This project is sounding hella ambitious, lol. After Ludwig's Tenet score, it should be interesting to see the elements he uses for this one. Spartacus series as inspo, perhaps?

Music from a German crime drama SOKO Hamburg sounds oddly familiar (Season 3 Episode 13, April 6th, 2021).

Sorry, no video, don't want to get trouble.

https://reddit.com/link/1hp2z78/video/sljgpzc15u9e1/player

We all know and love the ending. But I've noticed something. There's a breif exchange with Ives, both comment on Neil's ability as locksmith and him the only one capable of "opening the door in time".

Then I was struck by the fact that Neil does not open the door, he closes it, at least from his point of view. He's inverted: so he runs, closes the door, kneels and catches an inverted bullet from the bad guy, sacrificing himself to save TP.

What kind of ability is needed to close a door? Does he have to perform the lockpicking in reverse after closing the door and how does that work?

I've always been fascinated by how knowledge works in inverted people. Like, solving a puzzle in reverse. In the movie we see inverted TP act "normally" from his point of view, in a inverted world, even if he "unsplashes" water while walking. But does one have to know how to solve a Kubrik's Cube in order to scramble it? Regular people see the cube being solved but for the inverted person it's actually taking a solved cube and scramble it.

Someone brief me about, how Neil was there at auditorium in the beginning of the movie ? Also, I want to know how the protagonist sets things up after as it shows at the end of movie.

I just recently watched Tenet for the second time, first time being when it was in cinemas. Typically I’m really into my movies and consider myself decent and understanding complex plots. As soon as I get a whiff of a Chris Nolan project I’m usually at the edge of my seat, so when I went to watch it in 2020 I was tragically underwhelmed to say the least. So much so I fell asleep during the 2hr 30 min viewing. Afterwards I pegged it as a result of me not comprehending the happenings throughout. But having rewatched it I can’t help but still feel the same.

The rewatch took me around 3.5 hours to get through due to my excessive rewinding to catch an explanation I failed to understand; so much so that my wife completely lost interest after an hour into the movie and left to do something else (yes I’m no fun to watch movies with others). I understand that Nolan’s movies are usually fast pace but my days this takes the cake. Inception, Oppenheimer, The prestige, etc, I’ve had no problem with. Feel like Ive wasted a lot of time even trying to replay scenes and should have just watched it like a normal person and gone exploring online after running it through once. The whole concept of Tenet was lost on me. I understood the reveals (as Nolan typically concludes with in the conclusion of his films) but the actual mechanics of Tenet was lost on me. I know why people did what they did in the films events I just don’t know the how. I didn’t dive into physics in College or University so perhaps it’s a story communicating to an ‘if you know you know’ type of audience. I do understand what entropy is in a thermodynamics context (Engineering graduate) but it’ll admit it’s been a while since Uni . How did Sator set up all of these events? How would it be Armageddon if he succeeds? Why was the Opera house mission key to the story?

If someone has a simple, layman explanation that’ll help the penny drop on the “how” (mechanics of Tenet), it would be much appreciated, and I ill try connect the dots in my own head. Analogies encouraged. I will, of course, also delve into forums/reddit posts etc in attempt to comprehend wtf I just dedicated my Saturday evening trying to understand. Thanks.

During the final battle/ temporal pincer move the blue team fights the battle in reverse and then relays the events to the red team before it takes place. After that the blue team’s mission is completed and they can revert themselves. At this point however, since they are going to live through the battle again forward through time why can’t they join fight again? I guess I’ll also ask what’s stopping someone from inverting/ reverting like 10 times and creating an army of themselves?

Dmitry Rybolovlev - Wikipedia

• Somewhat resembles Andrei Sator
• Is a Russian oligarch
• Collects art
• Is a victim of an art fraud
• Main hobbies include sailing a planing sailboat
• Is connected to a mine collapse that created a ghost town

I'd say "convince me otherwise" but could be just coincidence :) Interesting similarities nevertheless

This movie hit me hard. I’m both puzzled and fascinated by the implications of such a world. I’d love for it to be real—it would be such fun.

So... what's next? Is anyone out there working on making it real? (/s but not so much)

By the way, I have a degree in math if anyone needs help with some calculations.

>!At the beginning of the movie, the CIA is trying to extract the WDM (Well-Dressed Man) for buying "Plutonium 241" from a Russian General in the VIP booth. Sator in the middle of the film mentions how the CIA is usually "buying, not selling" plutonium, so its likely the WDM arranged some sort of deal to purchase the 241 from the General. This is further corroborated when the WDM says, "But I established contact," meaning he did indeed already conduct the transaction/deal with the General.

However, since this "241" was obviously not 241 at all and was instead the last part of the algorithm, what purpose did the CIA have with it? Was the CIA instead deployed by Sator (as we know he clearly had influence over multiple intelligence agencies) for them to do the grunt work, get the algorithm, and then Sator would give them some funds in return? But again, the CIA in the movie is usually "not selling."

Any help?!<

Who was the swat guy telling TP to “back away. You don’t have to kill these ppl?” The one Neil killed. My thing is, wouldn’t that guy have had a Ukrainian accent rather than an English accent? Who was he??

The time inversion concept for weapons and people is confusing and makes little sense, but it passes the smell test for a dumb scifi movie which is more style than substance.

