r/MarkMyWords 2d ago

MMW: Britain will come VERY close to having an internal and public diplomatic spat with the United States over the independence and sovereignty of Canada. Solid Prediction

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u/myhairychode 2d ago

It certainly helps Putin to generate a bunch of in-fighting between NATO nations. Come on people. Wake up.

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u/Fun-River-3521 2d ago

So this is why Putin wanted Trump to win the election its all connected man

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u/Ricky_Ventura 2d ago

And pull out of Ukraine.  And further delegitimize the election process.   And push the US deeper into political violence.

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u/LoudAd9328 2d ago

And further legitimize the completely stupid idea that if you have enough military, you can just take whatever land you want.

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u/TheBlack2007 2d ago

That's actually Putin's game plan here. Trump is going to muscle Denmark into ceding Greenland, re-colonize Panama and maybe even outright annexing Canada so Putin can then tell the non-aligned world: "see, the 'collective west' is doing exactly the same, so how exactly am I the bad guy?!"

So you'll see a lot of smaller nations normalizing their relations with Russia and starting to support their initiatives at the UN again, which exclusively aim at weakening the west. In the end, it might be the west who ends up being isolated, with Russia and China leading a global front against it, while in actuality, the Euro-American Alliance has already broken thanks to Trump's efforts.

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u/Kind-Entry-7446 1d ago

i have a feeling a lot of people in the government and military would derail any attempts to mobilize against anyone in earnest.

i think you really underestimate how much Europe-especially ex soviet countries hate russia. and how much asian, african and middle eastern countries hate china,
it serves all smaller countries to support all of the major powers lest one take over and destabilize the global economy. even china realizes this which is why its singular military goal is small and would have a vertical impact on the supply chain. america is their cash cow. it needs to stay alive in order for the other smaller trading partners to also stay alive.

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u/UncreativeIndieDev 1d ago

i have a feeling a lot of people in the government and military would derail any attempts to mobilize against anyone in earnest.

That was more the case Trump’s last term. During that term, the military even got rid of any of Bannon's followers in the military, while the secretary of defense refused Trump when he tried to enact the Insurrection Act against protesters and during the elections. Now, all his nominations are complete loyalists, his cabinet picks plan to follow Project 2025 which calls for purging the government of any workers not loyal to Trump, and Trump has been pretty public about wanting to purge the military of anyone not loyal to him. Nothing short of a military coup could really stop any of this given Congress and the Courts also back him.

i think you really underestimate how much Europe-especially ex soviet countries hate russia.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who have rose-colored glasses when it comes to the Soviet occupation of much of Europe. Like, you'll find plenty of East Germans today who actually think the DDR was better than modern Germany and conveniently forgot how much of a police state it was. Far right parties are on the rise all throughout Europe and they mostly take either an indifferent or supportive view towards Russia.

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u/franklyimstoned 9h ago

The real underestimate is the relationship between the US and Canada.

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u/CrazyFuehrer 1d ago

At this point, UN will stop to exist, and smaller nation will seek alternative solutions for their national security.

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

The west will not be isolated because it will not want anything to do with the US if it goes down this path. It is the US that will be isolated.

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u/NoodleyP 5h ago

Now the question is is Trump being paid off by Putin for this expansionism or does Trump just want all this shit because he’s greedy and power hungry?

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u/SkyrimsDogma 1d ago

And get revenge for losing the cold war/having yeltsin as president

Ok i might be reaching

/tinfoilhat

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u/TryDry9944 1d ago

Gee, I wonder why Putin would want a Russian asset as president.

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u/BellBoardMT 2d ago

This is why the FSB hacked the UK’s ‘Brexit’ referendum as well.

It’s all been about weakening the EU and NATO so that Russia’s expansion plans go unopposed.

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u/OkDistribution990 1d ago

Wait if this is known why wasn’t it overturned?

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u/BellBoardMT 1d ago

Regarding the report on it: “The government (led by Prime Minister Boris Johnson), which formally has authority to control the timing of its release to the public, refused to do so before the 2019 United Kingdom general election in December.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum

The same reason that the Republican Party wouldn’t investigate Russian interference in the 2016 US Election: it suited their agenda.

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u/OkDistribution990 1d ago

The same thing happened with the 2024 election. Now it’s a wait to see if Dems roll over or do something this time.

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u/Rianfelix 1d ago

Because right wing politicians benefit from it.

And left wing politicians are too scared to mention it.

Not specifically talking about the US with that one. But most of NATO.

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u/PrincessGambit 1d ago

??? Are you seriously realizing it now?

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u/Sad_daddington 6h ago

Literally the plan all along. Break up NATO. Break up the UN. Break up the EU. Move them all politically closer to his own fascist oligarchy. Then rule from the shadows via puppets like Trump, Farage, Orban etc

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u/Quinnlyness 2d ago

Amen!  You get it too!

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u/Waste_Hovercraft_143 1d ago

Not to mention it helps with their whataboutist propaganda. "Yeah, we are trying to take Ukraine but the US is trying to take Canada".

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u/Vivid-Ad-4469 1d ago

It's not about Putin, it's about the end of the so-called "rules-based order" and the beginning of a new age of imperialism. Putin was just the first (and even that is arguable since Israel has been pissing on the rules-based order since its foundation and a lot of what Putin is doing is just him imitating what Israel has always done).

If the systems of alliances and treaties no longer works and the free-for-all begun it makes sense, in a weird way, for the US to begin to physically expand once again. But then you'll have the issue of Porto Rico. Conquered 100+ years ago, still just a territory, because new senators and house representatives will upset the delicate political balance in the US. A new wave of american expansionism with the creation of new states will break down the current dem-rep balance and probably bring a Napoleon/Augustus as emperor.

