r/LoveAndDeepspace • u/redrosejam 🖤 l • 21h ago
You are not obligated to spend now or ever. Discussion
There's an increase in posts about breaking F2P status, and Infold themselves have rolled out a mechanic designed to pressure you into spending, but I want everyone here to know you are not obligated to spend, especially on items that may not have any value for you.
Quite honestly I feel uncomfortable with how this sub can emphasise and reward whaling even when it's clearly unhealthy (like forgoing food to have money for spending on the game) and I want to address everyone feeling FOMO or anxiety over the monetisation of this game.
You are not a lesser player if you can't spend anything on this game. You contribute to the community. I am glad you're here and support you knowing your limits. If you do decide to spend anything or more than you currently do, I hope it's given freely, without feeling pressured by a company or other fans.
It's been a hard year for many of us and this game brings a lot of joy. Please remember that you deserve to feel only joy from this game.
(Updating to say I have removed an example I made that, while anonymous, was too specific, and replaced it with something more general.
The goal of this post was not to target anyone, but to instead maintain that everyone deserves a healthy playing experience, without pressure from Infold, other fans, or even themselves.
I hope anyone who is struggling with that pressure, and may be driven to do things they wouldn't do otherwise, can find the support they need. I've seen a lot of compassion in this thread, and I know you will be uplifted by your fellow players when you express the need for help. I was once the person in that position, and having strangers reassure me that I would be okay was so important for my growth as a person. You're not alone, and you are not the only one struggling. So please, when you need it, ask for help.)
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 21h ago
Honestly I was feeling kinda crappy because I don't think ill be able to get the new memories cus I'm a new player and I'm pretty sure I don't have enough of...anything to get them. But this post gave me a reality check and reminded me...its literally just a game and I can find videos of the memories online. So thank you for this slap in the face, desperately needed it 💀
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u/lenshakin 21h ago
If you're really new, you actually have a better chance as a f2p to get more stuff than veteran players. Most of the rewards are progression one time only rewards. So at the start, you get a glut of content to gain diamonds on.
Later in the game, you need to wait for resets and events.
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u/GlitteringThing7498 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 17h ago
Absolutely this. I wish I joined reddit community sooner when I was a new player and looked up more tips. Cause in the beginning you get so many diamonds and rewards for upgrading, leveling cards etc
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u/SquibblesMcGoo ❤️ l 17h ago
Yes this. I used everything to get Sylus myth pair and now I'm already back to almost 10k diamonds just because as a new player I've been clearing content most players already have
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u/Starfishwave 16h ago
Yep, I came during misty Invasion and wander to wonder. I breeze past getting cards. I did spend money but I can tell the difference now and then. I
You have a better chance of getting what you want. If you don't over spend your diamond and stick to 1 or 2 cards. You have a decent saving left over. Especially if your not rolling on each banner.
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u/Economy_Acadia5704 12h ago
Yup. I got both stylus myth on my new account. Starting had a better advantage cause they toss so many diamonds at you:)
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 21h ago
New player too?! Girl fr, it's such bad timing for us to learn everything while it's just limited events after events lol. 😭
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 21h ago
Frrr a part of me wants to cry about it but I keep telling myself there will be more and surely they'll bring back limited events in the future for new players (might be delusional) there is someone on YouTube who shows all the memories so at least we can still enjoy it 🥲
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 21h ago
I feel you, girl, I feel you.🥺 Let's cry together lol, not only the game is already quite complicated NGL, it's not very generous for us broke girlies imho. Imma tell you : I downloaded the game in the middle of the Sylus myth thing and didn't get anything that was going on and I just watched the memories slip through my fingers. Now I have to pray to hopefully make it this time. YouTube recaps are great but "living" it yourself just hits different 😭😭 , who are you romancing btw ?
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 21h ago
Owning them yourself feels so much better! I only have two 5 star memories (sylus: within reach and zayne: engraved affection) and sylus and rafeyal are my faves. Love them so much omg 🤭
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 21h ago
I downloaded the game for Sylus and now I'm obsessed with Zayne , I have two 5 stars of him (Business Trip and Promise Everlasting) with the recent free one (Engraved Affection). How did you get Sylus? I literally get nothing from this guy, Istg he hates me 😂
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 21h ago
I actually pulled for sylus and used up all my wishes 🥲 but it was so worth it. Never been so captivated by a man's chest before
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 20h ago
bruuuh not the chest bahahhaha😭😭, I have a rough idea of the wishing system but still confused about the "pulling for..." Does it mean that it was during the event you pulled for Sylus?
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 20h ago
Girl idfk I just use the lingo I see and hope I'm using it correctly. But I'm pretty sure it literally just means pulling for the memories. The wishes are what you use and pulling is what you do with them (idk if that makes sense 😀)
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 20h ago
This made me cackle lol 😂😂 yeah I get it, actually someone already explained the whole system to me but everyone says something different, I'm so lost sometimes lol now I see this "Server Reward at 91%" thing in the other sub and I'm like... I pretend I didn't see that lmao
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u/Zyeine 16h ago
When people use the term "pulling" it's usually in the context of using the wish tickets (which are usually the gold, DeepSpace wishes) during specific events where people hope to get a specific memory for their personal Love Interest (LI).
You're literally "wishing" to get a certain memory whenever you use a wish ticket.
The blue wishes are slightly different as they can't be used for what are called the "Banner Events" which are the special events that happen, usually with quite short notice.
When you're on the wish page, you can press the magnifying glass to see which memories you have a chance of getting.
When there's not a banner event, you can use the blue wish tickets for getting memories from the Xspace Echo pool.
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 9h ago
If I don't have any gold ticket for the limited banner event then does that mean I have to spend all of my diamonds for 43 pulls? Also thank you so much for explaining!!
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u/Overthinker_Di6 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 18h ago
I have Sylus' within reach but in the 2nd account not my main account
When I played the memory 🙈 Omg I didn't expect that
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u/relienna 20h ago
I was a new player for the kitty event, barely had anything saved, and still got 2 of the cards. The game is based on luck. Don’t count yourself out, you may get at least a couple of them. ❤️
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u/stray_kitten_xO 17h ago
This! I got all 4 cards for Sylus in his dragon event on sheer luck but I have no Dias now for the next one 😭
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 20h ago
Thank you for the vote of confidence might give it a go and see what happens ❤️
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u/caithrowawayyy 17h ago
Yayy, I joined during that one too! I only got one card but it was Xavier so I was happy. Which two did you get? In hindsight I really wish I had been able to get Sylus as well but didn't have him unlocked 💔
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u/toastea0 Zayne’s Snowman 19h ago
New players get showered with diamonds. That's how I got mine from the last events without spending. Keep playing the game and doing all the dailies/weeklies. And they are showering all players with diamonds for the current events.
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u/Beautiful_Trip7727 18h ago
As an OG from when LADS first came out, I can guarantee you that being F2P is perfectly fine. Ask yourself if the FOMO really benefits your IRL life and only spend if you have disposable income and a job gives you the privilege to pull. I primarily just spend on the Aurum Pass and that's it. And I save specifically for my two boiz, Zayne and Caleb.
I have almost 30k saved up but Aurum Pass helped me a lot. Don't let the whales or those breaking your F2P status fool you. You can beat the content of this game without other cards.
And you can also just watch the cards on YouTube as well.
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u/Critical_Hearing_799 ❤️ | 21h ago
Newer player here too (only level 42 with one week of playing) and I feel you. I see all these 5 star memories of my favs and feel sad I can't pull as often as I want or buy 4&5 star cards from the shop. But then I'm still able to watch those memories on YouTube so I shouldn't feel so bad.
