing up, making mistakes, falling apart and struggling through adulthood alone. And this sounds so relatable.

They can develop the story in any way they want to suit how our boys are growing up? To how they can match their characters themes?

And I am pretty sure the night Jin is talking about is from Japanese BST video - where he hits Tae and Tae leaves the building? And somehow I feel his stigma short film happens after that? And he is either in a literal or metaphorical jail due to his guilt? And everybody fell apart. After some unspecified time later, Jin gets call from hobie on JK accident and then Jin goes to meet NJ at gas station? Saying - 'its been a long time' - last scene of Japanese BST video.

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There's also been translations that instead of

The photos I hung on the room mirror began to shake.

It's

The photo hanging on my rear view mirror shook.

One of these different translations is from Soompi.

It doesn't make much of a difference but it gives a different feeling, being in a room with pics or in his car looking at pics.

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I don't even know how to respond to this. How am I supposed to respond to this? My mind has just stopped working.

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Rough translation

[u/llaverna → u/chimchimchurri]

Here's a decent one in progress, that one is literally Google Translate

Edit: Another
Edit 2: Peachisoda

[u/GodLevi → u/llaverna]

I started tearing up midway but I am still so confused.

[u/FFED00 → u/llaverna]

Thank you! I was F5ing peachisoda too lol

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BIGHIT WHAT