r/LeopardsAteMyFace 4d ago

82% of Obamacare applications for 2025 are from states that voted for Trump Trump

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 4d ago edited 4d ago

Are these direct applications to the Federal exchange or do they include state run exchanges.  Iirc, blue states built their own while red didn't.

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u/SithDraven 4d ago

Well there is definitely something amiss as this isn't all 50 states.

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u/theantidrug 4d ago

Looks like 23 states have their own exchanges, which probably explains the complete lack of NY and very little CA. I’m guessing these are direct applicants at healthcare.gov. 

https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace-in-your-state/

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u/SunriseSurprise 4d ago

Which of course makes this post fucking idiotic, but that's none of my business.

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u/73810 4d ago

Liberal or Conservative, if someone says something that confirms your worldview, it seems like there's very little interest in vetting it or thinking critically about it.

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u/SunriseSurprise 4d ago

Yup, exactly

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u/Spokker 4d ago

And if a similar graphic could be made from 2020 data, it's even more idiotic.

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u/zeussays 4d ago

This is just more rage bait manufactured for the left. Its so rampant right now and people are eating it by the handful.

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u/ThePurpleKnightmare 4d ago

Would that mean if the ACA gets eliminated by Trump it stays for those 23 states?

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u/theantidrug 4d ago

Don’t think so, at least the CA one is directly tied to ACA: “ Covered California is a free service that connects Californians with brand-name health insurance under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”

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u/pittsburgh1901 4d ago

Something is off with this. Where’s NY?

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u/cloverstack 4d ago

If you load the original page from Reuters on big enough of a screen, you can see NY in the lower right corner: https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/BUDGET/xmvjbqgmkvr/

The only ones that are smaller are VT/RI/DC.

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u/the__storm 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah I'm suspicious of this chart (and the Reuters article it's from). I'm pretty sure what's happened is that they're including only applicants and most blue states automatically re-enroll people in the plan they had the previous year. The CMS numbers here don't quite match the ones from Reuters (might just be more up to date) but paint a similar picture if you only look at applicants: https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/marketplace-2025-open-enrollment-period-report-national-snapshot-0#_ftn2

For example:

State New/Actively Returning Auto Re-enroll
Texas 1,077,883 0
Georgia 132,140 1,204,135
California 365,642 1,344,939
Illinois* 117,367 0

*Not sure what's up with Illinois here, total enrollment should be much higher. Might just be that the data is from very early in the open enrollment period (data is from the end of November, enrollment is open through Jan 15). Also states are allowed to set their own open enrollment period, like CA is through Jan 30 - most comparisons of enrollment during the "core" open period are going to miss the last two weeks of CA enrollment entirely.

Also also, definitely read the footnotes on that CMS page - New York for example has its own "Essential Plan Expansion" which covers 1.6 million people (who then don't need to get coverage from the ACA marketplace).

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 4d ago

Of course Texas doesn't auto re-enroll

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u/73810 4d ago

Yes. I'm really curious about this - California for example has what seems like a very low rate given 26% of the population here is enrolled in Medi-CAL and Google says over 1.7 million Californians enrolled in ACA in 2024.

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u/canman7373 4d ago

9 states, all red never expanded medicaid in states the 41 states that did, you do not need to join a plan if under a certain income. So all those people are on medicaid not an aca insurer. ANd it is insane they haven't expanded like Florida could expand today and insure like a million low income people. All the states have to do is pay for the distribution, like office work for the state, fed does the medical bills. Be way cheaper than the uninsured end up costing the state in medical bills and raising prices of residents because of it. but over 12 years later they are still just sticking it to Obama, it's their fault they named in "Obamacare" so if a governor ever signs it, they will be attacked for approving Obamacare not the ACA, it's the third rail of rightwing politics.

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u/IC-4-Lights 4d ago

As far as I know the federal exchange is still just a catalog of health insurance plans from regular health insurance providers.
 
What are the "Obamacare applications"? Just someone purchasing health insurance?

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u/dark_roast 4d ago

Ok that makes sense. I saw earlier that there were ~1.8M Covered California applications this year.

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u/ChopsticksImmortal 4d ago

Yeah, I'm usually happy to shit on funding baby R states, but i was also wondering where the data comes from.