r/apple • u/Century24 • Jan 18 '24

YouTube and Spotify Won’t Launch Apple Vision Pro Apps, Joining Netflix Apple Vision

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-18/youtube-and-spotify-join-netflix-in-not-launching-apple-vision-pro-apps?utm_source=website&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=copy
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u/vc6vWHzrHvb2PY2LyP6b Jan 19 '24

It really is a big iPhone, but that's why I like it.

I got the Mini for $399- it's perfect for laying in bed and watching YouTube. It's an excellent e-reader and great for comics. It integrates well enough with my phone that I can do the same tasks.

When traveling, it's the perfect size to fit on the plane and watch movies or whatever.

When I'm feeling lazy, I'll sit in bed and pretend to work, then I can join Zoom calls and reply to Slack with it.

It's really about the form factor, and sometimes you just want a bigger iPhone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

I had the original iPad mini and I loved it. I have a iPad Pro 4th gen now and I wish I could trade it back for a mini.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

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u/shamusfinnegan Jan 19 '24

Vision Pro makes it hands free

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

Well, NOT entirely hands-free. 😏

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u/pmjm Jan 19 '24

Too big for my leprechaun fetish.

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u/kraken_enrager Jan 19 '24

iPads are super useful for execs who don’t really do much of bottom level work. It’s the ideal medium to read and annotate reports, PDFs, check emails and for videoconferencing etc.

I had my dad buy an iPad cuz he basically uses just his phone and hasn’t essentially used anything but his phone for his work since the blackberry days. It has a very small learning curve coming from an iPhone and can be a 90% replacement for it too. And the Apple Pencil is a delight on top of it.

That’s a pretty huge market, despite the consulting MD memes and stuff they are about the exact people it’s meant for.

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u/borg_6s Jan 19 '24

I should probably get my dad an iPad too, now that I think about it.

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u/cjorgensen Jan 19 '24

I use my iPad for work. Email, Teams, Slack. I also play games on it, text with friends, watch shows and movies, Reddit and surf the web. I bought the Magic Keyboard but never use it. Same with the Pencil (just not an artist, but artists love the iPad).

I have an M1 Air that I use to RDP into work PCs when I am WFH.

I’m probably on my iPad 8 or more hours a day with half those being work hours

As for the Vision Pro… I think consuming media on it would be awesome. A decade ago people were paying tons for a flat screen TV. This thing simulates a hundred foot TV screen. I can’t wait for version 2.0.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

I just love how overconfident Redditors are

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u/Sylvurphlame Jan 19 '24

It’s amazing how many people assume “it wouldn’t work for my job/workflow” means it’s necessarily useless or suboptimal for all jobs and workflows.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

Yup, if these people ran companies they’d last 30 days before crashing. Absolutely 0 imagination or awareness of our market. 

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u/Juice805 Jan 19 '24

If we are going off just anecdotes then so much of this is wrong.

iPads are far from useless, most of my gaming buddies have headsets, and there are many, many use cases for a good AR/VR headset.

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u/thebigFATbitch Jan 19 '24

I use my iPad for work every single day.

It’s nice to take something with me on set and have the Apple Pencil readily available for the thousands of signatures I need from Executives throughout the day. They absolutely LOVE not having to open their emails and click on links to sign things. They love being able to see the calendar on my 12.9” screen and not on their phones all the time.

There are so many things I can do on the iPad that I cannot do on my laptop - and it is so portable and light.

I disagree entirely with your essay on why the iPad is useless, clearly.

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u/NewAltWhoThis Jan 19 '24

Remember when you said “Except people like surfing the web and watching videos on their couches”?

That’s the Vision Pro sweet spot

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u/Jedkea Jan 19 '24

iPad with an Apple Pencil is the ultimate digital notebook. I was blown away when I saw how accurate the pencil was, and craved one for months until I finally got it. I assumed it would be just like the phone styluses. I no longer have 20+ notebooks, a desk covered in graphite, or a calculator sitting on my desk. It sits right next to my keyboard at work, and I reach for it many times a day to hash things out. I can find that weird obscure diagram I drew 2 years ago that would be long lost if still on paper.