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u/Infinite-Flight2877 19h ago
Me too I had only played 6 months of this game. Ans honestly this was reality check cause I was getting anxiety that I wasn't gonna most of 5 star memories cause I don't really spend on the game besides 5 dollars subscription for extra rewards cause it's not enough to level up the memories. I was thinking of using my credit card because of the special but this help me not to do that. Thank u for the slap in the face that I ne3d today.
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u/AdsMamaWolf 21h ago
Newbie here too and I know I’m not going to be able to get everything I want from this event ( which is my first in this game). I’m praying for reruns in the future
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 20h ago
Finally found my people lol, new players gotta stick together 😭, finger crossed for rerun in 2025 !!
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u/Branypoo |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 18h ago
Honestly, like the player above said, you stand a higher chance of getting what you want out of this event! :) When you first come onboard, diamonds and memories etc all sort of just pile on quickly. I’ve started to reach a slower pace now that I’m at hunter lvl 73, with all LIs in the 60s/very close to the 60s. If you go ham and just gather up all the diamonds you can, I can only imagine the amount you’d save up and be able to play 🤩 Welcome, all new players, and good luck!! 🍀❤️
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u/PETERBPARKR 20h ago
i just started like a week ago and im not too worried, the game throws a lot of diamonds at you at the beginning and if you grind you'll have quite a few pulls, i already have about 4 10 pulls i can do and if i dont get what i want im just gonna buy a cheap reroll acc with a bunch of diamonds since i just started 🫣
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u/lychee______flavored 19h ago
hey, new players are sometimes spoiled to get us hooked playing the game. i started playing less than a month ago and got both of the sylus dragon wish cards on my very first ten-pull. don’t lose hope.
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u/SleepyElsa 20h ago
I just started the game last week and reading this is comforting. We can all watch the videos online together. 😊
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u/LunaFancy 15h ago
Honestly, as a long time player of MMOs I have seen 'limited' items put into cash shops, events reiterated and generally things that were marketed as one time only come back into play months down the track so many times that whenever I see 'limited' I raise an eyebrow and say 'yeah right' by reflex. I am pretty sure they are not going to stiff the new players (and short themselves of possible cash grabs) long term and everything we missed will return next year some time. If yu have the cash and are happy to spend it, more power to you but if you don't and have FOMO, don't worry - you'll rarely actually be missing out anyway.
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u/Technical_Tune_2939 15h ago
See I was thinking this aswell cus logically why on earth would they not bring back memories that people obviously crave? And its so unfair to new players! So I'm not so upset about it. If this game continues and I stay interested in it then I'm sure I'll get all the memories I want. Just gotta play the long game
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u/acayde ❤️ l l l 21h ago
as someone who works on video games academically (though not mainly on gacha) what scares me is how extreme spending is widely encouraged within the community. sometimes this includes boasting with your cards, teams, stats and so forth without being transparent about how much you have spent on the game when, for instance, getting cards to R3 with any limited event banner is pretty much only possible if you're whaling. I don't want to shift the blame mainly to the players however, the very nature of LaDs unfortunately encourages this - it is a gacha game and there is a reason why some countries are starting to look into gacha games to potentially regulate them.
in other words, if you feel FOMO, if you feel bad for not spending, this is because the game really, really wants you to feel this way. In the end, if you have enough money to spend on the game, sure. but the very nature of LaDs as a game resembles gambling in more than just one way and I often feel like the community does not really reflect on this often enough.
don't get me wrong, I love LaDs. I've been spending on it, I kinda love seeing how far I can get while mid-maxing - whaling would defeat a lot of the purpose as to why I play it, other than for the boys of course. Yet at the end of the day I tell myself "imagine if this game was not a gacha" but a full game where you only purchase once and that's it. of course that's impossible - but it reminds me why I don't want games like LaDs to be the primarily monetization model for games.
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u/Beginning-Future-787 ❤️ l 19h ago
I kinda love seeing how far I can get while mid-maxing - whaling would defeat a lot of the purpose as to why I play it
Same! I was min-maxing the first 3 months and spent hours rng-ing battles, it was so fun! Then I got Sylus myth and felt the huge difference in gameplay with a 5⭐ companion. Starting to spend more after that, and feeling some guilt associated with it along with feeling like it would defeat the purpose of my gameplay as well. There's a personal balance in there that I have to find.
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u/MIAkeep 18h ago
Thank you for saying this. I've definitely noticed a culture here where dropping mass amounts of money is totally normalized and I've personally seen comments from certain users looking down on those who cannot or have made the choice not to spend money on the game. During the whole VIP box debacle a few months ago, there was literally one user who kept going around different threads antagonizing F2P players and calling them poor. What's even wilder is that these comments were being upvoted and despite the numerous comments of that nature, mods refused to ban or suspend this person, so it's not just the users who are contributing to this culture, but the people who are supposed to be facilitating civil conversations also seemingly don't have an issue with it?
Of course, if you have the funds to finance that type of lifestyle where you can spend a large amount of money on this game, there's no issue. However, I definitely see some concerning comments here either from people who contribute to that type of extreme spending culture or people who have no financial literacy dropping insane amounts of money on this game.
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u/FitzTheBastard_ l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 13h ago
Your last paragraph is exactly how I feel. LaDs is my first gacha game ever and I'm very glad I discovered these type of games at my age/actual income. I was FLOORED by how expensive it is (like, 129$ CAD for 6k diamonds??), and it is 100% made to push you into wanting to spend so much.
I don't mind how much I spent so far on this game since I can afford it, but there is no way IN HELL I'm touching another Gacha game. It can become very problematic fast.
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u/Straight_Horror_8796 ❤️ l l l 19h ago
Gacha games rely heavily on FOMO, it’s literally a form of gambling.
I agree with you 100% especially the last part when you said imagine if it was just one purchase I think that with all the gacha games I play and in fact it helps me to sit back and really think before I would spend.
Also about the flexing of your cards and everything then not saying how much it costs for you to get there I see all the time on this sub. There will be a player that has a fully ranked five star card and people in the comments feeling like they aren’t doing good enough and should possibly spend when in all reality the people with those stats and cards spend a crap ton of money on the game. Like A LOT of money.
Spending here and there is fine, if your a big whale then so be it, however you do NOT have to spend!! Enjoy the game and anyone that’s reading this please don’t feel obligated to spend ANYTHING.I love LADs but at the end of the day it is a gacha and it will make you want to spend just like any other gacha game.
As well as if you don’t get the card yourself you can always check out YouTube! There are a lot of creators that post the cards there, that’s what I do when I can’t get one so don’t worry about missing out.💞
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u/puppiesgoesrawr 20h ago
A reminder that this game is a gacha game first and foremost, not an arpg, not a dating simulator. They are merely secondary genres made to enable the gacha system. Gacha is a genre designed to mimic the thrill of a slot machine. The limited release of cards are made to stimulate scarcity. The pixel perfect LIs are designed to fit tropes for popularity, and their simulated attentions are aimed to arouse maximum emotional attachment.
Even as f2p, you are still engaging with the gacha mechanics, priming you to be familiar with the same system that paying customers also have premium access to. This behavior releases dopamine in your nervous system, so much so that even when you’re disappointed by your pulls, you still remember that high of pulling the card that you’re aiming for, and so you keep on pulling.
When you feel curious, pressured, or tempted to pay cash for a pull or a box, that’s because the game is designed to train users to feel that way. It’s not because you’re a bad person, or lack discipline/self control, so don’t feel too bad for either spending or not spending. Whales and f2p are valid playstyles.
This may be a cynical POV, but sometimes understanding the mechanics can help people curb their impulsive spending.
