r/FinalFantasy • u/bluegemini7 • Mar 01 '23
Yoshi P being a trans ally is an unexpected joy ❤️ 🏳️⚧️ FF XIV
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u/Adriana_gm Mar 02 '23
"That person probably wanted to present the gender they identified with in their heart..."
This part made me feel warm inside ❤️
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u/mythrilcrafter Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
Interestingly enough, that's supposedly also the lore explanation for how fantasias work in Final Fantasy 14; it allows you to present yourself to the world as the you that your heart recognises yourself as.
Side note for the uninformed: fantasias are an in-game item in FF14 that allows you to change the gender, race, and other physical traits of your character.
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u/solitarytoad Mar 02 '23
So, Minerva bustiers for Locke, Edgar, and Sabin, am I hearing this right?
That's alright by me.
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u/CaptainM4D Mar 02 '23
This is pretty awesome hearing him say this. This comment section is already putting me on edge.
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u/bluegemini7 Mar 02 '23
Yeah don't read it. I skimmed through and I wish I hadn't. Honestly kind of ruined the happy vibes I had from reading the Yoshi P statement. The internet is a cesspit.
I literally don't know how to tag the mods and ask them to lock it but I wish they would.
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
The upvote to comment ratio makes me not want to scroll past this comment.
Honestly I hate gaming communities
Edit: nvm it got locked lol
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u/sregor0280 Mar 02 '23
did the bad comments get pushed down? how should I sort comments to read the bad ones so I can join in the anxiety? all I see are good ones like "yaaay yoshi p the best!"
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u/CaptainM4D Mar 02 '23
I don't know.
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u/sregor0280 Mar 02 '23
honestly I feel like 14 is super inclusive. there is a VERY vocal minority of trolls and basement dewlling mouth breathers that wont like it and Yoshi knows this and still says "fuck em, im giving yall the choice to do what you want and be who you want to be in this fantasy world you may use to escape the harsh reality of life"
and for that I love this man
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u/CaptainM4D Mar 02 '23
Absolutely I agree. Honestly it's always the vocal minority, and they always manage to kill the vibe.
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u/skwid79 Mar 02 '23
Wow I didn't expect to read the comments here and see I was mistakenly on 4chan and not the Final Fantasy subreddit.
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u/bluegemini7 Mar 02 '23
Apart from the few nice comments from queer people and allies, this comment section has reminded me that all internet spaces are ultimately a festering cesspit of bigotry and I wish I hadn't said anything at all
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u/Fluffy_Special2251 Mar 02 '23
Looking at this comment section reminds me how stuck up and pretentious this fanbase can be lmao
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u/DeNile227 Mar 02 '23
Who is "You guys"??? Does OP have a history of doing that?
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u/kitsuneinferno Mar 02 '23
All gamers are one single person. Just like Twitter is a singular ideology.
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u/DeNile227 Mar 02 '23
And you don't think it's weird to paint such a broad demographic with the same brush at all? I mean, clearly you do since you're indicating that those two generalizations are bad. I don't really understand how it's "fair" to engage in the same sort of behavior as the people you're attempting to criticize.
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u/kitsuneinferno Mar 02 '23
In the interest of fairness, what is the appropriate response to the hundreds of anti-trans and women's health bills being debated and in some cases passed that are literally stripping rights away from people at a near hourly basis?
Just want to make sure we're being fair.
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u/Employment_Upbeat Mar 02 '23
Bro take a look at your profile, you’re honestly trying to defend the right wing and conservatives? Get outta here dude.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
I'm against stupidity. Leftists have a lot of it, that's what I'm doing. I'm not defending anybody, I'm calling out stupidity.
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u/DeNile227 Mar 02 '23
That is...a very interesting line of reasoning, but okay. All I've got to say is that it would do you well in the realm of discourse and communication with literally any sort of person to not treat broad groups of people like a monolith. Aside from that, you do you, my dude.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
I agre with you, dudes that's what I tried to explain. I don't want to throw millions under the same label, but it is necessary when it is being done from one side to another.