What isn't in any way clear to me is how they are supposed to go back in time and then act normally - they do this more than once, for example when the protagonist goes back to brief Priya about how he shit the bed, and when the female lead goes back to try to mess with the head of her Russian mobster husband; it's established that the time travel mechanism they have is a turnstile that inverts things, and in these instances they aren't inverted, so how do they do it?

It's entirely possible that I fell asleep during the film for ten minutes and missed an expository dump, but I would appreciate the kindness of anyone filling me in, if there is an explanation.

Priya says the scientist "hid" the algorithm in the past. I assume that means it was inverted. But it doesn't behave like an inverted object, so when was it un-inverted?

Been bugging me!

So here’s the thing I understood about what the main goal of Tenet is. Tenet isn’t just trying to stop the algorithm from activating, but it’s ensuring that the future thinks that the algorithm has yet to be assembled so they will try and use Sator to assemble it from the future only to get stopped again. That’s why they don’t diffuse the bomb, but just steal the algo from the dead-drop.

However, if the future knows that the Stalks-12 battle was chosen as the place to put the algorithm, and I assume they knew from posterity that it was in fact Sator who was part of that battle with whoever they thought they were fighting (otherwise why choose a random battlefield? They must have known Sator had played a part in it in the future), and if the algorithm is not there, don’t the future then definitely know that Sator had failed? Because if the algo was assembled, and they KNEW it was the place Sator would put the assembled algorithm, they must have known that the problem wasn’t the assembling of the algorithm but the dead drop itself correct?

I didn’t even realize this existed

I just want to understand, you can't time travel exactly but you can go backwards inverted, correct? So when they went back to the airport crash wasn't that a "last week" before they discussed it? So how did they get that far back? And if they are to revert them selves back to normal in the past then wouldn't there be 2 of the same person going forwards at the same time until the original self inverted... but then thered be another and another and another and so on. So thats not right. So what happens when they revert them selves in the past while there's the orignal one of them at the same time? I just wanna understand how they went back to the time of the airport crash and then got back to the present again. Or did they? I don't get it. What am I missing? I'm sure there's something that's making me see this wrong. Pls help lol

So I've seen this film three times now, and after my third watch it's a subjective 10/10 for me. I've never gotten so much value out of a single film before, showing it to my friends to watch them get mindfucked (And selfishly, for me to rewatch and gather more details) has been my favourite thing to do as of late.

Unlike Nolan's other films however, I can't find a clear meaning behind it all, not that there has to be per se. Inception was at it's core about a man trying to get home to his kids. Interstellar was about love for your kids transcending time and space. Tenet though? The only thing I've got is that it's about the complexities of global intelligence agencies and the insane situations that can come out of that mess. Does anybody else have theories?

I haven't shared about my journey on Reddit since two years ago in 2022. Thought I'd re-ignite the discussion now.

I don't know if this exact fan theory has been discussed before but, after watching Tenet so many times (I watched it yesterday and still amazes me that it gets better each time you watch it. A really underrated film and one of the best films ever made by Nolan, specially from a technical view, starring the best female Nolan character, too), the conclusion I came with that makes the most sense about Neil's death to me is this one, though I could be wrong.

From Neil's POV (i.e Inverted):

1) He inverts himself (after having acquired the algorithm and shared it with Ives and TP), either before tunnel is blocked or waiting to be unblocked from the explosion.

2) He gets though the gate (which is unlocked) and opens it for The Protagonist and Ives

3) When TP and Ives finish what they were doing, Neil locks the door (i.e unlocking it from TP and Ives' POV so they can get through it, kill Volkov and obtaining the final algorithm)

4) He gets shot "normally" by Volkov (i.e a forward bullet) few seconds after having locked the door and he dies, falling to the floor while having that killing bullet located in Neil's corpse. Nothing else, no magical bullet appearing or disappearing from nothingness

Now, from Volkov's POV (i.e Forward):

1) He puts an explosion trap at the entrance of the tunnel much time before any Tenet member (neither inverted or forward) can access the tunnel.

2) He locks the gate and prepares the algorithm explosives.

3) He faces TP and Ives and knocks down Ives.

4) He and Sator discusses with TP.

5) Sator tells him to kill TP.

6) Now's the key moment. He approches the gate to kill TP BUT, instead of firing a normal bullet, he is not really "shooting" but getting back the bullet. And he gets back that bullet by having Neil's corpse stand up by himself, the killing bullet is "retrieved" through Neil's head right to his gun, Neil is "alived" and unlocks the gate.

So, in a few words, the bullet is inverted, the gun is not. And Vulkov didn't know it, hence his surprise face retrieving a bullet instead of really firing it (well, that and watching someone come back to life and unlocking the gate that you originally locked is pretty shocking, too).

It's like that scientist scene at the beginning of the film, where TP is using a normal gun in front of a rock but instead of firing, he's getting back the bullet stored in that rock.

In other words, like in Neil's death, the gun is NORMAL but the bullet is INVERTED. It's the same thing.

Christopher Nolan has directed 11 movies this century, and they’re all great. However, one of them has to be considered his “worst.” That doesn’t mean the movie is bad—it simply means it’s the least exceptional compared to his other works.

So, don’t get upset when people say that Tenet is his worst movie. Objectively speaking, it is. Just look at its IMDb rating—it’s the lowest among all his films.