r/InfrastructurePorn Dec 09 '24

Amsterdam Netherlands in 1971 vs 2020

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1.9k Upvotes

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u/ThePlanner Dec 11 '24

Those with car brainwashing: “nobody goes there anymore; there’s no parking.”

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u/reprise785 Dec 11 '24

Noone has ever said that about Amsterdamn mate, calm down.

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u/PhysicsDeep8164 Dec 12 '24

They used to.

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u/nick1812216 Dec 13 '24

Now they say nothing. They fear me, like a force of nature.

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u/breathing_normally Dec 12 '24

They did, and they still do whenever new car free areas are being planned in NL

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u/LoneWolf_McQuade Dec 11 '24

Some things do get better

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u/dont_trip_ Dec 13 '24

Most things get better. Media tends to only focus on the bad things.

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u/Thumbyl Dec 11 '24

What small cars is in this picture?

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u/Accomplished-Trip170 Dec 12 '24

I am surprised GM and Ford did not pay senators to declare war on Dutch for violating freedom.

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u/Inner_Operation47 Dec 11 '24

False, the roads were empty in 2020.

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u/Ok-Share8251 25d ago

Not in the Netherland

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u/mogenblue Dec 12 '24

Looks like the Haarlemmerdijk, seen from the Haarlemmerplein.

Church tower in the background is the Posthoorn.

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u/AddMoreLayers Dec 12 '24

Am I the only one who thinks that the cars on the left image are by an order of magnitude less depressing than modern cars? Their designs seem to favor beauty over efficiency, and they seem to have more identity.

Still, good riddance though.

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u/Win32error Dec 12 '24

We’re in an era of pretty colourless and homogenous design. It’ll pass to some extent, but it’s unlikely we’ll see as much variation as in the past.

It should be noted that there’s also a bit of convergent evolution going on. Which designs are safe, practical, give nice interior space, etc., tends to favor specific builds, and car manufacturers have spend a lot of time trying to find the best way both for the consumers and for actually manufacturing the cars on an assembly line, and that rules out a lot of variation, or at least so I’ve been led to believe.

Big brands are also much less eager to take risks and try something new these days, and the market is pretty consolidated. So there’s nobody out here doing anything particularly wild.

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u/SCH1Z01D Dec 12 '24

nowadays it's all about looking mean, fast and luxurious. that's what it coalesced into. so all cars have the same sort of angular look and pathetic stuff like subscription based features. and a renault looks like a kia that looks like a bmw that looks like whatever

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u/new_grad_who_this Dec 12 '24

The power of the Sustainable Safety Initiative and launching of the SWOV!!!!

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u/Wild-Spare4672 Dec 12 '24

It looks like 1971 versus 1850

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u/mogenblue Dec 12 '24

In 1850 people went by foot.

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u/Wild-Spare4672 Dec 13 '24

Bicycles had been invented by 1850

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u/MegaMB Dec 14 '24

Does not mean they were affordable nor accessible. You have to wait for the 1910's for the industry to seriously start producing.

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u/mogenblue Dec 13 '24

I have seen a lot of pictures of Amsterdam around the 1900s and bicycles were very rare. People mostly went by foot.

You can have a look for yourself at the Amsterdam beeldbank.

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u/intexion Dec 11 '24

Did the factory in the background also get removed. It's too blurred out to see in the second picture.

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u/madjuks Dec 12 '24

By the way, they haven’t banned from that street cars in the right photo. People opt to cycle as cars are an inefficient and costly way to get around the city. Everyone cycles in Amsterdam and as a result you everyone is much fitter and you never see a truly fat local person.

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u/Catji Dec 12 '24

It does not look like 1971. I was there in 1980 and it was like the second pic. Awnings over shop entrances in particular.

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u/I0I0I0I Dec 12 '24

Wait, i thought weed is still legal there...?

1

u/boomer__192 Dec 12 '24

Can someone tell me how they restock stores and businesses, as no goods carriers are allowed

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u/imscavok Dec 12 '24

I don’t know about Amsterdam or this road specifically, but usually vehicles are allowed at certain times of the day (or night) for goods delivery, trash pickup, etc.

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u/Objectivopinion Dec 12 '24

Correct, the sign says 07:00-15:00.

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u/djsekani Dec 13 '24

Am I tripping or is this not even the same street?

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u/borntoclimbtowers Dec 13 '24

i choose 2020 design

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u/LightBluepono Dec 15 '24

Beter future is possible .

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u/Mission-Shopping7170 Dec 11 '24

but cyclist in Amsterdam are really ugly and do not respect pedestrian crossings at all. the same bad as car drivers in Rome.

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u/breathing_normally Dec 12 '24

What’s your point?

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u/LightBluepono Dec 15 '24

Just a idiot thinking cars are beter because they don't see "ugly people"

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

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u/RozTheRogoz Dec 11 '24

Did the red paint on the ground everywhere bikes go not given you any clues?

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u/UUUUUUUUU030 Dec 11 '24

It is a legitimate issue that the touristy parts of Amsterdam often use red bricks for cycling paths that are very similar to the red bricks on the sidewalks, with only small bike icons on them. For me as a local it's clear, but it's easy to see how foreigners get confused.

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u/gmennert Dec 11 '24

Its a drawback for you as tourist/traveller, because you are not used to it. Not a drawback for any Dutch people. And when you have to choose a collision with a bike or a car i think i know what you would choose.

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u/EducationalPhoto3230 Dec 11 '24

They cant afford cars anymore 😔

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u/Ahrily Dec 12 '24

Yes we can’t afford them ruining our city and health any longer

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u/MonsieurMoune Dec 12 '24

They are the most wealthy peoples.

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u/Choice-Towel2160 Dec 12 '24

Hey no jokes or fun allowed Mr. This is reddit. Unless it's about Islam, Jesus or trump, it'S OFF LIMITS

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

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u/Turdmeist Dec 11 '24

Totally worth far lower air quality....

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u/fetamorphasis Dec 12 '24

Ah yes a casual and totally normal joke about killing people with your car.

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u/dylantw22 Dec 12 '24

I kick babies

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u/Bounty66 Dec 12 '24

Both pictures are depressing. I don’t see improvement. I see dystopia.

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u/Admiral201 Dec 12 '24

I assume this is bait, but what would make this not a dystopia to you?

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u/Bounty66 Dec 12 '24

Less people. Less machinery. Open architecture. More open green spaces.

Everyone wants to live in clustered crowded cities and neighborhoods. I find that depressing. There is life outside of civilization. The lands are open and bountiful. We chose to gather like rats in a city because of money and politics.

There is nothing but danger and depression in massive groups of injured people struggling to survive in a world where the landowner, the capitalist, and the entrepreneur work to kill them for money.

Life is more than money. Money is important. Money is not everything.

So I see depression and misery in both pictures.