Like MKBHD always says in his reviews, never buy a product today based on the promise of potential future updates, because tech companies often fail to deliver — especially when it's ambitious stuff!
Currently, PlayStation 5 is capable to support video games at an 8K resolution and has an HDMI 2.1 slot that enables the potential to play games in 8K resolution at 60 frame rates per second (FPS)
The whole thing of people buying ridiculously expensive 8k tvs is such a joke to me. Where are these people expecting to find an abundance of 8k content to watch?
Don’t. I thought the M1 iPad Pro was going to be the future of computing and I finally caved and got a MacBook Pro. Wasted so much time with the iPad when the MacBook would have been better to get right away
The difference between the original iPhone with iPhone OS 1 and the iPhone 15/15 Pro with iOS 17 is solid evidence that Apple will eventually get it mostly right- the question is whether this new ecosystem will catch on and survive long enough for the iteration to happen.
Full self driving (FSD) is still in beta. So while yes, you can. How much do you trust beta self driving software that explicitly tells you to always be in full control? Not quite what was promised.
Also, the hardware used for FSD has changed on newer teslas vs the original model S, where he promised that they already had all the hardware they needed for future FSD.
Apple already has an artifical limit on external displays in their low end SKUs. Good chance if they ever do fix it it'll only be for the high end models.
If $3500 wasn’t a lot of money for me, I’d be willing to try anyway. But it is, so I won’t have to worry about whether they add that feature for a while.
It might not be, they describe it as being a "virtual display" so if that's treated like an external display it could be running into the M1/2/3 limitation of 2 screens with the other permanently-occupied by the physical screens for your eyes. Like trying to plug two monitors into your MBA; M1/2/3 only supports 2, Pro supports 3, Max supports 4, and internal displays permanently occupy one slot.
It does seem like a software solution could handle it, although the window management problem might become more real. Vision Pro (it appears) allows you to have multiple floating window panes, but some limitation in how MacOS's windowserver (or some other technical part I don't know about), probably doesn't allow you to "abstract and float" a window anywhere because MacOS never anticipated needing to be able to do that. Yet.
Agreed. Many of these features we are disappointed are missing are probably already baked and plan for future updates. It doesn’t seem like a hardware limitation like the M Mac’s that can only have 1 plugged external display.
Fingers crossed tho, I know this is Apple I’m talking about so I’ll be patient.
I’ve got mine for pick up on the 3rd and will run it through my own tests, but I’m already quite sure it’s going to fit my daily lifestyle from the reviews so far.
Hoping for external controller support for gaming. Would love to play on my ps5 via remote play through the Vision Pro.
There is that new wireless radio tech I can't remember the name of, that is on the newest iPhones. I'm sure we'll get more than one screen eventually, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Is anyone streaming more than one screen wirelessly?
Come on. Just look at the competition. How long since we've been able to have Windows on however many screens you want. Even my Samsung phone has been able to act like a PC on whichever external screen for years. It's not a bandwidth issue. They're incompetent.
Apple likes to slowly rollout features and I assume this is one of those features that will show up later. This Vision Pro feels so much like a beta test.
How do you suppose that the uncompressed data will reach the VP wirelessly? Which of the wireless technologies currently employed in any laptop would support transmitting many Gbit/s to support multiple high-res monitors?
Why does it have to be uncompressed? We’ve had screen sharing on the Mac for ages with variable compression depending on network speed, and it looks great over local Wi-Fi. Same with AirPlay, and even CarPlay. I think they all use H.264 under the hood. I would assume this uses similar technology, if not the same.
How much this matters to you probably depends a lot on what you’re using the display for. If you need to display multiple programs that only run on your Mac, seems like you’re out of luck unless the display is big enough to adequately show your programs in the same window.
If you’re used to a 3 monitor work setup like:
Center monitor: focus work
Left monitor: safari webpage or PDF that you reference to do your main work
Right monitor: a different webpage or PDF. Or maybe a music player or YouTube window that you periodically glance at
It seems like the Vision Pro would still be good option for that, assuming you can have multiple safari or preview windows open.
I’m not saying that makes it worth it, but responding to a concern somebody raised about a particular use case. But to answer your question, the two obvious advantages would be portability and it would take up less space if you have a smaller desk or want to use it on the couch.
So, I sometimes use my Xreal Air glasses to add more displays, virtually, to work with. On my PC I can also do this with the Quest 2. What, then, does the Vision Pro offer that I don't already have?
Surely that’s a software update away though. Perhaps Mac osx update is required in conjunction with Vision Pro update and that is why it isn’t a feature that is launch ready? I hope. I have no intentions or personal interest in Vision Pro or mixed reality headsets for that matter, but I do want VR to grow and the only way to do that is for it to be mass adopted by the professional business world. Only way to actually get serious money into VR hardware and, by extension, VR software (which needs cash much much more).
So if I'm understanding correctly that would kill the Idea of multi monitor NLE integration? Obviously not a major issue for most but a definite professional use case in future. Shouldn't that be fairly easy to fix? (Disclaimer - utterly no knowledge of how that would happen).
I dealt with configuring multiple monitor remote macs to PC based Avid suites over COVID and there always seemed to be an issue with security exceptions/ OS parity involving lots of tweaking but maybe that's not applicable here.
ya not only is this product in alpha technically but you also cant have multiple screens which is what i thought would be the most useful thing to have with this device. i see no point in getting this now until they change that.
this one is reeaallly disappointing… people could’ve justified the spending by considering it a portable multi high end display solution for the mac. if people wanna use it for productivity, $3500 would give you a really high spec’d mbp…
also if anyone asks why productivity, because it’s what makes you money, and more people would find it justifiable when the expense could be written off as an investment in exchange for higher productivity
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It seems the hype crowd / use cases did get a bit of hand.
The FOV + Mac screen sharing limitation has also taken away the dream of people having multiple displays.
You can have your Mac screen + Vision Pro app windows open all over the place.
But you cannot have multiple displays/windows for your Mac which was a use case I kept seeing mentioned in the comments. It’s a single window only.