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u/Employment_Upbeat Mar 02 '23
Thus spoke the godly and almighty, the righteous, the only one who understands the reality of the world, “Hairy Lengthiness.”
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u/LandlordsR_Parasites Mar 02 '23
I get the feeling this was actually a very small thing that happened and you’re acting like it was the whole ffandom
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u/demonic_hampster Mar 02 '23
Who is “you guys”? Because I definitely didn’t call him a racist or white supremacist. It’s not like everyone in the FF community called him that. Some people did. They are most likely not the same people saying he’s a trans ally.
Also, they’re not mutually exclusive. You can be a white supremacist and a trans ally. Not that I’m saying he’s in that position, because he’s not. Sure it would be unusual, but it’s not impossible. Statistically, there is at least one white supremacist who is also a trans ally.
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u/bluegemini7 Mar 02 '23
I never labeled him anything, nor do I know much about him. Just saw this story and thought it was very sweet.
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u/CitronRadiant6158 Mar 02 '23
You guys who?
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u/sregor0280 Mar 02 '23
Im a lefty both by what hand I write with and my belief alignment and yet his answer as to why was good, and I never said it about him. again, dont group all people together, because people can share a political alignment and still be individually separate.
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u/E_F_R_E_N Mar 02 '23
That terminally online Twitter brain rot cycle
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Then I'm sorry, I'm not an English native, the minutia scapes me. Sorry if that was the case.
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u/MadeByHideoForHideo Mar 02 '23
Out of the loop, can anyone explain what happened?
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u/DavidMNegron Mar 02 '23
If I recall correctly people through him under the bus for his explanation on the ethnicities of the main cast in FFXVI.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Yoshi was asked why there was so many white/European looking characters in FFXVI, Yoshi P explained why and a lot of people, YouTubers and "journalists" called him a racist, a white supremacist and more nonsense about how Japan needed to "update to modern standards".
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Mar 02 '23
"there weren't many black people in medieval europe at all"
"burn his house down and murder his family!"
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u/MrChangg Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
Why do some people keep thinking medieval Europe was some incredibly diverse place? Most Europeans back then would've gone their entire lives without ever seeing a North African/Middle Easterner much less a black person.
Hell, people in England back then probably never even met an Italian person their whole life.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Heck there's more trans, homosexual and female representation in Japanese comics than all that has been produced in America over twenty years, and everyone likes it.
There's something wrong in the way they are making inclusion, that's something they don't see.
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u/sregor0280 Mar 02 '23
I never labeld him a racist or white supremecist. dont know why you gotta blanket statement everyone here. that almost feels a bit.... discriminatory
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u/MadeByHideoForHideo Mar 02 '23
On the other hand, what you can do is ignore those people. By getting upset or even giving them any attention, you've already made them succeed in what they are trying to achieve.
Just enjoy your wizard game and ignore all that crap on social media.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Of course, an individual can always ignore them, even indie artists can. Who can't are corporate artists that are bound to obey what the investors said, so their creative freedom is done. Plus, social media outrage CAN and have and effect on how these stories are perceived. I still remember a guy, I think it's the director of God of War, saying that people that didn't wanted to play forspoken or criticizing it were all racists.
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u/MadeByHideoForHideo Mar 02 '23
Man, why do you care so much about social media and how it can affect the games you play? THAT's the reason for all the unhappiness. Who cares who said what if you like a game? Guy said people are racist for not liking Forspoken? Who the hell cares? Stop letting what people say online affect you lol. I just don't get it.
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Mar 02 '23
That's a legit villian redemption arc lmak
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Nah, he's Japanese, he's going to say or do something Californians dislike and they will be at their throat again
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Attribute right wingers very specific views and believes is just dumb as shit, but leftists still do it.
I agree is stupid, but it is what it is.
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u/kalevi89 Mar 02 '23
Native Californian here. You sound ridiculous. Yoshi P is a wonderful person and nobody was actually upset with him except clickbait articles.