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u/BanTrumpkins24 2d ago

Where does this U.S citizen sign up to fight for Canada?

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u/perringaiden 2d ago edited 2d ago

Just south of Detroit I think. Dieppe Gardens.

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u/BishopDarkk 2d ago

Does the US guy have a quiver full of arrows or maybe candy canes? This low-effort AI shit is really stupid.

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u/Nerevarine91 2d ago

Also apparently all the troops on the US side are Confederates, while the guy in front is in Union uniform. I’m guessing the prompt specified “Civil War soldiers.”

Meanwhile, budget cuts to the army mean the British forces don’t have a cannon, but they’re still bringing one of the wheels along with them as a morale booster.

I won’t even get into the anachronisms and inconsistencies (the British officer is wearing a uniform from decades later than the redcoats behind him. He also has a flintlock on his belt when he should be solidly into the revolver age).

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u/BishopDarkk 2d ago

Let us not forget the really long pistol the "Brit" is carrying.

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u/WaterOk7059 11h ago

and the sole artillery wheel, on the "Brit" side. I guess they hoop rolling or something.

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u/Effective-Evening651 2d ago

When i was deep into the firearm community, there was a common meme about gun owners protecting their rights in case the redcoats came back. If 'yall have to come back over THIS.....I hate to say it, but i'll be on you guys' side.

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u/Mothraaaaaa 2d ago

You won't regret being on our side. We eat Cadburys Cream Eggs even when it's not Easter. IMAGINE THAT.

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u/Effective-Evening651 2d ago

THIS.......is the BEST argument you could make to ME for switching countries. Even pre-Trump nonsense. I'm gonna seriously have to think the next time a prospective employer asks me if i'm willing to relocate to the UK.

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u/MydnightAurora 2d ago

Also they have Cadbury dairy milk with almonds which of you've not had, is on par with the eggs

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u/Mothraaaaaa 2d ago

Plus free healthcare.

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u/Anarchyantz 2d ago

Brit here. Free healthcare AND you can have Kinder Eggs as well as Cadburys Creme eggs.

Oh and our chocolate is not that tasteless crap you lot get, it is the better stuff. Oooh and you wont find all those weird E numbers and what not in 90% of your food as most of the ones you guys have are actually banned here in the UK, plus Europe, plus Australia/NZ, plus Asia, plus Japan due to being found to be unhealthy, bad for you or cause lots of other health problems.

Plus you really should try Colemans Mustard! Strong British stuff and is basic ingredients.

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u/Nikolopolis 17h ago

You would be able to cross the road when you, as an adult, deem it safe enough to cross. Imagine that.

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u/Mr_Gaslight 2d ago

Tell them about Curley Wurlys.

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u/Anarchyantz 2d ago

Oh man. I first had mine in the 70s. 10p each! And the bastards shrunk them now

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u/Mr_Gaslight 2d ago

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u/Anarchyantz 2d ago

Aha but I found my scrap book when I was a nipper and had that and an old skips pack in the pages. Compared it to one in the store a couple of years back and yes it was WAY bigger in the past. They got called out with the Roses tins as well as a collector used to well collect all the tins each year and showed the decrease over a 5 year period yet the price went up or stayed the same.

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u/Mr_Gaslight 2d ago

Shrinkflation.

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u/Anarchyantz 2d ago

Damn right and it is getting worse and all the papers do is blame the government for it rather than the bloody corporations.

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u/dirtnaps 2d ago

You can’t forget bagged milk

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u/IcarusOnReddit 2d ago

That’s just being on diabetes’ side.

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u/koreawut 2d ago

Do you actually have Cadbury's Creme Eggs (spell it correctly)? Or are you just trying to make a joke about how Hershey's company owns Cadbury's license to sell in the US and therefore ensures that we aren't legally allowed to enjoy the best chocolate on earth but once a year?

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u/Ferwatch01 2d ago

You technically are allowed to but you’d need to stockpile on them right after they’re put to sale

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u/koreawut 2d ago

You got me lol

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u/wondercaliban 2d ago

Yeah, they sell a chocolate bar called the twister which has the creme egg filling inside all yeAr round. But the eggs are only around from Day after Xmas to about May.

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u/firedogg5 1d ago

Your military can fit in a football stadium, what could you realistically even do to the USA? Don’t get me wrong I respect the British military and loved working with 2Para but yall don’t have the military personnel, logistical capacity, or anything really to compete with the USA

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u/Careless_Bison_143 2d ago

TRAITOR!!! TREASON!!!

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u/Effective-Evening651 2d ago

Cadbury. I'm a fat man, who LOVES a Cadbury, and wants to inhale them year round. I will commit treason for Cadbury eggs "out of season". Sorry, 'murrica. My own country only ever offered me apple pie to satisfy my sweet tooth......I was never a fan.

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u/Careless_Bison_143 2d ago

Valid point... thanks for having a sense of humor.

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u/Belisarius9818 2d ago

We gotta start tarring and feathering those late loyalists

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u/BenderTheBlack 2d ago

The “redcoats” will never make it across the Atlantic

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u/Wild_Coffee3758 1d ago

Weren't the 'redcoats' one of the few that fought in Iraq with you guys?

Talk about ungrateful.

They went through years of austerity that led indirectly to brexit while fighting an expensive unnecessary war declared on false pretenses, and ultimately made the Middle East a much less stable region and created the refugee crisis in Europe.

I bet Tony Blair super regrets following the US into Iraq.

