He’s literally advocating offshoring raising productive adults. He is saying to every single American have more kids no matter what (based on his other quotes) then saying but those kids will grow up in a society that does not care about them, support them, or invest in them.
In other words, he wants to replace Americans, which, just a few months ago he was saying liberals and Jews wanted to do this. The mental gymnastics is just exhausting with these idiots.
He wants to replace current immigrants in the fields with homegrown Americans, and then replace middle class Americans with immigrants that are easier to control
Literally trying to move us towards serfdom. Where everyone born here will go straight towards menial labor and poverty with no hope of advancement.
This actually makes a lot of sense with what he and Peter Thiel support - breaking up the country into a bunch of tiny territories each ruled over by an "elite male tech bro".
you don't remember how DOGE coin shot up in value after Melon's SNL appearance? It's obvious their plan is to bankrupt America, buy up the scraps and try to prop up Crypto as the new "global" currency
I dont think those cheap skilled workers are supposed to stay in his mind. Just come, work hard for peanuts to make him and his buddies richer then fuck off.
It’s almost like Elmo has no idea how systems work. How touching one part of the system has ripple effects to other parts of the system. Implicating that change as the root cause.
No, Elmo is a smarty pants nerd. He knows how systems work and how to properly make changes.
i have literally been saying this is the global neoliberal agend for a year now and people would say im being too conspiratorial. i also was talking about how ‘bernie was the compromise’ for 3 yeas now and what people domt realise and still dont talk about which i was also is that the reason why biden’s administration was the best since reagan is because they had to cave into bernie’s popularity and therefore brought him under their wing and followed some of his policies in order to keep public support. dont confuse kamala as being par of the same initiative, she is just another bootscum neocon who was brought in as a DEI hire to sway the hyper-progressive crowd.
People who are for DEI don't usually use it to describe a person. That just makes it another way to say "minority" and it's being used like a slur often. It's a right-wing racist dog whistle to call a PERSON a DEI hire. You're confusing people by using terminology of the right that makes you look racist. To them, DEI is not, "making sure more needs are met by having an initiative that supports inclusion by bringing in diverse perspectives". To them, DEI is "affirmative action", and to them, DEI and affirmative action are both just words for "giving things to minorities instead of white people just because they're minorities in spite of who has better credentials".
I don't really need you to explain your criticism to me, unfortunately. If you're being intentionally inflammatory to be able to have an excuse to preach at someone, the wrong person responded, I'm afraid. I'm actually not a person that didn't understand the concept you describe. I'm just a person who was kind enough to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you may not realize how using a right-wing racist dog whistle in your argument is actually obfuscating your points to the general public because they WILL care about HOW you say what you're saying, and they will see you as more suspicious and less trustworthy by default because you seem WAY too comfortable being openly racist sounding. Furthermore, the fact that you now seem like you were trying to bait someone into this discussion makes it look like you expected to take an educator position in the discussion, which comes off kind of arrogant and unlikable. It's not really a great way to convince most people of anything, even if you DO have a good point. You could be a super smart and lovely person in real life. I'm just letting you know how you seem to be coming off.
"There is clear value in DEI initiatives. They promote inclusivity and help with deconstructing some subconscious bias by allowing for multiple perspectives to be considered, which ultimately can strengthen ideas overall, so it's worth promoting for both ethical and practical reasons. That said, when a person seems to be chosen JUST because they tick certain boxes of seeming "diverse" enough, then it discredits the benefits of these initiatives and only ends up supporting the arguments of those who oppose DEI as a concept. It seems to me like Harris was picked as a marketing symbol instead of someone who truly had a lot to offer to the role."
You don't have to call a black woman a DEI hire to say that you have that opinion. Someone can still disagree with that, but at least you wouldn't seem suspiciously comfortable with racist verbiage.
How is Kamala a DEI hire? She has decades of government experience at the state and federal level. She had more experience in Congress alone than the rapist elect and his couch fucking sidekick have in any level of government combined. THEY are the fucking DEI hires, not her.
So you are saying that you can either be a DEI hire OR an appropriate hire? She can’t be both? I swear you guys sound more racist by the minute.
I clearly stated that I think she is a bad candidate due to the fact that she is a neocon bootscum. I swear just using the word DEI triggered you guys just as much as it does conservatives 🫠
You’re right, I’m clearly racist for pointing out that the black woman was far more experienced and qualified than the spoiled rich white man and it’s insulting to call someone with that level of experience a DEI hire. What was I thinking?
Okay you literally misunderstand what DEI is, it’s about putting minorities in important positions because in the past they haven’t been allowed to be in these positions due to prejudice.