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u/TakeoKuroda Mar 02 '23
honestly this is a lot of growth. I remember he was against same sex marriages in FF14 for a while due to lore, but he turned on that pretty quick(before marriages were implemented).
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u/AlteisenX Mar 01 '23
I mean he was apparently asked and itd be career suicide to say anything else.
I dont know why people think hes an ally for answering a right answer only loaded question.
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u/Scott_To_Trot Mar 02 '23
OK but he had a very specific example at the ready and didn't give just a pat "we support trans rights"…I leave it to the trans community to determine if he's an ally but I felt he handled the question earnestly.
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Mar 02 '23
Why should they decide if he's an ally or not? I know it may sound wrong but can someone just not care? You can do whatever you want with your body but why should I be part of a war or be interested in it? Maybe I support trans but I still don't care about anything.
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u/Fluffy_Special2251 Mar 02 '23
Idk maybe cause trans people are actively getting murdered in hate oriented acts?
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 Mar 02 '23
Because... theyre those same people being talked about here? I dont get it also what war
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u/ckal09 Mar 02 '23
I mean he was apparently asked and itd be career suicide to say anything else.
Because he couldn't possibly have answered this way because this is what he believes....
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u/demonic_hampster Mar 02 '23
He could have dodged the question if he wanted to, it didn't have to answer it.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Dodging the question would've had a negative response. Leftists already labelled him a racist and a white supremacist because of what he said about FFXVI
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u/arghabargh Mar 02 '23
Dude what? Did you watch some YouTube video where somebody took like five tweets and then ascribed that to ‘all leftists’? I literally know nobody whose said that about Yoshi-P.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
No, I was on twitter telling those id¡ots how stup¡d they are plus comment sections on YouTube from channels CRITICIZING Yoshi P.
Nonetheless, they weren't one, they were thousands, and for me, one stupid person that goes unchecked is enough. All the community should've group against them, not support them
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u/Illumnyx Mar 02 '23
All the community should've group against them, not support them
Just want to point out a different comment you posted in this thread.
I wish they could understand that the way they think and act is wrong in so many ways. Just look at the Hogwarts fiasco, they're making people DISLIKE them, not gathering allies.
Yet you're advocating for grouping up against comments you deem stupid and saying not doing so is tantamount to supporting them? You realize how these two things don't align, right?
What your suggesting is going to cause the same kind of dislike you pointed out about the Hogwarts Legacy situation.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
No, those comments align perfectly. People that actually uses their brains getting rid of most or all bias can tell reasonable actions and the ones that aren't. Harassing hundreds of people's, doxxing their personal and their relatives information and accusing them to be killing trans people by buying and playing a videogame is not reasonable, it's stupid and without basis to support those claims. Actually, people that uses their brains can see how detrimental those actions were going to be, and they are.
That's why, as a group, one needs to stop unreasonable comments, the same way misogyny or racism needs to be stopped on the spot, to let others understand that those actions aren't tolerable anymore.
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u/Illumnyx Mar 02 '23
They do not align, let alone perfectly. People also do not think objectively when making comments like the ones you refer to. Aggressive responses are purely emotional and aren't constructive to the conversation no matter how correct you think yourself to be.
Preventing prejudice against others for who they are is a worthy cause, but you do nothing for it by stooping to the level of those who practice it.
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u/insertbrackets Mar 02 '23
I don't think being anti-trans has been career suicide for anyone that I've seen. Yoshi P's detailed response seems pretty heartfelt to me.
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u/Thelassa Mar 02 '23
Had he wanted to, Yoshida could have said something truly despicable (as it is, I think the "biological male" comment is bad enough - but perhaps more out of ignorance than malice, or perhaps a fault of whoever translated his words), but I assure you that had he expressed outright transphobic sentiments, it would not be career suicide
And had he done so, the people saying he was pressured into it would instead be lecturing us on how Japan is very traditional and they don't condone such Western ideas and cultural differences and blah blah blah.