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u/Sad_daddington 6h ago

Welcome to the side with universal healthcare, mandatory paid leave, paid parental leave, and chocolate that doesn't taste like powdery puke!

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u/HealthySun1654 2d ago

Because America elected a rapist

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age249 2d ago

They did, but what he is doing is fucking treason. This stunt he is pulling with these threats serve the interests of our enemies only. He must be impeached and removed from office or he will destroy us all.

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u/Street-Substance2548 2d ago

GOP won’t do it, but they’ll admit in interviews that they should.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age249 2d ago

They probably won't even do that. A hallmark of authoritarian rule is the rise of snitch culture. Why report on disloyalty for news clicks when you can trade that info to the authorities for better access and other privileges. We are at the cusp of a nightmare and no one will be able to save us from ourselves.

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u/Street-Substance2548 2d ago

Sad, isn't it?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age249 2d ago

It is a tragedy that will be spoken of for a thousand years, I don't think sad properly encompasses what is going on.

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u/LegitLolaPrej 2d ago

Nah, they won't admit it in an interview, but they'll definitely write a book about all the things they heard him say behind closed doors 🙂

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u/Street-Substance2548 2d ago

Heck, remember when Turtle Mitch McConnell openly acknowledged that Trump was the cause of the Jan 6 riot? He chose to vote 'not guilty' anyway in the Senate trial after Trump's first impeachment:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/13/politics/mitch-mcconnell-acquit-trump/index.html

If the Senate GOP had actually done their job there would be no Trump presidency, because that's the only legal way he couldn't be President.

They're stuck with him, when they could have run a younger person.

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u/BenderTheBlack 2d ago

He’s not even in office lol

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age249 2d ago

And the damage he is doing to our country is immeasurable and ongoing. He must be stopped.

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u/BenderTheBlack 1d ago

I disagree. America First baby!

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age249 1d ago

How does threatening a country's that has been fighting at our side since before 911, that gave us the lives of dozens of its sons in our wars, how is that putting America first? How is repaying their loyalty, loyalty that is measured in blood, by trying to steal their territory, putting America first? Explain that one to me...you can say America first, but doing shit like that only hurts us.

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u/JoMD 2d ago

Can't they just send some MI6 to take care of this matter?

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u/Sink-Em-Low 2d ago

In reality, the UK would publicly embarrass the US government by leaking classified intelligence VERY sensitive to the Trump presidency, and the CIA would help to expose more info they have on the US military.

The UK would take ownership of the leak through various means but without allowing the WH to blame them.

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u/smytti12 2d ago

I honestly believe the American voting populace has been so...systematically desensitized to morality in their politicians that not much could be released to impactfully embarass a Trump presidency.

And it's humiliating to the entire nation.

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

The problem is, the people supporting Trump had their shame surgically removed, and replaced with more avarice.

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u/Justgiveup24 2d ago

Videos have an effect. Just saying. Video of Trump getting peed on by prostitutes might actually have an effect.

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u/PersimmonHot9732 1d ago

Doubt it. They could have videos of him raping babies and Trump supporters would say “yeah, I don’t support that, but what about illegal immigrants?”

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u/WaterOk7059 10h ago

They will say it's AI or something and cope even more.

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u/smytti12 2d ago

I don't know, access Hollywood tape seemed pretty damning.

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u/Justgiveup24 2d ago

To normal folks yes, but that was just a hot mic, and they all hate women anyways. Him getting pissed on on camera might just be too much for them. Or we’ll get a bunch of videos of maga idiots pissing on eachother in support of either way it’s a win 😂

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

CIA would just remove their Discord bots from World of Tanks.

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u/PersimmonHot9732 1d ago

Haha, what could they possibly release that is enough worse than what he’s already been accused/convicted over?

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u/Ok-Presentation-2841 2d ago

We have JTF2 that could take care of this problem easily.

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u/GiftedOaks 2d ago

Imagine being a secret service dude from the Obama administration, and now you're protecting Trump from JTF2

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u/JoMD 1d ago

All it takes is sneezing at just the right moment, or having to bend down to fix a shoelace

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u/Frequent_Ad_5670 2d ago

There is a reason why it has not been revealed yet who the next James Bond is. He‘s probably around the D.C. area on January 20th.

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u/NotGeriatrix 2d ago

does the "license to kill" include heads of state?

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u/Big___TTT 2d ago

No one learned from the first 4 years of Trump

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u/16BitGenocide 2d ago

Plenty of us did, just not enough, unfortunately.

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago edited 1d ago

How did Americans manage to forget so quickly that he destroyed the US economy in 2020 with his mishandling of the covid pandemic?

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u/SizorXM 1d ago

What country’s economy wasn’t harmed by Covid?

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

What does this have to do with my question?

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u/SizorXM 1d ago

You’re acting like the economic impact of Covid was due to an individual nations leader. What leader didn’t have economic issues due to Covid?

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

Covid was the worst pandemic in a hundred years. Its not a coincidence that it happened during Trump's term.

Traditionally, the US does a collective response to nip pandemics in the bud because past administrations understood that viruses don't care about international borders and will spread uncontrollably if not acted upon fast enough in coordination with the relevant countries.

The reason why covid became so bad is that instead of him doing all this, he simply banned flights between china and the US and then went golfing.

Oh that reminds me. He's going to pull the US out of the WHO to ensure that the next time a new virus shows up it will cause a worse pandemic than covid. You voted for this.

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u/SizorXM 1d ago

So other countries responded better right? Which ones since Covid only happened because of the US president. I’ve also only ever voted blue, I’m just not a partisan zombie that ignores the facts. No country, conservative or liberal, did much better or much worse than the US in regards to Covid

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

Other countries aren't global superpowers capable of wielding influence on a global scale.

