r/Eugene • u/Revolutionary-Boss77 • Nov 06 '24
How likely are we women to be affected by reproduction rights here after orange man is in the house ? News
I am new to politics and first time voter and I feel a lot uncertainty right now and I would like to know how likely is Eugene OR to be affected with new rules for women reproductions rights
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u/VeezyHeezy Nov 06 '24
With republicans in complete control, no one is safe.
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u/laffnlemming Nov 06 '24
I agree.
More of us should have read the old book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here6
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u/oregon_coastal Nov 06 '24
Well, looks like GOP will keep the House.
That means they have 2 years to do as much christifascist shit they can.
So, yeah, it will be illegal.
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u/erika1972 Nov 06 '24
I think it’s pretty bad it was a sweep. I’m older, but if I were a young woman and not wanting to be pregnant in the next 4 years, I’d probably get an IUD rn.
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u/Revolutionary-Boss77 Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
I think is beyond not wanting to be pregnant it comes down to fear of complications and not being able to get proper care like in TX.
edit: auto correct
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u/erika1972 Nov 06 '24
Yes, I think you’re right to be afraid. I don’t think Oregon will follow Texas with the same state laws so that protects you in the immediate sense but it still feels pretty scary. If I were pregnant, I wouldn’t be traveling to states where you’re not protected. So sad.
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u/HeavyVoid8 Nov 06 '24
It won't matter if they federally ban it and make it a murder charge like in Texas. Even if Oregon doesn't enforce it, no doctor will risk the charges and provide the services.
They will not stop with abortion either. They are going to take as much as they can in the next few years.
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u/coraythan Nov 06 '24
My wife and I had a fetus whose brain was "obliterated" in the womb due to a spinal abnormality according to the doctor. Abortions are necessary safety procedures.
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u/Revolutionary-Boss77 Nov 06 '24
I am so sorry to hear that I hope your wife is okay
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u/coraythan Nov 06 '24
It was many years ago now, but it makes the "women bleeding out in parking lots" thing a little too real for us.
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u/PressureThin2903 Nov 06 '24
Texas is a very special state the government doesn’t own all of their land so they have a lot more power the federal government owns over 50% of Oregon vs only owning less then 2% of Texas and the bits that they own are mostly the forest service and national parks
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u/SnarkyTaco Nov 06 '24
An IUD caused me to have an ectopic pregnancy prior to Roe v Wade being overturned. I lived in Alabama, so I'd likely be dead now if it had been overturned earlier than it was.
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u/erika1972 Nov 06 '24
Oh god, I’m so sorry. That’s awful.
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u/HeavyVoid8 Nov 06 '24
I myself know 3 people that have been in similar life threatening situations while pregnant and wanting to have the child. They wouldn't have been saved in many states today. There are countless more across the country that people don't know about
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u/Bhaaldukar Nov 06 '24
That's assuming those remain legal and accessible.
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u/erika1972 Nov 06 '24
That’s why I said right now. :) After trump was elected last time, I got my tubes tied. I wasn’t risking it and don’t want children. No regrets.
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u/pandarose13 Nov 07 '24
My husband and I just had the discussion about one or both of us getting sterilized. He has an appointment set with a GP to make that happen, and I’m still strongly thinking about it for myself. We were tossing the idea around about having another one, but I’m exhausted I don’t want to worry about my life anymore and I can’t bring another child into this world with everything happening. The election just solidified this decision and it sucks that it happened by force.
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u/Randvek Nov 06 '24
For actual services, no rights will be lost in a state like Oregon but funding will be a huge concern.
The bigger concern will be access to medicines, which states have much less control over.
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u/Objective-Coyote6892 Nov 06 '24
Just watch out for federal bans…
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u/impatient1019 Nov 06 '24
Marijuana isn’t legal federally and still legal in Oregon. I’m hoping that if there is a federal ban oregon will uphold the protections already in place here.
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u/drunkandy Nov 06 '24
> Marijuana isn’t legal federally and still legal in Oregon
let's see how long that lasts
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u/impatient1019 Nov 06 '24
I don’t disagree with you. Nothing is guaranteed and I am still fearful of the impact of this election but I’m trying to find hope where I can
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u/Historical_Project00 Nov 07 '24
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Project 2025 end up forcefully ousting Democratic governors. I mean, with the power conservatives have now, who’s to stop them?
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u/2beetlesFUGGIN Nov 06 '24
National ban incoming. Get a vasectomy
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u/Ambulating-meatbag Nov 06 '24
No Healthcare, just have to tie a rubberband around em till they fall off
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u/2beetlesFUGGIN Nov 06 '24
Don’t do that. Get a job with healthcare, get your operation, and then quit.
