r/IAmA • u/MagicAlkaloids • Jun 20 '21

I am Ryan Moss, I legally research, cultivate, extract, and analyze magic mushrooms (and many other fun botanical/fungal entheogens) for a living, Ask Me Anything! Science

Hey Reddit, I’m Ryan Moss, head of R&D at Filament Health. I have been at the forefront of natural product extraction and manufacturing for the last 10 years. Over the past months I’ve had the opportunity to combine my expertise in natural extraction with the exciting world of psychedelics, most notably magic mushrooms! I consider myself an expert in the field of natural product chemistry and thought this would be a unique opportunity to discuss my research with you.

I have learned a lot from the Reddit community, especially in the early days of my research, and I’m glad to have the opportunity to give back and clarify some of the things that are and are not true about natural psychedelics.

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Glad to have been able to talk with all of you, I'm signing off for now!

Feel Free to PM me and if there's demand maybe I'll do another one soon! I'm really excited to have this industry move forward! If you're interested please check out Filament Health for current news on what our lab is doing!

Happy Tripping!

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u/nonicknamenelly Jun 20 '21

This is the first I’m hearing of any potential negatives of Lion’s Mane…what have you heard?

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u/Angiotensin-1 Jun 21 '21

https://www.amazon.com/ORIVeDA-Lions-Mane-Extract-Combi/dp/B0899FVMN1

Important information

Safety Information

Do not use mushroom extracts when on immune-suppressing medication, e.g. after an organ transplant. The immune-modulating properties of mushroom extracts high in beta-glucan can act against the medication. For people who are highly susceptible to swings in blood sugar levels (usually the same people that have problems with alcohol and caffeine): mushroom extracts high in beta-glucan can have an effect on blood sugar levels. People using insulin (such as diabetics) might have to adjust their medication. There are reports stating that taking mushroom extracts can cause a feeling of fatigue or dizziness in these cases because blood sugar levels fall too low. Taking the product together with some sugar-containing beverage (such as freshly squeezed fruit juice also contains vitamin C (!)) might help. Since the effect on pregnant and breastfeeding women has never been researched, we recommend against using mushroom extracts in these situations.

Ingredients

Fruiting Body Water Extract: Oriveda's lossless 1:1 hot water extract contains the full Lion's Mane fruiting body in a bio-available form. Nothing was filtered out, all soluble and insoluble bio-actives are still present in their natural synergy. 180 capsules. 350mg per capsule.

Mycellium Alcohol Extract: Oriveda 's mycelium extract is the world’s first and only alcohol extract based on pure liquid-grown mycelium. The emphasis is on the alcohol-soluble diterpenes known as erinacines. Erinacines are considered to be the most powerful NGF-inducers in Lion's Mane. They are only found in the mycelium. 120 capsules. 450mg per capsule.

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u/nonicknamenelly Jun 21 '21

Luckily I don’t fall into any of those categories. Any insulin-dependent diabetic would be monitoring their glucose levels and would be able to adjust accordingly. Pregnant and breastfeeding women are not as likely to use an extract like this during those periods as long as they are paying attention to their prenatal care provider (and that person isn’t some homeopathic pretend “doctor”). I imagine the practical application of these warnings is fairly rare, statistically.

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u/Angiotensin-1 Jun 22 '21

Please ask your doctor! What's in the extract (beta-glucan) logically is in the mushroom itself as well!

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u/KwAhRoMrAe Jun 21 '21

Yes please elaborate?

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u/whataboutbobwiley Jun 21 '21

I know right. I eat them cause they taste good. excellent sub for crab meat. Use it like tofu or filler in other dishes too..

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u/TCookie_AF Jun 21 '21

Fuck, now I'm hungry 🤤😜

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u/whataboutbobwiley Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

sauté them with sweet onions, chop up mushrooms like half inch squares. After sautéed; add butter, cream, and pepper, thyme, rosemary, garlic....Let simmer and stir, serve next to steak..add fingerling tatos if needed

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u/KwAhRoMrAe Jun 21 '21

All i see when googling is the danger of the jellyfish 😂

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u/justavtstudent Jun 21 '21

Apparently some people use them in large quantities for medicinal stuff? Idk, they just taste nice. No, as long as you cook them, there's no safety issue.

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u/Fusion_Health Jun 21 '21

Basically just a drop in libido and DHT.

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u/TheRob941 Jun 21 '21

I take it daily and especially when I microdose, I Know it's not placebo effect because my focus becomes more prevalent. I'd be interested to hear any negative sides. Hmm

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

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u/monsteramyc Jun 21 '21

"I know it's not a placebo because I feel it definitely working" is exactly how placebos work lol

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u/TheRob941 Jun 21 '21

Scientifically, you're right. However, without a study group that I could perform, it's a moot point. One can say they benefit while the next says they don't. I have to rely on what works for me. That's all I was trying to convey, in the most general of terms.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

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u/TheRob941 Jun 21 '21

Lol love the word. I do wish that I had solid research because I want to believe this mushroom really helps. Perhaps when my stocks hit the moon, I'll fund a research study just for Lions Mane.

Edit: Beer typos