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u/SizorXM 1d ago

You think the US was responsible for a foreign disease because of their global influence? Do you understand how delusional that is? In a magical world where no American could get Covid it still would have spread globally because it was running rampant in a major power with over a billion people in it.

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

no, but they are the ones who had the power to nip this in the bud, as they have done many times before Trump.

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u/Debs_4_Pres 1d ago

The fascists learned plenty 

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u/BrewskiXIII 7h ago

They learned that he was way better than what we had the past 4 years.

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u/USSMarauder 2d ago

More like Trump will be the reason the UK goes back to the EU

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u/Aromatic-Deer3886 2d ago

America is really playing into Putlers hands with this bullshit.

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u/SolomonDRand 2d ago

Nope. Remind me, when Trump proposed annexing Greenland the last time he was in office, how many studies on the subject were commissioned or bills were passed? As I recall, there were none. Trump loves talking shit, but he hates actual work, so while he was happy to run his mouth about this bullshit, he hasn’t done anything that would actually make it possible. If Trump actually starts seriously pursuing military action to steal Greenland, I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s the last straw that leads to Vance invoking the 25th amendment and putting him out to pasture.

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

The problem is, "last time" he was surrounded by buffoons, con men and incompetents, and his attempts at anything were tied up in courts for most of his presidency, and then struck down by a finely balanced Supreme Court.

Now his only buffon is Musk, and he's got a whole host of competent legislators on his team, as well as the Supreme Court in his pocket with a writ to do whatever he wants.

Anyone thinking this is "more of 45" is likely going to be horrified in 2 years. Vance is a "billionaires and techbros" puppet, and they actually want US expansionism, because it allows more unfettered access.

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u/SolomonDRand 2d ago

Don’t get me wrong, I’m worried about the bullshit they’re going to get up too. I just think it’s a lot more likely that’s going to be looting the place and passing a bunch of regressive theocratic bullshit, not conquering Greenland.

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

Conquering Greenland, and "attempting to conquer Greenland" are vastly different things, but both have massive implications. One is unlikely, the other is ... in Trump-World... likely.

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u/bobjoylove 2d ago

Where’s your cheaper food and ACA replacement?

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u/Montreal_Metro 2d ago

Don't take orders from the fake US president; Putin's puppet.

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u/0rder_66_survivor 2d ago

no they wont..

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u/Iamthepaulandyouaint 2d ago

The yanks gave it their best shot generations ago. The Brits and Canucks were outnumbered 20 to 1 and sent them back to reality.

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

Weird. Last time the US declared war on Britain, they lost, and were shoved back into the lower 48...

You didn't win, your White House burned.

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u/BenderTheBlack 2d ago

If there was hypothetically a hot war with Canada and UK on one side and the US on the other, the US would fold UK and Canada inside of a week

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u/Professor_Jamie 1d ago

The issue here is that you’re making far too many assumptions. While the US undoubtedly has the numbers, there are countless variables that complicate the notion of an easy victory. For one, logistics alone would present a nightmare. The US relies heavily on the UK to head up strategic operations in joint endeavours, not to mention the billions it spends annually on advanced military technology sourced from British companies.

Beyond that, you seem to overlook the fact that the UK and Canada are geographically and politically entrenched allies with decades of military cooperation, world-class training, and extensive intelligence networks. Claiming a simple US victory feels less like a measured argument and more like a playground boast of “my dad’s bigger than yours”

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u/BenderTheBlack 1d ago

What assumptions am I making? That the vast majority of Canada’s population hugs the US border and would be relatively easy to occupy? That the US Navy owns the oceans? These are facts.

If the US really wanted to forcibly annex Canada, there would be zero military intervention from Europe, it would just be a lot of crying. Because they understand that any potentially hostile force would never make it close to the eastern seaboard

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u/Professor_Jamie 1d ago

The assumptions are plain to see—starting with the idea that simply hugging the border makes Canada easy to occupy. The size of Canada’s terrain alone would make it an absolute logistical nightmare, not to mention the fact that Canadians aren’t exactly known for rolling over without a fight. And while the US Navy is powerful, claiming it “owns the oceans” is a bit rich. The Royal Navy, with its state-of-the-art submarines and carriers, is hardly a spectator in these waters, and let’s not forget Canada’s Arctic sovereignty—good luck navigating that.

As for Europe “just crying”—come on, you don’t seriously believe that, do you? The UK and Canada are NATO allies, bound by treaty, and history shows Europe doesn’t exactly sit on the sidelines when it comes to defending its own. The UK alone contributes advanced military technology the US depends on, so upsetting that balance wouldn’t exactly end well.

And the suggestion that no “hostile force” could approach the eastern seaboard? That’s pure Hollywood. In the real world, Europe’s alliances, advanced tech, and intelligence networks would make such a conflict far messier than this one-sided fantasy.

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u/BenderTheBlack 1d ago

The size of Canada’s terrain is irrelevant. Barely anyone lives there. Don’t need to occupy anything other than the major cities which would be easy.

The US Navy absolutely would dunk on the Royal Navy, our ships our better than theirs and we have a lot more of them.

The Arctic is irrelevant, why would the US need to go there?

The US is not dependent on the UK for military technology or support so that’s completely irrelevant.