At the end of the day, we are trading money, attention span, time, and effort for what amount to entertainment. Prioritize the things that matters to you so you can manage your resources so it’ll will benefit you the most.
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u/Sayoricanyouhearme 💛 | 14h ago
Honestly this should be pinned or copied and pasted every time there's a new banner. I don't think it's cynical at all, it's realistic and breaks down exactly what the gacha system is meant to do underneath all the romance tropes and parasocial relationships we make with the guys. I'm all for romance but I know at the end of the day it's a game and none of this is real, certainly not worth going bankrupt for.
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u/aepoyi ❤️ l 21h ago
don't forget you can watch the memories on YouTube and there's some streamers out there that pull and watch the memories for those who are unable to afford it as well! that's how I beat the FOMO
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u/bookishowlet ❤️ l l l 20h ago
Honestly, watching streamers pull live and reacting to the cards can be even more fun than just getting it yourself. It's so fun to react with the community over it.
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u/aepoyi ❤️ l 19h ago
yess it's like a party or a big event lol! I know what I'm doing the 31st 💃
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u/bookishowlet ❤️ l l l 19h ago
Same, I have limited gems so I probably can only pull once or twice, but it's not going to keep me from fangirling with everybody and being involved in the excitement!
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u/FitzTheBastard_ l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 13h ago
One of my favorite part of Love and Deepspace is seeing streamers gets as unhinged as me while playing those cards LOL.
My favorite is LexyTV if anyone want to try one, she and the people watching her are hilarious. She will stream on the 31st for anyone interested.
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u/ConstantEconomics719 Zayne’s Snowman 18h ago
Can u dm me the streamers u watch for pulls? I need to beat FOMO and focus on saving up for caleb 😭😭
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u/Stunning_Praline_422 ❤️ l 21h ago
ABSOLUTELY! I'm a low spender by privilege that I have the means to use my extra cash in this, but PLEASE, if you can't, I tell you by experience, seeing the cards on YouTube can be just as satisfying!! Please, your wellbeing goes first always girlies, don't forget that!!
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u/SueTheDepressedFairy ❤️ l 21h ago
This is one of the very rare moments where being addicted to something is "good"... Because I don't wanna waste the money I can use to feed my addiction on the game :)
And in a way, at least in my case, it's not as big of a waste of money too. Addiction is saving my wallet somehow
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u/reddit_wallflower Zayne’s Snowman 21h ago
GURL THANK YOU FOR THIS. As a new player, I really thought that spending was mandatory, I mean like ok there are many ways to get diamonds and all but it ain't proportional to the amount that we have to spend when playing. Tho I'm still new to the game and I'll probably find a better strategy like all the f2p girlies out here but anyways TYSM !! <3
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u/Pointlessala 14h ago
Oh yeah I’m sure there’s plenty of f2p girlies out there. But I feel like there’s a correlation between dedication to the game and the amount of money you spend, so people who regularly visit this sub and participate are more likely to also be people who spend. And f2p also naturally pull less and don’t always mention their status.
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u/Sajiri |⭐ Xavier’s Little Star ⭐ 21h ago
I buy the aurum pack, so I’m a low spender, and that’s been enough for me. I’ve not got every card I wanted, but I’ve gotten most. I focus on my two favourites (Xavier and sylus) and I’ve still managed to get all the 5 star Xavier cards that have come out over time, most of the sylus ones.
There’s really no need to spend much or anything on this game, unless you want every single card I guess. But there will be reruns. I started playing back in April, most of my 5* cards are 70 now. If I spent more I could have them maxed out, but like this I always have something to do on the game each day for a little bit.
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u/wont_commentmuch l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 21h ago
I want to add not begging people to buy the pre-sale for server rewards. Ik the gane brought in a lot of new people to the genre and to papergames, but from those of us who have played MLQC/Love and Producer: The server will always reach the server rewards. You don't have to beg people to spend lol. They don't need the added pressure. Yes, even though it is a good deal.
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u/Ok_Scratch8092 21h ago
right! i saw a bunch of tweets saying how embarrassing it is how the europe server was so far behind asia, even though they make up most of the players😭we have 3 days! and even then, it’s fine if we don’t make it the rewards are nice but it’s nothing crazy🙂↕️
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u/Acceptable-Soup5156 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 21h ago edited 20h ago
Not to mention the roll out times are different... I saw people in NA being like why are the rewards % so low... I'm in central timezone... the game opened for me at 6am... but for those people in pacific it was like 4am... like guys chill half the server is still asleep... we'll get there... same for EU.. it unlocks several hours after the china server
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u/Ok_Scratch8092 21h ago
that’s exactly what i thought too i literally woke up to people saying that and i was like damn it just started💀let people wake up first!!
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u/faeriellee ❤️ l l l 18h ago
No literally! I was up at around 6AM on the NA server and it was at 10% if I remember correctly? Now a few hours later, it’s at 80%!! Like let the rest of the world wake up, not everyone is a early riser 😭
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u/wont_commentmuch l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 21h ago
Trust me, you'll always reach them. If mlqc was reaching them in its most dead years, after massive controversy and regular spenders either leaving or becoming f2p, the still fresh and still popular lads will. It might just take a little longer and that's okay. And like you said the rewards aren't super enticing.
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u/Ok_Scratch8092 21h ago
yeah that’s true! i just meant in the unlikely event the goal wasn’t reached it’s really not the end of the world😭
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u/GlitteringThing7498 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 20h ago
I don't think it's embarrassing that we're behind. Personally I bought both pre-sale packs because I need the discounted pulls. But Asia has much wider fan base than Europe, so it's to be expected. We are at 77% with 2 days to go... what's the fuss even about? And our event rolled out hours later... so why people gloat is beyond me.
I'm a low to moderate spender but I don't judge those who cannot spend at all, nor those who can spend far more than me. Always lead with kindness and humble attitude.
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u/SquibblesMcGoo ❤️ l 19h ago edited 19h ago
Game dev here (not LADS but I've worked with community stretch goals before): the targets are always set to a level where they can comfortably be reached. No game wants to flop in front of their whole player base by failing to meet desired community engagement so the benchmarks are calculated ahead of time and put low enough that they can be reached without much stress. They have probably calculated MAU and DAU for each server, weighed in proportion of paying players and then given it an appropriate negative multiplier to account for natural fluctuations in their reach/sales and as a result get a comfortable number that they know they have no issues reaching
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u/wont_commentmuch l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 9h ago
Yep this was my theory because it always reached the rewards against the odds. Tears of Themis had several pre-registration rewards based on number, and everyone swore we would never reach the top reward. We still did at the very last second. It's just a really bad look for a game not to.
A server that can't reach a reward will discourage spending because dolphins and whales might feel the server is in danger of shutting down. So they'd decrease the amount of money they're spending or stop completely.
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u/Salt_Tie_5815 20h ago
Also honestly the server rewards aren’t anything crazy either. The packs are great value IF you’re willing to spend but hitting the milestones is ehhh
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u/Forest_99 ❤️ l l l 20h ago
Exactly the milestone rewards are just mats and a chat bubble(we have many other beautiful chat bubbles) so really it’s not worth spending for
I only did so coz I was already planning to spend akdjdkd
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u/Starfishwave 16h ago
I honestly don't get the hype for the pre-sale server progress. They give just a little material and a chat bubble. It nothing to write home about. If they gave extra wishes like 20 for 100%. Then maybe I could understand the hype.
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u/GlitteringThing7498 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 16h ago
No but the 11 wishes and insane stamina packs are nice to have extra, if one can afford it. I really didn't have enough saved up so I am grateful to have the extra packs. No doubt the reward for reaching the server quota is just a way to hype us ahead of the event.
I am grateful for all the free stuff we are given however.