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u/Interesting_Cut_6401 Mar 02 '23
Ironically he did do that to Skillup when he called FF a JRPG in Japan
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Examples of this?
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u/Caitlynnamebtw Mar 02 '23
The success of hogwarts legacy
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
The success born from the harassment campaign, meaning that the game isn't a success on it's own, but was because of the people that bought the game as a reaction to stupidity.
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u/Fluffy_Special2251 Mar 02 '23
Homie I've seen you in like 5 different threads in this post- we get it you're an "educated anti-snowflake" just say you don't support trans and probably believe the Globalist conspiracy and fuck off and enjoy the rest of your day already 😂
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u/Fluffy_Special2251 Mar 02 '23
Bold of you to assume I vote left lol- here's what I saw you write
"Woke mobs control corporations"
"Woke mobs-" -who are fighting for equality mind you- "- force their opinions and hate on others for having an opinon"
Homie you know how often I and everyone here see that shit lol you're just another generic rando on reddit with too high of an opinion on yourself 😂
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Just answering to the first line of your comment because it's so stupid the rest is useless.
If you were right wing, you were agreeing with me.
If you were a centrist (like me) you were agreeing with me while adding details to your comment, giving an opinion on the situation.
You guys don't fool anyone, you're very easy to read.
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u/Fluffy_Special2251 Mar 02 '23
Oh yeah and you're not? You're in a sub reddit for FINAL FANTASY starting arguments with random people on a post that was harmless. Like why are you even here- do you even play Final Fantasy? 😂 you here to stroke your own ego? Or do you think you're gonna "convince" people? Either way, does that reflect too good on your social life lol
And the centrist thing? Really? That's the oldest excuse in the fuckin book bro nice try-- Quartering tried to say that and look at him- a right wing Elon Musk bootlicker; you wanna try and sell me some Crypto too?
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u/well___duh Mar 01 '23 edited Mar 01 '23
We don't want to restrict attire and clothing that you wear based on characters' gender or sex.
So then, why is it a thing in the first place? Not saying he isn't a trans ally but weird for him to say this when the game says otherwise.
EDIT: For FF14
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u/demonic_hampster Mar 02 '23
To be fair they're removing those restrictions. It takes time because most of the gender locked outfits probably don't look right on the other gender until they tweak it, because they were never designed to go on those models. But they've been un-gender locking more and more pieces every patch.
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u/MadeByHideoForHideo Mar 02 '23
You know that things cost time and money to make right? I too wish things can magically appear for free with just a thought. Come on lol.
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u/solstarfire Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
That interview is ancient. I can't quite remember when it came out, but it should've been during the end of Stormblood. Dataminers found the partial files for gendered attire modelled for the opposite gender in the files some time after that (end of Stormblood to early Shadowbringers, IIRC), and the gender unlocks for old outfits started happening in EW.
Was this Valentione's outfit being gender-locked on release a goof, especially because the event story was about self-expression and self-acceptance? Yes, but I'll accept the explanation that they just hadn't finished the opposite gender models yet, because modders found them, tried them and discovered that they were borked. I saw screenshots, the arms on the dress were very misshapen when put on a male model.
It's happening, they're just slow about it.
Edit: IIRC this was also in response to the Korean servers having some sort of drama over gender issues. Can't find it anymore, but I think the KR servers were on the side of having strict gender locks and Yoshida's response, here, is "No".
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u/OkCrantropical Mar 01 '23
What game says otherwise?
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u/Zokari771 Mar 01 '23
FFXIV, unfortunately there's still plenty of cosmetics that are gender-restricted and the recent Valentine's event came out with brand new gender-restricted ones, which was kind of at odds with the theme of the event's story.
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u/well___duh Mar 01 '23 edited Mar 01 '23
FF14. Lots of glam that is gender-locked, race-locked, and class-locked.
Even just looking at their store for example, the fact they have filters for "men only" or "female only" just goes against his whole statement of "we don't want to do this". Hell, they literally just last month or so released new glam that was female-only.