History shows that Europeans aren’t even good at defending Europe by themselves much less defending a nation across an ocean full of hostile US Navy vessels

The idea that there would be any real contest for control of the Atlantic betrays your lack of understanding of how things work. Europe is completely unprepared for any war especially one across the Atlantic with the US

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u/Professor_Jamie 1d ago

It’s bold of you to dismiss the sheer size of Canada as “irrelevant.” Occupying major cities might seem simple on paper, but sustaining control across such an expansive and varied landscape would stretch logistics and manpower to breaking point. Ask anyone who’s studied history: wars aren’t just won on the battlefield—they’re won through supply chains and strategic endurance.

As for the US Navy “dunking” on the Royal Navy, let’s not be so hasty. While the US Navy is larger, the Royal Navy’s cutting-edge capabilities, including Astute-class submarines and Queen Elizabeth-class carriers, make it far from a pushover. And dismissing the Arctic as irrelevant? That’s curious, considering it’s becoming a strategic hotspot with increasing geopolitical competition over resources and trade routes. You might want to rethink that one.

Claiming the US isn’t dependent on the UK for military technology or support is, frankly, laughable. The F-35 jets, for example, are the result of joint development. And the intelligence-sharing partnership of the Five Eyes—where the UK plays a leading role—is critical to US security. The UK isn’t just a minor player; it’s a cornerstone ally.

Now, onto Europe. Suggesting Europeans aren’t good at defending themselves ignores the realities of NATO, which has successfully deterred threats for decades. Also, the idea that the Atlantic would be uncontested is naïve at best. The combined naval forces of NATO, led in part by the UK, wouldn’t exactly sit idly by while the US tried to steamroll its way across.

Your argument boils down to overconfidence in size and dismissing the complexities of modern warfare. Wars aren’t won through sheer bravado or numbers alone; they’re won through alliances, strategy, and technological innovation—all areas where the US wouldn’t have the monopoly you think it does.

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u/BenderTheBlack 1d ago

Considering how close the major Canadian cities are to the US border, I think you’re vastly overestimating how difficult logistics would be. Canada’s capital is under an hour drive from US territory. We’re no strangers to occupying cities.

UK has a measly 2 carriers, each of which are worse than one of the US’s 10. Astute’s and Virginia’s are roughly comparable but the US has 25 compared to the UKs 8. It’s not even a contest lol.

The arctic is essentially irrelevant to this conversation, if it came into play, the US would in it as it does now.

F-35 is, first and foremost, an American system mostly developed by American countries. If anything, it’s the UK and Europe that is militarily dependent on the US, not the other way around

The reality of NATO is that it is mostly reliant on the US for defense and has been since in conception. Again, NATO’s “navy” is largely the United States’ all of the other member’s combined naval strength wouldn’t come close the US’s. This is a known fact

That fact that I have to break this down for you really betrays the fact that you don’t understand military power or how dependent the EU is on US military strength

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u/Professor_Jamie 1d ago

Ah, the classic overconfidence in size and firepower—it’s predictable, but let’s break it down. Yes, Canadian cities are close to the US border, but “occupying cities” isn’t the same as controlling a nation. Logistics don’t end at rolling tanks across a border; they include supply lines, managing civilian resistance, and sustaining forces in hostile terrain. Canada’s geography, with its vast wilderness and infrastructure challenges, would turn your “easy occupation” into a logistical quagmire.

As for your obsession with naval numbers, you’re right that the US has more carriers and submarines, but war isn’t Top Trumps. The UK’s two Queen Elizabeth-class carriers are not built to rival the US’s Nimitz-class—they’re part of a broader, highly integrated system that includes Astute-class submarines, Type 45 destroyers, and unmatched intelligence and electronic warfare capabilities. Quantity might win parades, but quality wins battles.

Dismissing the Arctic is short-sighted. It’s a region of growing geopolitical importance, and Canada’s Arctic sovereignty is a critical factor in any defence strategy. The US doesn’t “own” the Arctic—it shares it with allies like Canada and would be far weaker without their cooperation.

On the F-35 point, while it’s true the US played a leading role, the UK was integral to its development and remains the only Tier 1 partner, contributing key technology. Military interdependence works both ways—pretending the US is the sole provider ignores the reality of modern alliances.

And finally, NATO. Yes, the US contributes significantly, but NATO is not just “the US and friends.” The combined forces of NATO allies, especially those of the UK, Germany, and France, provide critical capabilities the US alone cannot replicate. Suggesting the US carries NATO entirely is as inaccurate as it is arrogant.

Your analysis leans heavily on raw numbers, but wars aren’t won on paper. Strategy, alliances, and the ability to adapt matter far more than simplistic headcounts.

How many wars has the US actually won on its own? Not many. The American Revolution? France. World Wars? Allied forces, led in part by the UK and Commonwealth. The Cold War? NATO. On its own? Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan—shall we go on? The “world’s greatest military” tends to shine brightest when it has a team to lean on.

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u/TheOriginalPB 1d ago

Look up Operation Skyshield. The US asked the UK to conduct simulated nuclear attacks on the US to see if they could stop them as they touted their success rate at 99%. The UK flew two squadrons of Vulcans into US airspace completed undetected, carried out simulated bombing raids on major cities and left without a trace. The US was so embarrassed they covered it up for decades.

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u/Chops526 2d ago

MMW, the whole thing is a distraction to keep us all distracted. Like last time.

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u/Previous_Scene5117 2d ago

I did some digging into the sovereignty matter. Turns out that hypothetically the Royals have the last say. For eg. if parliament/government of Canada or UK under influence of foreign actors would set itself to cease independence and sovereignty to another party, then Crown could intervene and take over the power of state and remove government. As monarchy has constitutional sovereignty and it is last and final resort of power of the state. Traditionally it sits in the back seat, but legally could still claim the power, especially in the UK which doesn't have formal constitution. In situation like that the people could stand against monarchy in case they support government or the parliament but it would have to be act of dissent and revolt. Simply monarchy would have to have enough support on its side to hold the power. Otherwise they could be simply overthrown (happened in the past).