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u/Unlikely-Display4918 Nov 07 '24
Oh my God thank you for the laugh. My old farmer father used to use something he called " bodeezers" to remove the balls off of cows. Before that people did use rubber bands. It must have been so painful for the cows either way. But I needed a laugh today I don't know why this made me laugh Don't judge.
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u/MrEntropy44 Nov 06 '24
We have a party that openly defended child marriage in multiple state house legislatures last year in control of all three branches of government. We have party that has explicitly said that women don’t have the right to consent on charge of all three branches of government. We have a party who wants women to become baby factories in charge of all three branches of government.
You are in danger. Your sisters are in danger. Your daughters are in danger.
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u/Rubysdreams Nov 06 '24
We won’t have OHP anymore so we won’t even have healthcare at all.
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u/FreeLookMode Nov 06 '24
Women in Oregon are at risk if the GOP takes the House. They already control the Senate after this election. GOP-MAGA has consistently touted passing a federal abortion ban, which would apply to Oregon. There even less afraid of women's vote now after 52% of all white women voted for Trump yesterday. (Spoiler: they don't count or give a shit about the non-white vote.)
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u/Unlikely-Display4918 Nov 07 '24
Well I keep hearing that a lot of votes were misplaced or just plain missing
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u/pacific_grrrl Nov 06 '24
I know I'm truckin' my 17 yr old to Planned Parenthood ASAP for an IUD. 10 years of pregnancy protection. But even when she chooses to get pregnant her life will be in danger
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u/DrPepperlegs Nov 06 '24
That has so many answers but I think the best one is "we don't know, so be prepared." Oregon does stand as a bastion of reproductive rights with so many individuals within the state fighting for pro-choice measures on the ballot. Sadly Kotek has highlighted that we could also lose a person to a heavily funded republican if we aren't careful. I foresee 2026 having a strong attack on seats against Blue states that have a weak party in areas that were already borderline, Republicans are great shape shifters and will concede some policies like we saw Buehler do just as much as Drazen.
If a national abortion ban is signed I foresee a lot of people getting viscerally upset, especially since it now will affect all Blue voters regardless of location. But, personally I don't know if people will step up to make the change needed to show up. The only benefit is this is hopefully* Trump's last run and there might not be another individual that could spearhead the party like he can. Now that also is bad because that could also inspire a 3rd run push from his party and base, and he could legally set up for that with a sweep of the house and Senate. And I don't know if the Democratic party has what it takes to fight him.
This should have been a sweep on the opposite direction for the people of America, but the Democrats brought a pile of nothing to the table and even lost Roe while they were in office. How do you expect to win when you show up without anything? They just expected it like in 2020 with Biden where the Trump era was in full swing and people were living so heavily on a day to day cycle focusing on the changes.
Whatever happens with Trump, it's gonna be nothing compared to the cabinet beneath him.
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u/Z0ooool Nov 06 '24
It’s fairly unlikely. Be very glad you’re living in a blue state.
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u/audaciousmonk Nov 06 '24
Much of this state is red offset by blue concentrations like Portland and such
If local GOP was better organized, and they moved some people here…. It isn’t as solidly blue as you’re making it out to be
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Nov 06 '24
Who is not even a little bit surprised this happened?? This was by design folx.
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u/killthespare7 Nov 06 '24
The far right just took over every branch of government, nothing is safe.
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u/luvapug Nov 06 '24
Pretty sure when/if he dismantles the ACA is when shit will go downhill for Healthcare in almost every state that has Medicaid but Oregon has it's own state plan so I am not sure how it will look. I think there are some changes that would definitely hurt us here regardless regarding birth control cost or access to birth control
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u/choss-board Nov 08 '24
State plans are usually Federally-funded. In many states, famously Kentucky, their local non-Obamacare program actually is Obamacare medicaid under-the-hood, just named differently for marketing and political reasons. A quick Googling showed that OHP Bridge (formerly Oregon Basic Health Program / OBHP) is almost entirely Federally-funded and thus at risk.
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u/Dry-Committee-9395 Nov 06 '24
Stock up on mifepristone, misoprostol, & plan B. They last four to five years. I travel to Texas a lot, I will be bringing as many as I can there, and keeping my own stash for myself & all the women in my lives here. It’s better to be safe than sorry if they’re able to get a federal ban (even just on medication access), and/or disrupt the production and transfer of them.
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u/VeterinarianTasty353 Nov 06 '24
What I am surprised by that no one is talking about is in order for Trump to win by as much as he did, there were Democrats that also voted for him.
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u/reddogisdumb Nov 06 '24
I predicted a national abortion ban and I'm still predicting it.
These people think abortion is murder. Why would they allow murder in some states and not others. Their voters want a national ban. They can pass it by abandoning the Senate fillibuster (which isn't in the Constitution).
National abortion ban. Might be 20 weeks? 15 weeks? Something like that. They'll do that first, and then the 6 week national ban comes next. 6 weeks, like in Texas and Florida. Why not? Voters don't prioritize abortion rights.