So again, not saying he isn't a trans ally, but his overall statement of "we don't want to do X" is just bs when they continue to do X and have no plans to stop doing X.
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u/Lemon_Phoenix Mar 01 '23
They've been removing it, but it takes time to remodel all of the sets, so it's being done in waves.
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u/well___duh Mar 01 '23
They've been removing it
And at the same time releasing new gear sets that are gender-locked.
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u/Lemon_Phoenix Mar 01 '23
Those sets were very likely developed months ago. Fixing the items that were already in the game is the obvious priority.
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u/gundumb08 Mar 02 '23
Every single item has to be modeled for every single race and body type in the game. They stated as such when they added Hrothgar and Viera. It's a matter of resources balanced with norms. Sure it's nice they are targeting certain gear (wedding attire was the first if I recall correctly), but to balance resources to remodel tons of old and even new gear to fit twice as many models for let's guess 2-5% of the game population taking advantage of it doesn't make financial sense.
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u/OkCrantropical Mar 01 '23
Ahhh. I don't keep up with 14 so I wasn't aware.
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u/ParaxialShift Mar 01 '23
To be fair to the game, over the years they've remodeled a lot of the male/female gear to be usable by either gender. The main reason this still happens is that each individual armor has to be tailored to fit with the model and also every other piece of gear it may overlap with. So it takes a lot of time for them to change old ones and it takes longer to make new models that are gender neutral because they have to make them from scratch.
For most iterative model design, the shortcut is to take a model that's already been finished as a base and then tweak it by adding or removing flair and designs. For some of the new stuff they make they don't finish it for both genders in game at the same time, but they typically go back over it later to make them useable by every gender.
Not perfect, but the way gear works isn't really a good example that shows Yoshi P's not sincere, here.
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They have not been avoiding those issues for a while now, you're probably new to the series. VII had Cloud cross-dressing which even as a joke was a bold inclusion for a 90s game. VI had female protagonist, V had a pirate that everyone ingame thought was a man, but she wasn't, IX had Quina (refered to as he/she).
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u/Gram64 Mar 02 '23
It was more than just Cloud. And they conveyed it better in the Remake. In OG you got the wig from the gym owner, who seemed to be feminine male character (I believe the other people call them "Bro" in OG), and in remake it's made more apparent that she's trans. On top of that, the new character in remake, the owner of Honeybee Inn Andrea, seems to be bi (iirc he says something along the lines that he only sees beauty not gender), and is obviously very into Cloud.
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u/Ranixo Mar 01 '23
Facts!!
"That hair, that dress..."
"I know, nailed it, moving on."
Probably my favorite line in the remake so far
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u/Marx_Forever Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
Quina is an extremely interesting case. I recently learned about how many pronouns Japan has. And it's funny how absolutely limited in scope ours feel in comparison since they apply exclusively to gender. The reason our version of Final Fantasy IX had to use "S/he" (and how the hell would you even say that?) Is because in the Japanese script they already had many gender neutral pronouns for Quina to use throughout the adventure. But, like I said their pronouns aren't just limited to gender, they're also used by people to convey class, where they're from, and what they want to say about themselves. For example Vivi uses the pronoun "Bibi" which is often used by young boys, but is also used to convey a certain timidness. Zidane, on the other hand uses "Orre", another young male pronoun, but much more confident. While Steiner uses a pronoun (Jidon?) that literally translates to "I myself", which is often used by people from small rural areas, (I believe) this is intended to show confidence in your own beliefs and convictions. This is actually used against him by Baku in one scene where he calls him out for using that pronoun, when all he does is follow orders, which means he doesn't actually have a "self".
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u/MetaDragon11 Mar 02 '23
Why do people like you make the assumption that gay culture or female protagonists didn't exist before Twitter? And that their inclusion is some sort of magical unicorn of rare events?
Jesus people
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
But that's not the same, fella. Japanese people view LGBT issues very differently than you, a westerner
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
I've played all the games, actually. None of those are examples of body dysmorphia, which is what Yoshida was talking about. Cloud's cross-dressing is played as a joke and Quina isn't even human.