If we reach 100% I think even f2p girlies will get the server gift.
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u/hilzanne 21h ago
The game is designed to make money for the developers, and they're obviously very good at it! Thankfully, we can live vicariously through each others' videos of the memories we might miss out on.
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u/PlatinumTheHitgirl |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 21h ago edited 21h ago
Thank you for this! The way we're talking about "doing our part" and rallying behind the pre-sale has honestly made me somewhat uncomfortable. I know the people saying that have no ill intentions and they're just sharing their enthusiasm and bonding over something fun, and by no means am I suggesting people should stop that. But I do wish we'd be a bit more mindful of our wording and how we're basically encouraging people to spend (which veeery easily crosses into peer pressuring).
There's new players, young players, and players who can't afford or choose not to spend. Everyone should have their fun without pressuring others and making them feel excluded on the basis of whether they spend money on a video game or not.
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u/wanttothrowawaythev 17h ago
Unpopular opinion, but this is one of the reasons I don't think anyone should be able to play the game until they are at least 18. It's built to be incredibly addicting already without including the social aspect, and if they can't gamble in their home countries at that age they shouldn't be able to do it on a game.
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u/Starfishwave 16h ago
I don't think this unpopular opinion. Maybe for the one who are young. The game should be 16+ or 18+. How this game is allowed to be 13+ is odd. None these kids are allow to gamble and the game is suggestive. I know it the internet but we should have some guard rail in place.
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u/redrosejam 🖤 l 21h ago
I struggled with how to word my post because I don’t want people expressing enthusiasm and supporting the game to feel shamed by me, but I felt like I’ve seen so many lines be crossed without anyone calling them out, and seeing people express sadness, and be downvoted for it, about not being able to participate the events today were my final straw. (And people telling them it was okay while not really understanding how the posts created the circumstances for them to feel bad in the first place.)
Perhaps it’s because I’ve been on both sides of the spending and F2P coin, and have seen the consequences of credit card debt on someone I love very much, but I find this is one of the worst gacha spaces I’ve ever been in in terms of fostering gambling addiction and encouraging unhealthy behavior and that just makes me sad. (Infinity Nikki has already had lots of community discussion on how to avoid FOMO, for example.) I find it so frustrating I’m having to tell people that selling your blood for Love and Deepspace is bad, actually.
I just want everyone to know that they matter and their safety (financial, mental, physical) matters too. I hope people can remember that. I know how strong the pressure is, though, so it feels like a bit of a losing battle.
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u/Oop_awwPants 21h ago
I do not expect anyone else to spend money on this game just because I can, and not do I support pushing people to do so. Let people do it only if they are comfortable.
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u/JellyAcrimony ❤️ l 20h ago
I also saw the post of the person selling their blood, definitely an addiction considering they were doing it twice a week...
I've been playing gacha for years but I'm noticing a lot more peer pressure in LaDs for some reason, it's a bit disheartening to see sometimes.
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u/Jaded-Reputation4965 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 17h ago
Some people have addictable (?) personalities. Furthermore, LADS, as much as I love the boys, can be dangerously addictive due to the emotional connection. It's not 'just' a game. I can see how people who are lonely or in a bad place, use it to fill the void.
Each level up, card, affinity increase, comes with new memories. I mean, if you have a crush, you want to see them lots, right? It's the same thing.OP's post is well-intended, but I highly doubt that random strangers can force people to spend. IRL peer pressure? Definitely! Online? Nope. People are just stating 'their' feelings, they have no obligation to consider that some others can't afford it, unless they're specifically bullying individuals.
I have ADHD and a few years ago I wasn't doing great. A few failed relationships and alone in a foreign country, job losses, no friends. I can see how easily I'd have latched onto something like this. As it turns out, I developed other unhealthy obsessions/habits, that it took a long time to get rid of by going cold turkey. I'm in a much better state now but I'll never forget how it felt. Loneliness and emotional fragility is very powerful, people will do almost anything to soothe it.
My honest opinion is that people in this state should just delete the game. And forget they every heard about it. It'll just make things worse and the impulse is so hard to control.
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u/JellyAcrimony ❤️ l 16h ago
I agree, it's extremely easy to fall into this trap when you're starved for affection/feeling lonely. There's a reason why hosts and hostesses clubs are so popular in some countries and why LaDs' revenue is so high, it's fake love but it does bring comfort to people who need it.
While they can't "force" others to spend, they can 100% influence them into spending. When everyone around you keeps putting money into the game, getting every card available and talking about how worth it a card is, it's not too hard to imagine how someone would want to experience the same thing, especially on social medias where most people are going to be posting their godly pulls (like getting the cards within 10-20 pulls.)
It IS gambling at the end of the day and just like any other addiction, you can be pushed into it by the people around you if you're vulnerable to this kind of stuff. These people genuinely need help if they get to this point though, it's never as easy as just deleting the game.
And I'm sorry to hear about what you went through, I hope you're doing better today!
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u/Federal-Sand-9008 ❤️ | 19h ago
I like to support financially the things I enjoy, be it a game or the work of an artist. That being said, you can support those as well by simply enjoying them. Publicity by word of mouth is really powerful so I agree that no one should feel obligated to spend on non-essential things like game currency. You are already helping the company lots by just downloading the game and using it continuously and no matter how cute a memory is, it would never be more important than your well-being and financial stability.
Enjoy the game responsibly ladies/pals 🫶🏼
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u/ConsciousStatus2975 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 19h ago
Honestly it’s been on my mind that this whole thing is for them to see which servers spend the most and how that could determine whether or not it’s worth it to do things for certain servers. Especially with the whole merch thing. Because the rewards for everyone spending aren’t really worth it in my opinion. Like if it was a mix diamonds the purple ones and red plus the tickets and ascension material. Plus a chat bubble when as the end goal hmmmm. Not that I’m trying to complain heavy.
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u/Deep_Conclusion_5999 🔥🍎🔥 18h ago
I'm hesitant to spend for this reason. They are just limited tickets, so I'm just spending money for a slightly increased chance to obtain the card. And I can get the resources for free if I just do my dailies, so as tempting of a "good deal" as it is, it's not all that different from just being patient.
At least the blue diamonds get you the outfits which cannot be obtained by being f2p.
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u/grxavity Zayne’s Snowman 18h ago
Maybe it’s because I’m poor but I’ve never spend anything on a gacha game. I’m not judging anyone who does, we’re all free to do what we want with our money.
However, I agree with you in the sense that I’ve seen so many concerning tweets about spending on this game. I’ve also seen tweets about folk donating blood so they can spend the money they earned on this game. It all feels very predatory to me, and I’m concerned that some folks could spend all of their money on a game…There’s not much we can do about it, except maybe express our concerns.
Not buying anything in a gacha game doesn’t make me any less of a player. And I want all the new player to understand this too, you’re not obligated to buy anything.
Obviously Infold has an amazing marketing team, hell even I want to buy an aurum pack but unfortunately I’m not in the position to do so.
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u/heyybyyybyyyy ❤️ l 20h ago edited 12h ago
F2P players are as important as P2P players too, even when the game is free from ads, the data information F2P players make when it comes to interacting with the app and the engagement on social media is very valuable for Infold, to make more informative and wise desitions on what people want to see in the game. A business can make money without directly selling to players.
We need to start invalidating ideas... If you go on a diet not because of health issues but because you want to spend on gacha (not only on LaD, but any other game) that's wrong. If you are putting yourself on a debt you can't pay properly without making the rest of your finances unstable to spend on gacha, that's wrong. If YOU SELL PLASMA to spend on gacha, that's wrong... And god forbid someone have the idea to concur on cyber sexual work to spend ON GACHA, that is absolutely wrong. If you are peer pressuring people to spend money on the game they don't have, that is wrong. You don't have to do any of that, absolutely nothing at all for any gacha or any game for the matter, a game is not a necessity, is a luxury.
