r/aliens • u/throwawayduo186 True Believer • Nov 24 '23

Were the beings from Close Encounters of the Third Kind the same beings recovered in the Nazca caves? Analysis Required

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Twitter user compares the being from Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind with the mummies recovered from the Nazca cave.

https://x.com/tupacabra2/status/1727737659601392025?s=46

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u/WitchedPixels Nov 24 '23

Is it possible that the people who created the mummies modeled them after the movie? That would make more sense no? I forget if this is the sub where people get mad at skeptical thinking or if it's the other sub, either way this seems most logical to me.

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u/aliens-ModTeam Nov 25 '23

Removed: Rule 1 - Be Respectful.

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u/Clickityclackrack Nov 24 '23

I scrolled by dozens of comments talking about aliens in movies that must be modeled after real aliens prior to finding this one comment. I saw a trailer on top of a hill yesterday and i commented that in 1,000 years idiots are going to think anti gravity aliens must have put it there.

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u/Witty_Secretary_9576 Nov 24 '23

Except the carbon dating on them makes them much much older than the movie.

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u/Lunatox Nov 24 '23

Carbon dating isnt exactly the hardest thing to "fake." You just need old material. The dates aren't faked, but the item in question may be something modern made from old materials.

Not to mention that the dating samples were sent to labs from the hoaxers. They didn't send the "mummies" and allow the lab to take their own samples. This already makes the dating dubious.

There is a reason that experts in the field of archaeology aren't the ones who are "verifying" these "mummies."

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u/YouHadMeAtAloe Nov 24 '23

Because they used looted remains of pre-Columbian mummies.

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u/WitchedPixels Nov 25 '23

If that's true that's freaking insulting.

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u/sPinzon Nov 24 '23

Maybe because the remains used to make that hoax are older than the movie?

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u/PerryDawg1 Nov 24 '23

DING DING DING. I painted a face on a rock. They potassium argon dated it as 3 billion years old. Proof smiley faces are ancient.

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u/SpaceSick Nov 24 '23

So you're telling me that someone found 2000 year old mummies which would be extremely valuable on their own, destroyed them and somehow made the remains of the remains into these alien shapes that share no similarities with humans?

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u/YouHadMeAtAloe Nov 24 '23

Yes. There’s a huge multi-million dollar black market in Peru for these types of things. The entire reason the Peruvian Ministry of Culture is pissed are because huaqueros are destroying their cultural sites and artifacts

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u/sPinzon Nov 24 '23

The World Committee on Mummy Studies, one of the most important organizations in the study of mummies, has rejected its validity and described the finding as a fraud, describing it as "an irresponsible organized campaign of disinformation," also professors and professors of archaeology of Peru, such as the San Luis Gonzaga University of Ica (Unica), have rejected the version that they are "non-human -

https://es.wired.com/articulos/no-las-momias-que-presento-jaime-maussan-en-el-congreso-mexicano-no-son-extraterrestres-aqui-tienes-la-razon

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '23

in the late 1800s and early 1900s mummies in Egypt were burned for firewood because there were so many of them

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u/wonderfuckinwhy Nov 24 '23

Yes. Conspiracy theorists are great at knowing what's happening but being willfully ignorant to it. Like you just explained what's happening without being told it. Yall ain't stupid. You're just really into being the different guy that believes aliens visiting earth is real.

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u/CommodoreAxis Nov 24 '23

Human mummies of nameless normal people aren’t as financially valuable to the finder as alien mummies. Historically valuable, maybe, but nobody buys merch and few pay for presentations when someone discovers normal mummies.

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u/sleepytipi Nov 24 '23

Please, prove to me it's a hoax and I'll prove to you that it isn't 🚦

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u/Toyfan1 Nov 24 '23

https://youtu.be/-DmDHF6jN9A?si=guBnVoKij4vHfyjz

Its the same alien from 2 years ago, that was already disproven. But pop off. Maybe next year theyll bring it out again and you'll claim its a different set of aliens.

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u/sleepytipi Nov 25 '23

That's not proof the current specimens aren't real. You're speculating, just like everyone else is but go ahead, pop off.

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u/Toyfan1 Nov 25 '23

Its literally the same "specimens"

But go on, certainly you have proof that shoee these are 100% aliens. You said you could prove that its not a hoax.

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u/TeachMeWhatYouKnow Nov 30 '23

Yall say pop off too much, now make me pop corn you little poppers

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 Nov 24 '23

Because it's easy to dupe people by spouting science jargon.

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u/ObjectReport Nov 24 '23

This is exactly what I was thinking as well.

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u/Papa_Glucose Nov 24 '23

Possible. I’m just really struggling to understand how they were faked. They’re really convincing. Just the tissue connections and intact skeleton are enough to make me severely confused.

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u/PerryDawg1 Nov 24 '23

Things from a long time ago can be complex. There is a logical fallacy covering this modern inclination.

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u/ehmsoleil Nov 24 '23

The "skeleton" is a bunch of BADLY articulated bones from more than one type of animal. The cranium is a backwards modified alpaca skull. Some of the bones are upside down. It is not real. They have been debunked more than once.

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u/joppers43 Nov 24 '23

Dude they have upside down humans bones inside them, which are in different places in different mummies. They aren’t alien skeletons

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u/ObjectReport Nov 24 '23

I started off completely dismissing them as hoaxes, but as more detailed information has come out I've gone back to being 'neutral' in my position. I'm not saying I believe they're fake, but I'm not saying they're real either. I'm genuinely waiting for something to push my belief solidly in one direction or the other at this point.

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u/aaron_is_here_ Nov 24 '23

We literally have lifelike sex dolls for mass sale and you struggle to believe someone could make a mummy out of upside down bones and some glue

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u/Papa_Glucose Nov 25 '23

Yeah. You can make a lifelike doll out of silicone. Duh. What’s your point? This isn’t silicone, it’s bones and sinew and flesh and organs. They’ve been proved to be continuous skeletons. Idk what you want me to say. They’re not animal bones and there hasn’t even been so much as an incision mark. There is zero evidence of tampering.

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u/wonderfuckinwhy Nov 24 '23

That's what they're there to do. They've been trying to sell you this same case for years and now found a way to make it more believable. At least until the next round they try to pass off discarded remains as a mummified alien. Like the apocalypse theories. There's always one until that date passes and the next end of world date is the big thing. I think the term is grifters

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u/Cpteleon Nov 24 '23

Or maybe you're just really gullible.

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u/IthilienRangerMan Nov 24 '23

I know what Mexican universities have said about their analysis of the bodies, but did an American university get to test any samples of this body? Genuinely curious. It's hard for me to trust a known hoaxer, but the analysis from the Mexican universities is compelling if true.

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u/sPinzon Nov 24 '23

Mexican universities did make studies but they can’t say anything, the one who supposedly said the analysis results was mausan who is clown

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u/WitchedPixels Nov 24 '23

No so far everyone that did the analysis was handpicked, unless there has been something new I'm unaware of. I stopped following that one.

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u/kensingtonGore Nov 24 '23

Or maybe the alien expert Spielberg hired who ran 3 of the US UFO investigation programs and who invented the phrase close encounter might have had some accurate information that he passed onto his client. Just as possible.

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u/DogmanDOTjpg Nov 24 '23

Nope way more believable that Steven Spielberg is actually an alien and trying to get back home