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u/Street-Substance2548 2d ago

Nah, Trumps just bloviating as usual.

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u/ProsthoPlus 2d ago

I'm from Michigan and I really don't give a fuck. Please don't make me have to give a fuck.

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u/AllNamesAreTaken86 2d ago

What does "close to having a spat" mean exactly?

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u/Sink-Em-Low 2d ago edited 2d ago

Telling the US and the Pentagon privately to go fuck themselves if they think Canada will be invaded. Warn the US that 5 eyes will turn on the US and the CIA are expelled from Europe Britain and ANY shared operations...

Advise to WH that we will expose any kind of embarrassing secret the UK holds on the WH and order the UK intelligence services to begin a proxy war with Washington.

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u/CharlesHunfrid 1d ago

One Geordie could annihilate the entire United States unarmed

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u/Sink-Em-Low 1d ago

They're got war drums 🥁....the thieving bastards

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u/GGTrader77 1d ago

Don’t care about the post, downvoting for ai slop

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u/Calm-Box4187 1d ago

No. That won’t happen. They’ll fall in line as usual.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall 1d ago

If Canada became a part of the USA, would that make King Charles Head of State of the USA? Because that would be hilariously funny.

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u/ComedyOdg 1d ago

F that AI art, pay an artist rather than raise global temps with that bullshit

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u/UsErNaMetAkEn6666 1d ago

You don't understand the situation. Canada litrally needs over 200 billion in subsidies from other countries in this case the US to remain afloat. Trumo simply doesn't want to be sending free money in return for nothing its ridiculous that it was even happening. So its either crumble on your own or join us and we can utilise what you bring to the table in return for the subsidies. But only a state should have that privilege. Not some other country.

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u/Typical_guy11 1d ago

Nobody will go to any war, it will be some diplomatic shitshow to distract from other things.

I would never believe in possibility of war.

Still seeing usa becoming world pariah could be funny to watch.

I only wonder how goverment of my country would behave? Still licking us butt in every possibility or maybe only after dolan's bath...

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u/rimshot101 1d ago

If this AI image is correct, It looks like the US will be using Confederate soldiers to refight the War of 1812.

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u/Vivid-Ad-4469 1d ago

Disagree. UK is US' bitch now and has been for a long time. UK is just the remnant of a fallen empire that is one big crisis away from becoming a new Argentina. To survive it must keep it's financial industry alive and to do so it has to play ball with the US. If the US call UK's bullshit on paper gold its game over (there isn't enough physical gold to honour all gold certificates that the UK finance created)

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u/t4skmaster 1d ago

Nah, gutless shits all around are going to buckle to the asshole for fear of a trade war, because brexit demonstrated all you have to do is tell people that things will get cheaper or more expensive and you can get them to give up just about anything. He walks away with a win.

People are too gutless, spineless, and money driven to defend their country anymore. Look what America did.

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u/KomradeKvestion69 1d ago

Hmm never seen anyonhold rifle ammo in a quiver before...

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u/The_Nunnster 1d ago

We’ll never let the old flag fall!

For we love it the best of all!

We don’t want to fight to show our might

But when we start we’ll fight, fight, fight!

In peace or war you’ll hear us sing:

“God save the flag, God save the King!”

At the ends of the world, the flag’s unfurl’d

We’ll never let the old flag fall!

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u/LiberalismIsWeak 1d ago

Britain too busy ignoring mass rape gangs

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u/AngryMillenialGuy 1d ago

Absolutely won't lol

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u/vulpinefever 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why are you getting Britain involved in this? Why not France or Spain or any other country? This post is absolutely fascinating to me because it's like, wrong but wrong in a way that requires at least a basic, surface level knowledge of Canada's political structure but not enough to full grasp it.

Canada is completely independent from the UK now in every way. Canada is as independent from the UK as the United States is. If the UK tried to pass a law that impacted Canada, it would have as much force as if Spain did, which is to say absolutely none.

This also isn't just because the powers of the King are ceremonial in nature and exist entirely as a legal fiction because Canadian (and all Westminster-style) parliament is deeply rooted in tradition where you do a lot of stuff just because "we've always done things that way" like how the speaker of the house of commons is dragged kicking and screaming to their chair or how the finance minister always wears a new pair of shoes on budget day or the elaborate ceremonial law they pass at the start of each session that asserts parliament's authority over the crown. Most importantly though, the King of the United Kingdom doesn't have any power in Canada, even ceremonial, instead it's the King of Canada who has those (imaginary) powers. They're different crowns that happen to be held by the same person. Canada could decide to start electing their king or they could make Celine Dion queen for eternity with a simple constitutional amendment that couldn't be stopped or vetoed by the King.

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u/Nheteps1894 1d ago

Just for that? Not for Elon wanting to take Britain too?

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u/Wild_Coffee3758 1d ago

Fuck off bot

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u/WhyAreYallFascists 1d ago

Guys, come on, we aren’t doing anything with regards to Canada. Lil T could be sentenced to prison tomorrow, he’s trying to distract.

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u/porky8686 1d ago

Britain doesn’t give 2 fucks about Canada… they’ve let the Yanks get away with literally everything from continuing to enslave ppl based on race long after it was in vogue to destabilising or invading commonwealth countries because they didn’t like the regime. We ain’t got that clout.