Last but not least: If you are feeling FOMO for things on the game you can't get, take a breath, be calm and find an extra hobby; when you are busy with other hobbies or responsibilities you'll play the game because is fun and you like it, not because is a responsibility like eating properly, hygiene and sleep, is not. A game shouldn't make you feel stressed, anxious, or sick, is supposed to provide joy, they're not synonymous.
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u/Sawako_Chan ❤️ l 21h ago
I do think many people have an unhealthy relationship with the game honestly , I hope everyone remembers that these are pixels on your phone and ultimately won't help you if you can't put bread on the table cuz you spent too much money on the game ...
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u/weathercause ❤️ l l 21h ago edited 17h ago
I absolutely agree. There will always be a new and better banner to spend money on. That's the entire purpose of the gacha system. Personally, I only ever spend money when I'm close to pity and really can't wait lol. But besides that I don't "value" the cards enough to spend my money so I can guarantee getting them. I have a bunch saved on YouTube and TikTok just so I can view them whenever I want lol
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u/toastea0 Zayne’s Snowman 19h ago
I love the game. But if I felt pressured to spend I definitely would quit playing. I can see why people feel pressured due to the current events and hype. Please do not spend money if you cannot or do not want to! I've seen people make a second account to gather up more chances at cards without spending. Though I've thought about that but I don't need this game to consume my life.
I also wanna add that I personally did not feel pressured to purchase anything with the community posts in this sub or in other social media spaces.
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u/relienna 20h ago
100% agree. I shouldn’t even be spending money on it, but I’m lucky enough to have an allowance for myself and I just need the serotonin. Lol 😅
But if you can’t spend the money, please don’t. It’s not necessary, there is no reason to feel guilty for not being able to “help” with the event, and your livelihood is more important than pixels on a screen. ❤️
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u/meowuki l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 18h ago edited 18h ago
THANK YOU FOR THIS! since this morning i can’t stop seing post about people forcing everyone to spend money for the rewards and saying it’s not that expensive so we have 0 excuses to not buy it and help with the progress
as a F2P player who struggle with money irl i’m sorry but i can’t spend money on a game.. the way all that pressuring made me feel bad and useless a little bit 😭
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u/GlitteringThing7498 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 15h ago
You shouldn't feel that way. If you cant spend you cant spend. At the end of the day your RL matters the most, not some random persons opinion. Nobody should make you feel bad about it.
I'm hyped because I think even f2p girlies will get the gift if we reach 100% on the servers, so I did my share and bought both packs, which are useful to me but help out others too.
If it weren't for how good the packs are I would not have purchased either, I'm a very light spender, I can only afford the aurum pass and secret promise/heartfelt vow every other month.
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u/Mjain101 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 20h ago edited 20h ago
Preach sister! Speaking for myself, even though I broke my f2p gacha player rule for this game, it was with a gift card I got from work, and that is as far as I am willing to go for spending. Work gift cards and none of my own money.
Plus YT has recordings of the full card so you can watch for free!
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u/greenbean181 19h ago
As someone who DOES whale and has the ability to do so, this is a good reminder to all! Don't put yourself in a terrible financial situation just for a game, it's not worth it! You can always find the cards on YouTube after they've been released 🥰
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u/bronzebullbbq 21h ago
I’ve been playing for about two months or so and only just came to check out the sub recently, and let me tell you I was shocked at how blasé the fandom was about whaling. Maybe because I’m a reformed genshin player but I know how to avoid the gacha pit. But a lot of comments here are depressing. Please stop spending hundreds of dollars on pixel men, the memories are online and it’s fun to play without all the spending. Be mindful of how these games are preying on you, literally.
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u/caithrowawayyy 16h ago
Pretty much the same here except I'm reformed from all the way back playing LLSIF 😭 It's insane to me how casually people are talking about spending 100s per month on this... like there's really no world where it's actually worth it, I swear.
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u/ardentanecdotes Zayne’s Snowman 18h ago
I've been playing since the release and I'm very proud f2p hunter. There are still many freebie wishes to enjoy and there will be many more future freebie wishes that will delight us all. 💖
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u/crimsongirrl l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 14h ago edited 13h ago
I feel like for a lot of people this is their first actual gacha game. It’s a learned skill not falling for FOMO tbh so I understand feeling pressured. It takes time to learn how to prioritize and not overspend. Hell I’ve been playing these games since I was eight and am still falling victim to FOMO at times.
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u/sssenorsssnake l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 11h ago edited 11h ago
Bumping this.
I’m a whale myself but that’s only because I can comfortably do so and I’m sure other whales can relate too.
But witnessing the number of recently new F2P players I’ve seen on here and on FB where they say they’re ‘broke but buying it anyway..’ due to FOMO.
Honestly please. Don’t gamble away for 5 minutes of instant gratification unless you really can justify it. You really don’t owe them anything.
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u/Ko0ei 21h ago
Selling blood?!?
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u/crazispaghetti l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 21h ago
I'm guessing they're talking about donating blood, which can be done for money but I could be wrong.
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u/JoaqFan346 21h ago
Thanks for saying this, it's right after Christmas for a lot of us and financially not all of us are in the position to be spending extra cash on the game. It shouldn't mean you're less of a player.
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u/Outsidehelpneeded 21h ago
It depends on how our view about games differs. Some see gacha games as entertainment that require a few bucks and are willing to pay a subscription fee (monthly pass) to enjoy the full benefits. Some see gacha game as a free service with build in transactions, and stay f2p because you can still enjoy it without spending money. It become a problem when people or companys are encouraging non spender or low spender to pay and normalize whaling even though the right thing is to spend within your means.
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u/isharoulette 19h ago
I feel happy knowing the money I spent I earned by taking photos of my grocery receipts for a month so nothing of value was lost for those 50 cents 😂
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u/Idknowidk 19h ago
Also. You can see the little special scene of 5 minutes on YouTube for free, how many time you want and… farming to lv up a memory at max level is still a disgusting experience. Just by reading my own comment I already don’t care a bit about the next gacha banners and the FOMO about it lmfao
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u/gotthesevens 🤍 | 18h ago
honestly i hope loads of us complain about this server event during the next survey, i do not want them to do this again
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u/fantasyiez 18h ago
If you do online surveys you can easily make 10 USD a day, it’s what I use to buy the monthly pass and Secret Promises. Nothing wrong with supporting LADS it’s one of the more generous gacha games out there and the prices are quite fair for what you get. The more people spend the longer the game can continue on. Just be mindful of how much you’re spending if you don’t have disposable income.
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u/Tashas12 19h ago
F2P players need to remember that whales don't come to a dead game. It is the free players who create the information background, the sincere advertising and the general atmosphere of life that no one, even the most brilliant marketer, can create.
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u/fauxnoah ❤️ l l 19h ago
I think I fall into the Dolphin category, but I do a lot of planning and budgeting before each Limited to decide if it’s worth it to me. I also feel very privileged that I have the disposable income to spend on this game each month but it is absolutely not a necessity. It is sad that some players feel the need to go to extremes to pay for the cards (they’re on YouTube!), but I can’t be all that surprised as all gachas are most certainly a form of gambling 😔
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u/nivia-chan 18h ago
Don't let the gambling addiction get you or their tries. In the end it's just a JPG that moves and if I can't afford a JPG, I'm not spending. I don't need it and FOMO can be so strong, but everyone stay strong. I'm semi new by playing around only 100 days, I don't have the mats to upgrade new cards, I have enough of a backlog to level and thinking rationally keeps you grounded. We got this! Best of luck for our rolls
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u/e-s-p-r-e-s-s-o 17h ago
Honestly, I'm satisfied with just playing kitty cards and spending time in the photo studio
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u/Daydreamer12 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 15h ago
Thank you for saying this! I've always been in the mind of to never spend above one's own means. And it is worrying when I see people say they are intentionally going broke over this game or skipping meals. Some are joking and some probably aren't, but it's the internet and we, unfortunately, can never truly know.