Tons of students use an iPad as their primary note taking device. Hand written notes have better retention and in many areas typed notes won’t cut it. You need to be able to freehand draw.

I think AR/VR will be huge among people working on a computer. Based on some of the previews, it’s very close already. I have 3 monitors right now, and it’s never enough. When I work outside the office I am limited to just my laptop. It would be awesome to have a large amount of monitors anywhere while only bringing a small device. All those monitors take up a lot of space and power, and I frequently consider adding smaller ones above and below them.

I am sure people in other fields see uses for them that I don’t too, just like you missed the big selling point of iPads.

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u/Pucah420 Jan 19 '24

you totally forgot about people that, like me, take advantage of the pencil to study and thus i almost stopped using my laptop to do anything study related. laptop is useful when i need to use some circuit simulator software in my case

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u/Shapes_in_Clouds Jan 19 '24

It's crazy how long it took Apple to develop a stylus for the iPad. The product didn't really come into its own until the Pencil and Pro released IMO. As far back as 2009 when the New Yorker was using art drawn on an iPhone in the Brushes app, it was clear that Apple had a blind spot before the iPad was even announced.

iPad Pro + Apple Pencil is basically my favorite computing device ever.

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u/ThisIsNotTokyo Jan 19 '24

There’s a mini keyboard option and with google meet/facetime and tg, I can live a day with just my ipad

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u/crumble-bee Jan 19 '24

Everything I’ve used an iPad for:

• ⁠3D modelling. Character creation for rigging in blender, environment creation, city design.

• ⁠drawing, illustration, animation - procreate, dreams, traditional frame by frame animation.

• ⁠music creation - I’m a percussionist and using an XLR dock, rigged up my drum to do live looping, and FX I can control from the iPad while playing. I’ve used this live on stage and in various YouTube videos. Also, a range of digital instruments and music creation apps that allow you to create strange soundscapes and record into DAWS, and as a midi controller for ableton.

• ⁠video editing of smaller projects.

• ⁠mood board creation for screenplays.

• ⁠a third display for my MacBook and as a tablet for using a pencil with blender

• ⁠note taking and idea generation

• ⁠media consumption, marking up screenplays for feedback and as a reference while writing, as well as all the usual “big phone stuff”

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u/PooleyX Jan 19 '24

Nailed it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '24

I have a iPad Pro 4th gen. I use mine every evening to look at stuff that is an inconvenience to watch on my phone. I don't need a laptop or an actual computer so the iPad works great for me. It's nicer to do my grocery pickup, watch YouTube, play music to my speakers than using my phone for it. It definitely has it's space even if it isn't for everyone.

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u/iwasbornin2021 Jan 19 '24

Yeah I can see the set shrinking until it’s the size of slightly bulky glasses which would make it more mobile/portable than a MacBook or iPad, or even iPhone.

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u/Sylvurphlame Jan 19 '24

I can see where you’re coming from on the “is an iPad a computer replacement” angle, and I appreciate you mentioning the couch factor, because frankly casuals rule the mass market. But when you get to

And gaming is the only use case for VR that makes any sense.

I have to hard disagree. Another huge use case is training. There are a whole range of medical devices and techniques that can benefit from VR training. And that just one area/industry. We’re not there yet, but I think Apple is attempting a long game here, trying define a market, or an approach to a potential market.

But it remains to be seen if it will work out.

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u/WingedGeek Jan 19 '24

They're irreplaceable in the cockpit, FWIW.

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u/zeek215 Jan 19 '24

You call it a useless product, and yet between you and your wife you have 3 of them for some reason.

iPad is a more enjoyable media consumption device than the iPhone, that is the primary driver. The same thing applies to the Vision Pro.