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u/EconomyKing9555 1d ago

Fun facts:
Canada has been independent from the UK since 1982, when its constitution was repatriated.
The de facto head of state is the Governor General, who is appointed by the Prime Minister.

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u/St33l_Gauntlet 1d ago

MMW: No, the orange moron isn't gonna invade Canada, or Greenland or Panama. By know you should know about his tendency to constantly make unhinged tweets and statements. You think the president of the US has dictatorial powers? There are more than enough not insane people in charge of the military and intelligence offices that won't allow that to happen.

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u/Spongegrunt 18h ago

Actual British people own less property in their capital than foreigners hahaha you can't stop boats of invaders landing at your shores. Yeah, you can't stop our plans.

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u/Equivalent-Fan-1362 11h ago

Hmm funny to see Britain in the shoes we were once in. Honestly I don’t see 90% of the shit Trump says panning out or getting past his office.

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u/Used_Door_2650 7h ago

I think the UK should take back America. We gave them a go at running it themselves and they fucked it right up, it's time for a more civilised approach.

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u/dj_conrad 5h ago

Will never happen.

United States of America is larger and longer than Donald Trump and the Republicans. United states is a country for 1,000 years more and after. We will have to collectively think long term ahead. But at the current situation it appears the current republican administration is only thinking what's going to benefit them, themselves, perosnally in the next 4 years rather than the United States, their citizens, sons, daughters and allies in the next 1,000 years.

Defend Ukraine = Weaking the last European POWERFUL authoritarian regime since hitler..... = killing China's chances of taking over Taiwan... = The collapse of the authoritarian offpsring regimes that rely on Russia/China collapse like Belarus and North Korea... = A more succesful path towards a planet free from authoritarian/dictatorship ideology.

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u/dj_conrad 5h ago

Also.... Scotland Forvever (alba gu brath)

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u/Melvin_2323 1h ago

No they won’t Nothing is changing with Canada, except a swing towards the Conservative Party

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u/jablonkers 2d ago

So they're going to come very close to having a public spat? How will we know if that happens though?

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u/Sink-Em-Low 2d ago

Secret Intel reports somehow get left in a US news desk, classified documents outlining fired 4 star generals who were pushed aside in March 2025.

January 6th transcripts of Trump personally ordering the CIA to burn the capitol building down.

Hunter Biden assassination attempt by Russian operatives as the Trump Admin looked the other way.

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u/GoodfelIas 2d ago

I'm all in on the bet that this shit never happens

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

When the PM doesn't offer Trump high tea, shit's getting real.

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u/perringaiden 2d ago

Gotta say, I don't think Britain will be the biggest of your worries. I'd be looking at the "Geneva Convention Rule Generator" country itself.

Barney: "Haaaaaaave ya met ... Canada?"

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u/Darkthumbs 2d ago

Ahh cmon let them poke the bear

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u/OnionPastor 2d ago

MMW: no they will not

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u/Sea_Divide_3870 2d ago

Then America will take over Britain at the request of the King

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u/Glittering-Cook1563 2d ago

We already had two wars with Britain, and we almost had two more.

Why are we repeating 1800s history???

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u/queer3722 2d ago

I don't see it happening. Labour is too scared to actually confront conservatives.

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u/Free_Roll8970 2d ago

Britain trying to go 0-2 lmao

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u/bobjoylove 2d ago

Defeated by their own army training and tactics is hardly a shame. Especially when the French were putting their finger on the scales behind the scenes.

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u/SecurityPretend9218 2d ago

Technically would be 1-2. They sit 1-1 with us. We destroyed them in 1776 when we gained our independence but we lost at the war of 1812. If there was no Geneva we’d mop the floor with them but because we have to play pattycake the war would go on all of Trump’s presidency plus another 5 years where we’d be kicked out of the UN and NATO and we’d be isolated and completely defeated as a country.

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u/koreawut 2d ago

I'd like to clarify this because in my understanding, this prediction means "Britain" will come very close to acknowledging that Canada is not, in fact, independent? Which will piss off the Canadians...

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u/Sink-Em-Low 2d ago

I.e hands off DJT it doesn't belong to you.

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u/LiveFreeProbablyDie 18h ago

Trump trolling you guys so hard. I voted for trump and he wasn’t being serious about it. Would he if he could? Certainly, but it’s not possible, we’d have to annex it with military. That’s not happening.

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u/Sink-Em-Low 17h ago

A US president should be above trolling fellow neighbours (AND ALLIES) about annexing their lands with military force.

And don't say it's to make the Democrats and leftoes cry woke tears for the lolz. He's now a two term US president and ABSOLUTELY should NOT be even doing this.

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u/Ghastlyguitarist77 8h ago

Boring!

Conspiracy harder dipshit

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u/Careless_Bison_143 2d ago

Britain sucks... Britain is a lost cause. They don't even have freedom of speech over there.

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u/Apple2727 2d ago

I’m “over there” and we do indeed have free speech.

Elon talks shit.

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u/Careless_Bison_143 2d ago

I don't care what Elon has to say.

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u/LrdAnoobis 2d ago

They have more freedoms than the Divided Sates of Merica'

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u/One-Management8057 2d ago

They do not. Please explain. Please don't use the abortion example as it is still legal in most states.

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u/LrdAnoobis 2d ago
  • Freedom to attend school without being shot.
  • Freedom to deal with Police without being shot.
  • Freedom to attend events without fear of mass death and gunfire.
  • Liveable wages.
  • Freedom to go on mandatory paid annual leave.
  • Freedom to have a child on paid maternity leave.
  • Free Accessible healthcare.
  • Freedom to vote without threat of violence
  • Governed by elected officials not billionaires mates.
  • Freedom to remove a Prime Minister if they are not performing or a danger to the country/globe.
  • Freedom of speech. Yes! The freedom of speech exists. However, The civilised world just doesn't accept freedom from consequences of what you say.