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u/demonic_hampster Mar 02 '23
Then it's odd that you're upset over something that's been in the series for six sevenths of its lifetime
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Come on, don't play dumb.
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23
I'm not. Those characters were not trans. Yoshi P is talking about something else entirely. You are forcing modern day politics on old works.
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u/HyliaSymphonic Mar 02 '23
Man watched the scene in which Aerith creamed herself to femcloud and thought “thank god there’s no gay shit in this game”
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23
Just my opinion, but to me it's not being inclusive. It's capitalizing on the politics of the day. That sort of thing doesn't age well. I'd rather them come up with an interesting story and character that explored this idea in a compelling way.
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u/thedybbuk Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
So what do you want? By your own admission they haven't even included trans characters yet. So you're what? Pre-emptively mad? It sounds like there's zero way for them to include trans characters that wouldn't make you mad. The inclusion of them at all bothers you. If they didn't why are you already complaining when there's not even a bad example to point to that is a "token"?
Just say what you actually think. That any inclusion of trans characters would be bad. Stop pretending you really have any reason to complain beyond that. You just don't want trans people represented in media you consume. Am I wrong?
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23
Like I said, if he were to actually write a good story around a trans character, I would find that much more interesting.
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You think Trans people existing won't age well?
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23
I didn't say that, did I?
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Then what are you saying? Explain, please.
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u/1206 Mar 02 '23
Yoshi P is talking about character customization. Who cares? If he really had balls, he'd write a trans character. That's what I mean. This is grandstanding and won't age well.
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The sarcastic "oh, you did something decent who fucking cares" attitude doesn't win us additional allies, but it sure does push people on the fence towards the transpbobic side.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
Creative freedom. You know, doing what you want instead of obeying a master that will punish you for doing otherwise
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
By how people reacted because "FFXVI, why isn't poc people in the game" and the subsequent act of label Yoshi P a white supremacist proves you wrong, and it's not the first time that happens, it happened with Smash Ultimate, it happened with Spy X Family, it happened to fighting games.
If you don't include pocs, you're going to have lots of fucking idiots calling you racist, so no, you cannot have both. Heck, to be nominated to the Oscars you MUST have pocs and female characters in important roles. That's not freedom, buddy, or your sense of freedom is sick twisted
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
New ethics committee for square enix. But no, he stood his ground against the accusations of racism and gave a very reasonable explanation for why his characters are predominantly European looking, so he's a very intelligent guy. This also proves his intelligence.
And you have creative freedom when you're not forced to include X type of content in your art. He's doing pretty well there too.
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u/Hairy_Lengthiness_41 Mar 02 '23
There is, inside leftists groups, that's what I printed out with my original comment.
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u/fords42 Mar 02 '23
He loves the class - after all, his lala mains BLM. I’m joking, of course.
On a more serious note, whataboutery is equally silly. Is it really that hard to accept his answers at face value?
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u/Nikita_Highwind Mar 02 '23
Okay
But female clothes looks weird on males expect lalafels and vieras
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u/Marx_Forever Mar 02 '23
Anything looks "weird" if you're not accustomed to it.
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u/Nikita_Highwind Mar 02 '23
I'm okay with guys in dresses as long as it looks okay. But some roegadyn or hrothgar in a dress will look funny.
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u/Iluraphale Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
I would pump the brakes on praising him, that's not really a "I support trans" statement but hopefully he is pro trans ☺️ - I'm still very annoyed they went with an all white game...so dumb and honestly in 2023 disheartening
Disappointed to see the downvoted but such is life 🤷🏽
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u/arciele Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23
We are locking the comments because some of you here don't know how to keep it civil. We will not tolerate such behaviour.
edit: after reading some of the comments, also no politics (rule5)
Also to clarify, the topic itself is relevant to FF as Yoshi-P is producer of 2 FF games and his worldview trickles into the games he is involved in (most notably FFXIV and discussion on genderlocked gear).