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u/fairly_obstinate ❤️ l l l 12h ago
I was a genshin, honkai star rail and tears of themis, day 1 player. I have whaled/bought at least monthly passes and battle passes on all of them. I burned out of tears of themis in a month, because of lackluster gameplay. And I stopped supporting the other two in the past year because of the lack of diversity, absence of male characters, and frankly burnout. I had some disposable income, so I don't regret supporting the game when it was fun. But that's a reality you have to think of when playing gacha games. At some point, you might stop playing, or the server might go down. You don't physically own a copy so to speak. So only spend as much money as you won't regret having done so in the future.
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u/Depressed_Weeb911 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 10h ago
I was initially frustrated that I can't spend on the game because the shop literally is unavailable in my country 💀 But coming across your post, It's definitely a reality check for me. Like I only have a little saving and I need to spend on food for me to survive uni dorm. Honestly, I only buy the Aurum pass from third party website and only spent like twice during Rafayel's Sea God myth and in one of the triple banner (no Sylus yet). Recently, I've been playing the game smartly by saving gems and dias - only pulling for Rafayel fishie husband 💜
I also save smartly on Genshin. Even though I have a lot of 5* charas but I always have to comeback to the weapon during rerun. But I'm lowkey proud of my spending records - only spent on Raiden 1st banner, welkin and rarely battlepass.
Honestly, I'm proud of spending less in the games though I actually spend more on the merchandise but I could still survive since the merch isn't as expensive as the in game currencies.
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u/Fluffy-Weapon 🩷 | 10h ago edited 10h ago
I started playing one week after the release. I personally had periods in which I spent too much, which I really regret. After spending 80,- in about a week’s time on Rafayel’s myth pair cards, I decided to limit my spending to 25,- a month. It’s been keeping my wallet and me happy. I got every card I wanted so far, except for 3. If you want to spend, do so consciously. Pick an amount that you’re fine with losing each month.
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u/heyybyyybyyyy ❤️ l 21h ago
Excuse me... AND I BEG your finest pardon, but WHO IS SELLING BLOOD FOR MONEY to be spend on gacha?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/Lil_Sherly 18h ago
First of all I want to thank you for this post. You phrased things very nicely ♡, and it makes me happy to see that amidst the recent excitement and agitation this sub has known with the latest update news and all, some are still able to preserve common sense and rationality.
The game has always been clever with its marketing techniques, nothing new there but.. Can't deny that lately a tangible feeling of higher pressure has arised amongst the players especially with the new upcoming event. I'm sure all of us, f2p or not, are equally excited but, we shouldn't let that turn into a burden.
It saddens me whenever I see comments such as "might need to sell a kidney hehe".. I wish ppl wouldn't take selling organs or self harm so lightly.
Ladies, go easy on yourselves. The whole point is to have fun. And stay safe y'all.
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u/kitanathesamurai 18h ago
After not getting Sylus’ myth after spending 60 wishes I saved and getting some random Xavier card I already had instead I uninstalled the app 💀I downloaded it again to try to save up again but it’s tiring being a f2p sometimes
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u/xLittleKittenxx l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 16h ago
This presale was absolutely designed to peer pressure F2P people into buying packs.
Until now, everything has been a personal choice. I buy packs because I want my cards, I’m responsible for getting mats and rewards as an individual.
This presale in a way is incorporating herd mentality. Now, it’s a community thing. Everyone feels responsible for the outcome and suddenly there’s more pressure both from the game and from other players encouraging each other to spend money.
I’m already pay to play, this is my one vice I’m comfortable spending money on. But tbh, this event is kind of a diabolical plot to pressure new people into breaking their F2P streak from the pressure.
I hope they continue to give us awesome discounted packs for presale, because tbh it was an awesome deal. But I wish they had left out the server boost part because it feels kinda pressured. (This is not a diss on Infold, I love them and I know they need to make money… but still I feel bad for F2P because of the community pressure from this)
(I originally commented this in another thread but it belongs here too so I’m reposting)
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u/In_need_of_wonders Zayne’s Snowman 21h ago
Yup. And you can always watch the moments online. So nothing you can really miss! ☺️
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u/astralette_ 20h ago
I haven't spent a single scent on this game cause well i don't have money lmao. I mean i do but i can't spend it on a game, my parents will kill me if they find out. And since i don't spend money, it has led me to not be able to participate in most events and/or get like majority of the limited offer cards. Although it makes me sad that i wasn't able to get a lot of my desired cards, I'm happy watching yt videos of them. 😭😭
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u/Zula_Zul 20h ago
Having played several gacha games, including Honkai and Genshin, I focus on collecting male characters. I find them less popular, making it easier to acquire them without spending money. In this game I'd be in alot of trouble. I appreciate Google Play rewards for supporting my hobby, and I understand the inevitability of power creep. These games don't require payment, and I enjoy watching character memories on YouTube, eliminating the need for personal acquisition. Therefore, if you enjoy the characters and their stories, I encourage you to play and summon thoughtfully, knowing that you can eventually obtain your desired characters when your momment approaches.
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u/ConstantEconomics719 Zayne’s Snowman 18h ago
Thank u for this queen, i need to lock in and save up for Caleb 🙏🙏
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u/FaraYuki09 17h ago
I'm glad I'm a cheapskate and my phone memory is too low. I am honestly just enjoying this community and YT vids. So yeah that's my confession for this community.
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u/Starfishwave 17h ago edited 16h ago
Yes, please don't spend money on the game. If it not in your budget or means to do so. Please remember that gacha games is gambling at the end the day. It suppose to be addictive and create Fomo.
You can always watch a card on youtube. If you unable to spend. Make sure if you do spend money. You have a plan and budget in place for spending.
I hope the person was joking on here about selling there blood for LADS money. We do joke on here about being broke after these banners. So I hope that was the case.
Edit: Just found out was not a joke at all. Please don't sell any part of yourself to fund this game!
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u/_positive_pessimist ❤️ | 16h ago
YES. THIS IS IMPORTANT TOO. I cannot stress this enough, but if you can't spend on games it's okay too. I've been F2P for most free games I played (only a little bit on ZZZ sorry 😔) but honestly there's no shame in being F2P sometimes things just don't work out like that, and that's okay, please prioritize your irl life.
Like for me I admit I might be privileged enough to farm materials, but it's because i'm neurodivergent and I also have a mental illness, so that kinda means I have a lot of free time. I have been on treatment so i'm okay now but I haven't been able to work for two years, i'm slowly getting there but it's baby steps. I don't know about everyone else here, but if you don't have money to spend or would rather save it, it's 100% okay, i'm fortunate enough to have loving and understanding parents that don't mind helping me despite me being 24. But I want to hopefully build a life of my own and stop worrying my parents, and that's worth more than some limited LaDS cards (as beautiful as they are, no offense to the developers) and I know I can, but sometimes that means that I can't spend on everything and that's okay.
Weather you are P2W or F2P, all power to you ✨
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u/Ill-Introduction3016 15h ago
On another note if you have the means to spend and this game makes you happy there’s no shame in spending money on something that makes you happy as long as it doesn’t bring detriment to your stability
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u/Classic-Cup3176 15h ago
It is okay to spend, and it is okay to be f2p. No one is better than the others. Game is an Entertainment, I'm myself a whale. I dont like shopping, going out, etc, my pure entertainment is game and travel. Do what you feel best about yourself, that you feel happy.
