Is Elon Musk targeting X accounts against H1-B visas? Laura Loomer, others question loss of blue checks and subscribers

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u/SetOk6462 Conservative 🇺🇲 19h ago

Regardless of how you feel about H1B’s, if he is going to state he is pro-free speech, he cannot be trying to silence his critics.

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u/et_hornet Moderate 🇺🇲 21h ago

Elon needs to go. He has too much of a say in Trump’s decisions, and H1B’s allow him, and Vivek (it pains me to say this about Vivek because I like him a lot), and any big businessman to exploit foreign workers. Elon being in the government makes the US look like an oligarchy (yes we’ve been one for years but now it’s obvious), and his presence in the Trump admin makes the left despise DJT even more

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u/ztexxmee 21h ago

not only to exploit foreign workers, but also to fuck over american workers.

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u/Winstons33 18h ago

The whole thing could have been more subtle. I can't explain why a rational guy like Vivek got involved... Musk...well, he just can't help himself.

Personally, I think about half the current count of H1B is the right number. Only the true experts.

Near as I can tell, nearly anyone with a 2 bit degree qualifies... About half of them are worthy.

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u/TT0069 19h ago

Says the troll.

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u/AtticusXA 22h ago

I’m not surprised at the fact he has - his views on H1-Bs have always been this way

Him removing blue check marks etc for dissenting views shows he cannot be a trusted conservative in the party as free speech is one of our big marks and he himself was one of the main advocates for free speech

What are your guys thoughts?

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u/supergainsbros 21h ago

Trump needs to can him. If anything this could actually be huge FOR Trump. The left now hates Elon, the Right will hate him soon. Firing Elon will actually be something to unite the country.

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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 9h ago

I’m a registered Dem and I swear Elon deterred me from Trump more than Trump himself. I can handle different views and opinions, but I’ve genuinely felt Elon was bad for years. If Trump dumped him I 100% think that would be a darn good start to some unity.

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u/Palerion 8h ago

Agreed. The moment Elon was announced as a cabinet pick, I became extremely skeptical of his campaign.

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u/LongJohnVanilla Constitutional Conservative 17h ago

Musk has no loyalty to his own kids, you think he gives two fucks about the country that let that mercenary in?

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u/superweb123 9h ago

Ain’t the point of giving company tax breaks is so they can create more jobs… for Americans. Letting them avoid taxes and just hire foreign workers for cheap labor screws us knowing how many skilled Americans can’t get skilled jobs

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u/The_Mauldalorian Classical Liberal 17h ago

While I don’t agree that doubling H1-Bs is the solution, I do agree with Vivek’s points on American culture breeding poor STEM graduates. I went to a regular public high school and out of my class of 220 I can count on one hand how many of us majored in engineering (myself included). And that’s including the people that eventually switched out of engineering after it got too hard. We need to completely revamp our education system so Americans can be smart enough for STEM jobs, not abuse cheap labor.

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u/NavyNatural8 11h ago

I know several American college students who opted not to major in computer science because of the prevalence of H-1B hires leading to insane levels of competition for entry level positions.

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u/TestPilot68 15h ago

Exactly, what US STEM workforce are you attracting and incenting towards excellence by suppressing their earnings via cheap foreign labor with artificially inflated degrees?

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u/CJ4700 2h ago

Want to fix the H1B problem? Require any company hiring one to pay them $250,000 a year. If they’re so qualified, why not, right? That’ll show the hypocrisy real quick.

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u/Reverse_Speedforce 16h ago

I also agree with him saying that the Jock students are more highly regarded by most people than the engineering nerd are.

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u/CJ4700 2h ago

Looking at the database, a ton of these H1B jobs are just entry level bullshit positions. It’s the same argument as the open border folks for 90% of these visas, they love the cheap labor and employees who will work 100 hour works out of fear of deportation.