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u/rash-head Nov 06 '24
No matter who, we’ll be fine…unless another war begins or another pandemic or another financial crisis.
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u/starfishmantra Nov 06 '24
You will see the Rs try to eliminate the right to abortion through a national abortion ban.
You will likely see the Rs try to ban the right to access mifepristone.
The SCOTUS will see Alito and Thomas step down and be replaced by two conservative Justices who will rule against women time and time again.
No fault divorce will be possibly be eliminated.
Not an issue here in OR, but women in R-lead states will likely continue to die in larger and larger numbers as their right to both birth control, and prenatal care is limited or eliminated.
Women were just set back nationally, and in many R-lead states, their rights were just pushed back further and further.
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u/RiotsAndWarfare Nov 06 '24
I thought abortion laws were going to the states. No longer a federal gov concern.
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u/choss-board Nov 08 '24
Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch all insisted Roe was settled precedent. Didn't stop them from overturning it.
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u/sassinyourclass Nov 07 '24
Specifically on reproduction, you’re in one of the safe parts of the country.
However, I want to acknowledge and validate what you’re feeling. As a politically engaged person, it’s our responsibility to move the country toward a better political future. Right now you have a sense that we’re doing a terrible job — and that’s because we are.
I encourage you to get involved. There’s lot to do and you can absolutely make a difference.
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u/BoldSpaghetti Nov 06 '24
It should be state rights but there should be zero repercussions for those that travel out of state to legally get one. Whether or not that’s possible, no clue. I don’t like the idea of the gov basically tracking where you travel.
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u/Moarbrains Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24
Agreed and keep in mind the Democrats had a majority in congress multiple times before and they never even mentioned trying to codify roe vs Wade, instead leaving it as a wedge issue.
But they will now and the citizens especially will push it through with referendums.
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u/lurkedfortooolong Nov 06 '24
Theoretically an abortion ban can be enforced on all states by the right court case falling into the supreme court's lap.
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u/Yegas Nov 07 '24
You aren’t going to be.
Even if a federal bill is passed to outlaw abortion, Oregon has proven willing to flout federal laws if the state voters want to (e.g. Marijuana laws)
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u/ggffguhhhgffft Nov 07 '24
whatever the case start gathering informational resources and sharing them with your community now before it becomes harder to do, reach out to each other and establish connections — overpreparing now is better than not being prepared at all
r/auntienetwork for anyone who needs it
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u/duckduckphuck Nov 08 '24
Not sure if you realize it, but Trump has stated reproductive rights are for each state to decide. He will not seek a federal abortion ban. Don’t listen to the doom and gloom, you will be just fine.
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u/MyOnlyAccount_ Nov 06 '24
Reproductive rights are enshrined in the constitution of Oregon, all the federal government (Supreme Court) did was give the states the ability to make the decision on that issue. Which Oregon already has, years ago. Actually they have expanded upon that decision and made access even more broad, once in 2014 and again in 2022 I believe.
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u/bksi Nov 06 '24
It will take them awhile. Abortion/women's rights take a back seat to consolidating power. But you should take care and plan ahead. Perhaps get an IUD, stockpile mifepristone and misoprostol, read up on appropriate herbal control and abortifactents.
Getting pregnant? I would really think twice about getting pregnant over the next few years. Also any sort of marriage plans should get shelved for the time being. Watching how this all unfolds will be your best guide.
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u/saradoob Nov 06 '24
Remember this is not a person who actual makes good on their plans. He didn’t overturn the ACA last time and we’re still waiting for the border wall to be finished. He makes big promises to cash fat checks. Oregon will stand as firm as it can as long as we have a dem governor.
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u/seaofthievesnutzz Nov 06 '24
unless Donald Trump changes the constitution in order to make a federal ban on abortion then it is unlikely.
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u/tatersauce Nov 06 '24
Weed is federally illegal it wouldn’t be the first time we ignored the fed laws and made our own
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u/here2vapeneatass Nov 06 '24
The state votes so whoever we put into our local government will choose that,
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u/KittehFantastic0 Nov 06 '24
I highly recommend a long-term birth control method (IUD, implant, etc) if you are not planning to start a family in the next 5 years.
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u/Revolutionary-Boss77 Nov 06 '24
I want to give brith I am just afraid of the complications also the clock is ticking I cant wait any longer
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u/catchmygrift Nov 06 '24
I highly recommend men learning how not to put their penises in things that make babies if they don’t want them, and woman having far more control over every single thing coming in and out of their bodies. This should not be a government matter. Safe contraceptives should be available and kids educated on them.
Abortions should be accessible - 100000% - but they should NOT just be a failsafe for improper sexual behavior. There is a conversation there to be had.