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u/burntpankeki 14h ago
that's why I love the people who post the kindled cutscenes online.
I literally do not have that much urge to pull, because I can already get my most wanted content from them.
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u/Economy_Acadia5704 12h ago
I’m f2p and tbh I have a very short attention span.. I’m already kinda bored with the game, but I don’t hate on those that love it and want to spend money.
like u said, there is no obligation to spend.. we’re not at a host club lol.. and Those that spend, remember your spending to support the studio.. ”and to those who really want these banners, just make a new account lol. I have 4. The newest one because they give u so many perks beginning game, I got the stylus myth cards.. all my other accounts nothing. So there are ways if u really want. I have all the cat cards too - is it annoying having so many accounts, yes, but it is a way to just not spend money if u really can’t afford it, and you’re not hardcore:)
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u/PlusWhereas1761 8h ago
Been f2p in this sub feels like a white crow. I'm probably not the only one who disgusts by the pressure to spend? But it looks so
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u/gamergabby21 l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 5h ago
Perfect and timely reminder, thank you OP! Not sure if this is allowed but if anyone is struggling with this pressure and are feeling guilty or less than adequate for not spending, healthygamer.gg is a great resource about gaming and mental health, having boundaries, etc.
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u/Sunnysky119 10h ago
As a dolpin spender, the pre-sale milestone thing is ironically gonna turn me back into an f2p permanently.
I am surprised that there were not that many posts/comments on how manipulative & scummy this whole thing is. (Maybe there were but they got deleted/downvoted)
(I remembered when players were outraged with how low quality Zayne story branch & the quad banners introduced back then. But it seem this new spicy quad banners make players forgot about the whole incident...)
Normally, when games do this milestone event, the player will just need to share a link/write a message/play some minigames etc. This is the the first time where a game literally asked you to spend money just to increase the milestone. Also, they never specific the amount of players that have to buy the packs to hit the milestone. Which make it even more shadier....
Kinda feel like lately Infold Paper send in some spies pretending to be players in this sub to normalize spending in the game. 🤑
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u/papercrowns- 11h ago
Ngl, infold is predatory with how they pressure you to spend but that makes me not to spend even more lol. I stopped paying monthly as soon as I dont feel like having fun in the game anymore. The steep pity and low resources for f2p and no reruns sucks ass. Gunna drop the game again after anniv lmao (came back for syl myth since hes the one i was saving for originally)
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u/Witty_Fix7830 ❤️ l 21h ago
Can you share the link on where you saw someone here talk about selling blood? /gen
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u/Witty_Fix7830 ❤️ l 19h ago
No hate to you but I just wanna know what the context is, like what was your point on that post exactly for you to share about selling plasma?
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u/CupFreakingCake ❤️ l l 19h ago
Just wanted to say, its a hard situation that you are dealing right now. Thank you for being open. Take care <3
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u/redrosejam 🖤 l 21h ago edited 16h ago
I chose the most extreme example, but I have also seen people discuss forgoing food or other necessities, which also illustrate my point. No one should feel they have to do that, much less that they should share that here.
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u/heyybyyybyyyy ❤️ l 21h ago edited 21h ago
That is absolutely wrong, a game shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable, stressed or having a sense of anxiety and panic in any capacity. Much less making you feel you need to shorten your life quality with essentials such as food or be in debt.
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u/Hana_369 18h ago
Imo there’s actually no pressure in doing anything, whether spending or being a f2p. Admit it, guys, some of you might be just obsessed over labels. And It’s not like you can’t progress the game if you don’t pay. Just play the game at your own pace, control your desire, learn to take responsibility for yourself. You define what makes you happy.
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u/caithrowawayyy 17h ago
It's so nice to see some sense around here... Gacha is predatory by design and going broke over the risqué scenes with the guys is just... depressing. I'm not F2P but I try to limit to just the Aurum pass and maybe an extra 10 a month on cheap packs- only because I can afford it.
But it's upsetting to see so many people say they're spending 100s per month 'because they can afford it' cause like girl... c'mon... what about savings? Your future? People can do whatever they want with their money but when you pour money into a gacha game you are simply being played.
I get what I get and what I don't, I'll check out on youtube and life will go on.
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u/Daydreamer12 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 14h ago
I'm one of these types you mentioned, but I actually do have savings. My money goes up monthly despite the amount I spend in the game and after paying bills, and I have a retirement plan in place even if that is still a ways off.
I'm not trying to be rude, but your comment triggered me a little since you're making assumptions we don't have savings or a plan. Perhaps some don't, but it's not all of us.
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u/jentleschreave 17h ago
i deleted the game to resist the temptation. it’s been a few months and counting 🤡.
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u/Syrena_Nightshade 18h ago
I really needed this as a new player. I spent like half of my pocket money on it already. I only do the monthly subscription usually but the new packages were on 90% off 😭
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u/faeriellee ❤️ l l l 17h ago
I’ve felt FOMO more than once on this game (Lumiere, God of the Tides, etc..) and I picked up a new hobby to distract myself or watched videos of the cards/gameplay from feeling down about it. Nobody is lesser because they can’t spend money on a silly little gacha game. I only spent money for the little cake hat and aurum pack because it was cute and I was able to customize more of my game while also being rewarded for it. However, peer pressure is so real for the people who cannot afford to spend on this game. I do spend because I have money left over from getting the things I need, I don’t spend when it’s all I have. I try to be responsible about my money and I really do hope others will be too. (I hope this made sense, im bad at English.)
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u/Branypoo |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 17h ago edited 17h ago
OP, thank you for posting this. I make jokes about going broke to have everything I want from events, etc., but I’m just being extra. In reality, I know my limits. I have to be careful, though, because I HAVE spent too much on games in the past. I’m not proud of it. It felt amazing at the time, but looking back, there’s only some satisfaction that remains, much more regret.
I wish we all had Sylus’ black card so we wouldn’t have to worry about conversations like these lol. Kidding again. You make many valuable points. They’re all great reminders that feel like a very loud and clear warning to me personally, bc I have spent too much and need to keep a clear head. I’m not going to lie… I’m feeling a lot of pressure with this event. I really would like to obtain every card. Like I’m feeling true desire to have them all, yet I don’t want to make dumb decisions. Let’s all support each other, fam. ❤️
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u/chicabonita__ 17h ago
I commend f2p players! I've invested in the game only when I can, and I've had money set aside to treat myself to these events.
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u/CarissaG1103 Zayne’s Snowman 17h ago
That's why I rely heavily on YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram and don't play the game.
Other than the amount of storage it would need to use, being a f2p would be very hard for me and I would not have great self-control when it comes to spending real money.
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u/Pristine-End-5229 17h ago
I just want to also add that for those who have tik tok and you see the cards you missed on there, check if the video can be downloaded and you all have it to rewatch at any time! 🫶🏼
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u/CoinGremlin 17h ago
I just started and swore to be a f2p user, decided to only buy the promo bundle but I won't be blowing a whole check just to see some spicy pixels. Even if I don't get the cards, the extra pulls will help fill out most of the missing memories since I've only been playing for two weeks
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u/Ewigmucho 🔥🍎🔥 17h ago
Actually, even if it doesn't reach 100%, the official will cheat and fill up🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/Ok_Boss_8960 17h ago
This is why I watch these scenes on YouTube. I'm not in the best place to spend because I have dental work I need for my teeth. (my dental insurance can't cover some of it 😬) but yeah I agree I'm not going to worry about the events and I'll take what I get. I'm not gonna complain there's no use to worry about.