Regardless, I’m over Elon and I don’t want this fucker having ANY decisions making authority over our budget because I don’t believe he loves this country and will put it first. Too close to China too but that’s another argument all together.

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u/superweb123 9h ago

Sure you can count on one hand but do you know how many people graduated with stem degrees and can’t get a job. The problem isn’t that Americans are “Lazy” it’s that companies want to save a pretty penny

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u/Coolenough-to 9h ago

All of this convo misses Elon's contention that he did not personally do anything to these accounts. The X system reacts when a certain number of verified users place negative feedback of some sort on an account in a certain amount of time.

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u/jinladen040 18h ago

Yall are silly if you think Liberals will ever be against H1B Visas.

I work in Research in Academia going on 17 years and nearly a quarter of our positions are filled by H1B Workers. Mainly Asian and Indian.

That's just something Libs will never be against. They will never promote putting Americans first in that manner.

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u/iLikeSmallGuns 18h ago

It’s propaganda.

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u/stlyns 13h ago

Every story I've saw about this issue specifically mentions Laura Loomer. She's been pushed off of every platform and had to beg Elon to reinstate her X account when he bought Twiter. She constantly complains about losing followers, not having as much reach, she over reacts and gets dramatic for the sole purpose of trying to start some kind of shitstorm over nothing. She operates under the idea that being loud and obnoxious makes her right. She's basically grifting off of Trump's popularity on X and having an inflated follower number is important to her inflated ego.

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u/CJ4700 2h ago

I don’t care for her but she’s right on this one and neither Elon or anyone else advocating for “free speech” should go out of their way to make sure Laura and any other voices they disagree with not only have a platform but aren’t silenced unless there’s ample, TRANSPARENT, compelling evidence they violated terms and conditions.

Either way maybe this will open up more people to the real war going on and spoiler, it ain’t left vs right. It’s top vs down and Elon isn’t on the regular persons side.

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u/Own-Pizza2342 20h ago

The sooner we get rid of scum like Loomer/Fuentes off our backs the better it is for the conservatives. We saw the other end (ultra-left) of extremes play out in the last 4 years, I don't want our party to go down this route.

We've won the popular vote because we are sane, let's not lose that by becoming insane. Loomer and the social media hate enablers don't/shouldn't have any place in the party or in the country.

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u/ShineOnHomie 19h ago

Look, I understand if you disagree with them, but America has a First Amendment. Musk has been advocating for this over the past year. It's a complete double standard and reflects poorly. The policy might need to find a middle ground, but removing individuals simply because they are disliked is not the solution.

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u/SetOk6462 Conservative 🇺🇲 19h ago

I agree Fuentes and Loomer are scum. But if Elon is going to start silencing critics then his statements about free speech are nothing but hypocrisy. We don’t need more hypocrisy.

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u/TT0069 19h ago

More pearl clutching nonsense promoted on this sub. Documented, skilled labor who pay taxes and have to compete under law that requires job posting and vetting is not the same as importing 20 million illegals to work in factories and fields. Stop acting like this is the Democratic plantation policy. Loomer is an ass that has done hundreds of BS things to get her blue check pulled. She is the epitome of disinformation. You’re a dem troll if you amplify her crying.

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u/AtticusXA 18h ago edited 13h ago

Loomer is a bad example , I agree she’s. insane - but she isn’t the only conservative page that lost their blue check for disagreeing with Elon

Also the point of free speech is to let anyone speak their mind if we censor one thing then that just lets us censor other things

Also with H1Bs you can hire from other foreign agencies who don’t have to comply with regulations and hold all the accountability, these agencies do not have to comply to American law to a good extent

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u/TestPilot68 15h ago

No it's not the same its worse. Far worse.

You completely ignorethe reality of H1B indentured servitude, and the impact of slave labor on US STEM students and workers.

Thought exoeriment- Let's start with importing 100k H1B medical doctors with full medical license reciprocity. What do you think will happen to the salaries of medical providers and the quality of care?

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