r/Protestantism • u/Haunting_Beyond1288 • 15d ago

Would like to know

Hello, I am not a protestant and have no interest in becoming one. Today I was told that protestants belive Jesus is God but not gods son is this true? I was under the impression you belived him to be both whatever the case can someone provide evidence of which is the case thank you 😁

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u/SamuelAdamsGhost Catholic Catechumen 15d ago

Most Protestants affirm the Nicene Creed, so no, that isn't true for the vast majority.

However, given that Protestantism is a very wide category, there are some who do believe that I'm sure

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

So you belive he is God and God's son?

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u/SamuelAdamsGhost Catholic Catechumen 15d ago

"And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Only-begotten, Begotten of the Father before all ages, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, Begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father; by whom all things were made:"

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

Thank you

Isn't that a Catholic prayer?

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u/SamuelAdamsGhost Catholic Catechumen 15d ago

No? It's part of the Nicene Creed

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

Oh okay thank you again 😁

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u/RRHN711 Protestant 15d ago

"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the substance of the Father. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible."

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

Okay thank you

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u/Onehundredbillionx 15d ago

I’m not Protestant but I’ve never heard of any Protestant believing Jesus is God but not Gods Son.
I have heard of them believing he’s Gods Son but not God, although that’s a very rare and niche belief, even in Protestantism.

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

That's what I thought, but the person who told me this said they wanted a source.

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u/cPB167 13d ago

Some types of unitarians believe this, kind of. Or rather that Jesus is God, and that the terms "Father", "Son", and "Holy Spirit" are all just titles for Him rather than being separate persons of the trinity. And there are other kinds of unitarians who believe just the opposite, in a type of subordinationism that holds to the idea that Jesus is God's son, but not God.

"Protestant" is a very broad label, as someone else said, there are groups that hold pretty much any kind of belief that you can think of, but most affirm both the Nicene and Apostles creeds. Some have beliefs that are almost identical to Catholic or Orthodox doctrines, most vary from that on a few key, but quite important points, like how salvation works, the value of the sacred tradition, or what practices are acceptable, and a few hold beliefs that are quite significantly different, like this.

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u/Metalcrack 15d ago

Really? I've heard of Apostles Creed in Protestant Churches, but not Nicene. News to me! I'm non-denominational so I'm a bit different than most.

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u/SamuelAdamsGhost Catholic Catechumen 15d ago

Quite a few Protestant laymen do not know what it is. However, their denominations are the ones that affirm it

u/Subdued-Cat 15d ago

Most Protestants believe he is "God the son" meaning he is both the son of God and a member of the triune God. He shares in the one being of God but he is his own individual person as God the son.

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u/Haunting_Beyond1288 15d ago

Okay thank you, do you have a source for this?

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u/Subdued-Cat 15d ago

I don't have a specific source because this is somewhat "common knowledge" among protestants. But I will list a few articles and a video that help explain it and that reference bible verses about it.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-the-Son.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-God-man.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/fully-God-fully-man.html

https://biblethinker.org/20-questions-with-mike-winger-episode-111/ (Question addressed at 1:07:56 and at 1:09:57)

u/GeezerWhoLovesGod 12d ago

Hi! I am a young Protestant and a Baptist Protestant at that, in my form of Protestantism we believe in the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son and The Holy Spirit, the father represents God the father himself, while the son represents Jesus, who is both God and the son of God, hope this helps! Feel free to ask more!