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u/theHermitKrab 16h ago
The only time I ever spent real money was on Sylus’ myth card and I made a deal with myself that that would be the first and last time I ever spend money on a game. Because you’re right, at the end of the day, it’s just a game. Bills and groceries are much more important than a game. Besides, there’s people on YouTube/instagram that posts all of their story cards if you really want to enjoy/watch the story. You can watch it through someone else paying for it 😂
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u/MurasakiMochi89 |🧜🏻Rafayel’s Mermaid🧜🏻♀️ 15h ago
Ugh thank you for this....I've seen too many posts like this always spend what you are comfortable with which may be nothing which is absolutely fine
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u/Workaholicholic 15h ago
We can always rely on streamers for the content 🙏 Someone somewhere is gonna have the card you wanna see and they're gonna put it online
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u/BeatrizLBBH Zayne’s Snowman 15h ago
Thank you for this! I literally had to sit myself down yesterday before this pre sale thing rolled out because i was so blinded by all the cool news and the new event that i was gonna spend money on it without even thinking. Like its a bunch ascension materials and a chat bubble thing that's not even that pretty in my opinion, i wouldn't even use it and i was about to spend my money to possibly get it. It's definitely not worth it, and the fact that you can only buy one and that it's before the banner takes place is just a marketing tactic to make you spend unnecessarily because you're so excited for what's to come. Thankfully i stopped myself before i did it. I already spent like 25 euros this month and even though its nothing compared to some people it's definitely not something i should get used to!
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u/peachvoidz 15h ago
Honestly this is how i felt, i felt MAJOR FOMO with the sylus mythics and i still feel pretty sad that i wasn’t able to get both because i didn’t have enough money and Xavier’s cat card was too enticing for me to pass. I did need this post and at least i can watch videos of cards i didn’t get to feel like i got to be apart of them 😭😭
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u/0x1Mae l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 14h ago
This gave me a reality check ty when I saw this banner I felt like I needed to pull for all of them and that would cost me sm money and I am trying to cut back my spending on this game cuz I have some regrets with impulsive purchases due to FOMO. I think from now on Imma force myself to only pull for Sylus and my 2nd Fav Rafayel only in quad banners to reduce my spending and follow my monthly budget :)
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u/ajarjunk 14h ago
yes! this this this! i honestly considered breaking my f2p status for this server progress goal since the pack was quite literally just pocket change… but when i saw the rewards, i was like oh… that’s it? it’s just ascension materials that would prob just save you a few days worth of grinding stamina and a chat box that i wouldn’t use over the other LI specific ones. never ever feel pressured to spend money! at the end of the day, what i love about this game is that you can watch all the memories you want on youtube and still enjoy the content that way <3
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u/Ok_Internal_1413 14h ago
If u feel obligated to spend even when u have no ability to do so, stop playing and touch some grass, find some real lads guy and get them to spend on you instead 🤩
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u/Stxxrs 14h ago
The best advice I can give everyone who’s stressing about the new banner is to just relax and enjoy it. At the end of the day it’s just a game made purely for our enjoyment and if you are a f2p, rack up gems through open orbit and find ways to increase the level of your memories and protocores!! You got this!!
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u/kazuzoha 14h ago
i just recently came back and i don't have any gems saved, this update really broke my f2p status, i am now a goldfish 🥹
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u/_notevenhere Zayne’s Snowman 13h ago edited 13h ago
Omg i’ve been struggling with FOMO sm as i’ve been trying to catch up with what i’ve missed and didn’t even have enough time to even watch the trailers properly(like everyone just seems to have watched it a million times and know every detail and it’s so cool to see but i just feel bad I don’t lol) so it wouldn’t make sense to spend money when I don’t even have the time for it. Not that i could haha. I really want to get all of them but it’ll just be based on luck and this post really made me feel better about it so thank u <3 Update: now that i’m reading the comments they’re also make me feel better. Thanks everyone!
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u/Kenishascraft l 🐾Sylus’s Kitten🐈⬛ 12h ago
Im just trying to do the daily quests every day to get the gems. I can't get the new memories/clothes because I don't really have the cash. But I still love and enjoy the game.
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u/nevergivingup94 12h ago edited 12h ago
💯💯 🙌🏻
I'm not a f2p anymore since I have spent a bit for this game, BUT I make sure to balance it out and only "spend" if I have really extra budget on hand.. as I'm not rich or anything and have financial problems.
So this is more on how we discipline to ourselves. 😌
Because at the end of the day, this game is also a business.. so inevitably earning money is their.. goal and making consumer spend , but they should make sure that they giving us "quality" things.. I'm hesitant to spend anything on game like this, but as a designer myself, I wanted to support the overall art and effort everyone put into the game, also playing this gave is one of the reason that gave me joy during my sad times until now, but I do still feel pressured sometimes because I dont really want to spend more than I can only allot to this game. So , this where we should think first our priorities.. and also at first I was afraid I'll be missing out alot since I'm late to play the game.. but don't worry because new players can experience other benefits and old players will have too, because infold would have to constantly create things that will attract new and old players..
that's why I'm also thankful for this community.. sharing some things that we may not have, and hoping that this game will remain successful.. and fans should try and lessen not to fight over unnecessary things and maintain an understanding community 🙏🏻
This is the only otome type of game that I invested into.. because it has tick all of my checklist , like my delulu over final fantasy and other 3D RPG, or MMORPG games 😅
oh and also I do get frustrated / pressured seeing other players have already finished the deepspace trial or have reached super high affinity! But I just keep reminding my self that We Have Our Own Pace, and its okay.. feeling burnout is normal too ☺️
if I someday became rich,i wanted to share benefits with coplayers.. and helping them enjoy the game too 🥺 oh well , but for now.. just a simple support 😅
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u/Complex_Milk8705 12h ago
Gonna save this to read whenever I feel pressure to spend. Thank you so so much🩷✨
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u/nyxiepixie_ 6h ago
So true!! The only spending I've done is for the aurum pass. Even though I get FOMO sometimes, I know it's not healthy to spend more money on this game. Cause at the end of the day, it's a game not real life. It's not healthy to become attached to it to the point of soft-gambling away your cash. It's so important to take breaks from the game when you think you're getting too obsessive about it
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u/Aggravating-Trip-279 6h ago
From now on I will only pull for myth pairs and not spend on regular memories. I don't enjoy the stories in most cards as they are pretty boring for me, and I can look them up online anyway. Even if the animations are spicy and beautiful it's not really worth spending the gems tbh. At least for me as a very casual player
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u/itsmagical15 Zayne’s Snowman 6h ago
This is such a sweet post thank you so much ❤️❤️😭😭 Me and my friend both aren't planning to spend at all but we feel so broke at times. But it hasn't been long since we played sooo (about two months now however we've been following the updates of the games even before playing it)
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u/WerewolfAcrobatic826 6h ago
I wish there was a way to pin this post, bec I so agree, and this needs to be up for new players and for us more experienced ones to be reminded about.
I’m thankful that, within the first 2 months of my playing, y’all lovely hunters here underlined that this game is gambling that feeds on FOMO. It really helped me set my boundaries in terms of money and time I spend on this game. Your feedback, sharing your experiences and advice helped me curate my experience early on (ie. asking myself what I really enjoy about the game vis-à-vis how much I’m willing to spend on it), and helped keep my completionist tendencies at bay.
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u/SassQueenDani 21h ago
For anyone on Android, try to get into google opinion rewards. You earn money for your google wallet and can use it on in game stuff. Haven't used any bank money on this game but still able to make enough to enjoy a little something here and there