It’s not about taking unqualified individuals and putting them in such positions solely due to the fact that they are minorities
Your perspective of what DEI is and what it is trying to achieve is actually extremely offensive to minorities and is the exact same perspective as those who oppose DEI.
To say that you are either an appropriate hire OR a DEI hire is misunderstanding what DEI is in the same racist and malicious manner that conservatives do.
So Kamala is literally a DEI hire because in the past, someone as experienced as her wouldn’t be allowed to be put into the position she was in 2024 even though she is qualified due to prejudice.
Do you understand now how your view of the DEI system is EXACTLY the same as the racist conservatives that you rightfully complain about? Or do I have to explain it in an even more longwinded manner?
Anyway I am not partaking in this conversation anymore because you’re straight up spewing racist rhetoric that plays right into the hand of those who oppose DEI.
Basically it's tactic to "offload" the cost of education to other countries.
It's weird because they rely on the idea that America is still a desirable place to immigrate to all while doing everything they can to provide less opportunity and make it harder to prosper here.
Yeah will immigrants want to move here if there are no long term job prospects for their children? Because that's essentially what is being proposed here. Skilled workers have options, and will will want to settle where they can have long term stability for themselves and their family.
A lot of countries import skilled labor, but they do it for actual labor shortages, not* just so they can pay their native workforce less.
As always, Republicans are just so fucking short-sighted.
We will come to America to make money because America is still the number one place to squeeze every last penny out of the layer of the pyramid below you, and then go back home to settle down.
I mean maybe, but waaay more significantly he's trying to capitalize on lower costs of living outside of the US.
American workers have a higher education and higher quality of life expectations. Bringing in educated workers of mostly lower quality with lower QoL expectations means he can extract more profit from them by paying them less. And furthermore, it's a drag on productivity by saddling your high performers with a lot of low performers. In my experience it's like 4:1 good/bad performer ratio when trying to leverage h1-b, and I'm being generous. So not only did you bring in cheap labor, but you also neutralized your high performers because they have to babysit and train the same thing 5 times.
This is usually done by outsourcing American workers with foreign labor, but in this case he wants to bring the labor on-shore.
What's funny is, usually the cost of the legal fees to get these immigrants H1-B's ends up costing more than just hiring fresh college grads.
It's just yet another play at leveraging income inequality to further his earnings.
This has everything to do with exploiting the educated-desperate for cheap labor by dangling the U.S. at the end of a stick. You just need to indenture yourself for 100+ hour work-weeks and sharing a 2 bedroom apartment with nine others for a TBD time period. And this MFer has zero intentions of ever allowing them to succeed.
The Education Department works with US industry to understand their future skills needs 10, 15 , 20 years out. They pull this data and publish it with curriculum recommendations so states and counties can consume it and plan for the future.
The reality of it is that it is largely ignored in the US as education budgets have been slashed and curriculums have been politicized. "Some idiot in Washington DC doesn't know what my kid needs to learn!" type shit.
Guess who does read those reports and follow the guidance! Foreign countries. Because they want the work and the Us Dollars that come with it, whether through offshoring or visa employees that send cash back home.
In the 90's with the Y2K bug. Then in the 2000s after the Dot-com bubble. Then again in the 2010s after the housing crisis.
And it never works. They hire a bunch of engineers fresh out of school with limited experience to come in and work for half what a person with experience can do the job for. After a few development cycles they hire the experienced people back as contractors for two to three times what they were paying them as employees. Then they have to hire the American engineers back permanently (with a hefty raise) because the foreign workers discover they are getting screwed and now have the experience to create their own companies and like kings in India, Nigeria, or elsewhere.
The USA have always been very reliant on importing educated people. It worked quite well when the USA was the only democracy in the world which attracted the most educated and / or energetic people of Europe, it also workd well when there were a few more democracies but they were ravaged by two world wars.
It does not work so well when there are dozens of freeer, wealthy democracies spread over three continents that are becoming more attractive to the relatively few native-educated US-Americans than the USA itself.
The tech sector has fired tens of thousands of people the last 2 years. There's no shortage of people who will work, even at a reduced market rate. Visa employees though, they are virtually forced to deal with any exploitative workplace expectations to maintain their visa. 80+ hour weeks, less pay than they agreed to, worse conditions than are legal, anything
All he needs are stupid Americans that will keep voting Republican without giving them any rights, benefits, or appropriate compensation. Bring in educated people that benefit from their home country’s resources growing up then they come here, can’t vote, and are cheap. Sounds like the 1%’s wet dream.
Can you suggest some further reading about them cutting education recently or plans to? I know the GOP has been sabotaging public education in favor of profitable private "Christian" schools for decades.
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u/JinxyCat007 1d ago
Cutting education, then needing to import the educated… fucking hell.