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u/One-Management8057 2d ago

First three, are rights. That is why someone goes to prison when they violate your rights. Currently Canada has a violent crime rate 14% higher than the US.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/ranking-crime-in-canada-and-the-united-states#:~:text=From%202014%20to%202022%2C%20the,violent%20crimes%20per%20100%2C000%20people.

Livable wages a right in Canada? Tell that to the people living in a van with their children while they work two jobs.

https://homelesshub.ca/blog/2016/how-many-people-experiencing-homelessness-are-employed/

Paid leave in Canada is only a right for medical reasons. Even Mcdonalds in the US offers that.

Yea the Canadian health care system is such a joke that 5% percent of deaths are literally Euthanasia. Health Care so good they'll kill you if youre sick or even just depressed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1z14p57po

We also have a right to vote without threat of violence.

Their right to remove a prime minister hasn't worked out great. Trudeau has a 20% approval rating and has destroyed the country and he will still be in power until march.

Freedom of speech? You can be sentenced to two years in prison for "hate speech" in Canada. Who desides what hate speech is? The Canadian Government. That is not freedom of speech

https://ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=/context/lr/article/1132/&path_info=moon.pdf

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u/LrdAnoobis 2d ago

I'll wait while you go back and read the original comment. But i was were talking about Britain.

  • Violent crime rate is irrelevant. Canada or Britain, doesn't have daily public mass shootings including school.

  • Again i was talking about out Britain. But everyone has poor people. Everyone has housing instability. But at least they have a mandate minimum wage. America has far more homeless who can't afford vans and needs to rely on tips.

Also Working two jobs means fck all when you work 5 hours at each job in unskilled employment. Context and facts are important.

The UK has far better mandated working conditions than the US. 4 weeks minimum paid leave. 10 minimum laid sick days + paid long service leave, paid maternity leave, compulsory employer retirement find contributions. All considered "minimum working conditions." Some places offer above that.

  • Again, keep up. Britain. The US is the only nation to have "medical bankruptcy". Britain has the NHS. Which similar to Canada and Australia. If you have an accident and go to a hospital, you only out of pocket expense is optional TV rental and your families parking. You're really clutching at straw with the euthanasia champ, that was a weak and mildly irrelevant argument to make.

At least they are choosing end of life care on a free hospital vs. dying at home wishing they could afford to live. That's heaps better???? Wtf is wrong with you?

  • No one in the developed world has armed people in the carpark of voting booths exercising their right to "open carry"

  • back to Britain... they removed Truss because she was useless. Australia removed Abbott because he was useless. See our political systems aren't temporary dictatorships, the leader is accountable to the party and the public.

Again you confuse the freedom of speech. - Which is your ability to say something. With the freedom of consequence. - which is being held account for the harm of what you said.

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u/Quirky_Tumbleweed192 10h ago

The problem with American freedoms is for all the good there's also the freedom for all the bad shit to happen to you. Crippling medical bills, Floridians being told they don't have the right to clean drinking water, insurance companies that don't do anything, shootings, rampant corruption. I could go on and on.

The only American thing I'd like is the selection of guns, but I'd keep our licensing and training requirements.

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u/Frequent_Ad_5670 2d ago

Elon, are you now on Reddit?

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u/Careless_Bison_143 2d ago

Yes... Yes I am. I am going to buy Reddit next.

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u/One-Management8057 2d ago

It's so crazy watching leftist root for Canada and the UK on these subs. I don't have an opinion on whether Canada should join the US but it is true their lives would become objectively better quickly. Canada has been robbed blind by the current government, people there are using food banks en mass, they are being sanctioned by courts under threat of imprissonment over misgendering people, their immigration has completely fucked the economy and social dynamics.

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u/MobofDucks 1d ago

Please elaborate how would canadian lives be improved by being annexed by the US?

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u/One-Management8057 1d ago

I am just beginning my work day so I can't spend all day debating, but how good can a society be if 5% of deaths are literally Euthanasia? Not just for the terminally ill but for depressed people who can't find housing. This is literally Nazi levels of disturbing and disgusting.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64004329

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j1z14p57po

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u/MobofDucks 1d ago

Your second source has the 5% number. But that is for all assisted death cases, with an average age of 77 with people not wanting to suffer for some more months from late stage cancer.

Like hotdamn, someone not wanting to live 2 more weeks after cancer spread to all their organs is not nazi stuff.

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u/One-Management8057 1d ago

The gateway drug of killing people who struggle with mental illness

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u/MobofDucks 1d ago

So your first argument is that they are euthanizing mentally ill people, now that your sources don't have that info you bring the slippery slope argument?

Giving people a choice in their old age to not suffer every single waking minute, is not a gateway drug to kill the mentally ill. Thank you for wanting your family members to have the most gruesome death possible.

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u/One-Management8057 1d ago

Read the article they are doing that

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u/MobofDucks 1d ago

I did.

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u/One-Management8057 1d ago

So the 61 year old def man who went to the hospital because he was suicidal? No terminal cancer there. Why have the expanded this to "chronic conditions" not life threatening conditions? Why introduce legislation to expand this to mentally ill people?

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u/Powerful_Buy_4677 2d ago

MMW: They still remember what happened last time they fucked around with us and will do absolutely nothing

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u/ThePhonesAreWatching 2d ago

They burnt down the white house?

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