Not everyone “plans” a family, and many people can do it, even though they get an abortion of “convenience” - as Lars Larson likes to call it. But many many kids will only face abuse, neglect, and trauma from a parent that never wanted a kid in the first place or is unable to care for it.
Until we start funding Mothers, and making families a viable financial institution for health and safety, we better damn well give everyone the right to choose for themselves and their future about whether they are really fit to have a child.
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u/Revolutionary-Boss77 Nov 07 '24
sometimes you dont have control over complications and in those cases you need medical care
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u/novellastar1934 Nov 06 '24
Anyone who relies on special education and Medicaid can kiss it goodbye. Social security may also be a thing of the past.
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u/Weekly_Divide909 Nov 07 '24
0% chance! The states vote on it now instead of the federal government deciding!
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u/Diesel_David Nov 07 '24
It’s not what he decides to do or his cabinet, JD Vance and Trump said that they are leaving it up to the individual states to decide so don’t blame them if things go sideways blame our local government
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u/Rune_nic Nov 07 '24
We live in Oregon, it'll be fine. The same democracy that allowed him to be elected will protect the state's rights. I promise lol.
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u/bettierage69 Nov 07 '24
I made sure to get my bilateral salpingectomy last month because I was anxious and I’m so glad I did. Very very grateful to be in Oregon but I don’t trust any of these fuckers about to be in power.
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u/Accomplished_Way6723 Nov 07 '24
Exceedingly unlikely.
Trump isn't a committed anti-abortion zealot. He needed to ally himself to conservative judges in order to appeal to "respectable" conservative opinion in 2016 but it's his party now. He doesn't need them at this point. They need him.
Everyone except religious zealots understands that overturning Roe has been an electoral disaster for Republicans. In most places, red state voters have opted to shore up abortion rights. Most of the Republican caucus isn't going to want to insert itself into a big fight over abortion at the national level, not after they've just managed to get control of government for the first time in 4 years.
Democrats would filibuster any attempted national abortion ban. Some people tell themselves that Republicans would nuke the filibuster. Let me remind you that Republicans had that opportunity during Trump's first term and didn't take it. People in the caucus understand that having the filibuster in place gives them an excuse not to pass laws that would be unpopular but that are demanded by their base. The filibuster is useful not just for the party in power but for the party out of power. There's a reason it's survived this long.
Even if Republicans managed to pass a national abortion ban, it would be exceedingly difficult to enforce. Let me remind you that marijuana is still illegal at the federal level. Are people being arrested by the FBI for smoking pot or buying gummies in Eugene? No.
What Trump could do is to make birth control harder to obtain without a prescription. He could also curtail the availability of abortion pills prescribed through telemedicine. But he can't do anything about abortion within Oregon.
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u/ZealousidealSun1839 Nov 07 '24
It's very unlikely since Trump said he wouldn't sign a federal abortion ban and would veto it.
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u/Tiasmo-Bertjayd Nov 07 '24
I don’t trust anything Trump says; fact checkers have rated his statements false significantly more than any other politician.
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u/CreativeLark Nov 07 '24
Depends. Republicans could well try to pass a federal ban on abortions. Then it would be appealed so on hold for a while before ending up with the Supremes who would definitely endorse the ban.
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u/CreativeLark Nov 07 '24
Birth control could well be on the table. But get at least they really showed them Libs.
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u/sumitbafna27 Nov 07 '24
You’ll be okay if you continue to live in Oregon. Move to Arizona or the Dakotas and that’s a different issue altogether. Your reproductive rights are the state’s domain. Unless your state’s electorate feels different, it doesn’t matter who the president might be, you’ll be okay. And there is a broad level of consensus in Oregon on women’s reproductive rights.
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u/Unlikely-Display4918 Nov 07 '24
It's possible. Not probable. I've seen a lot of people talking about how votes are missing. This seems to be the reason I was able to get out of bed today.
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u/Unlikely-Display4918 Nov 07 '24
Even the state psychiatric hospital here relies on a lot of federal funding.
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Nov 08 '24
Seems to me that there is more power in people’s hands as now it’s at a state level as opposed to a “shotgun blast” effect we all have to abide by. People don’t want government in their lives but now they want government in their lives. Like which is it? 🤦🏼♂️
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u/TwoPlusTwoEqualsFyve Nov 08 '24
Ask yourself…. When he was in office last time, were your rights trampled then? Then ask yourself what’s the difference between now and then, and how easy it was to be manipulated by the mainstream media into thinking anything of the sort….
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u/Commercial-Bee5737 Nov 08 '24
By appealing to addictive emotions such as indignation. Indignation is a brain high and Trumpers are hooked. It worked for the Nazi’s and it works for Trump.
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u/okaytomatillo Nov 09 '24
Project 2025 mentions enacting the Comstock act, which was an anti-obscenity law passed by congress in 1873. It prohibited the distribution of “obscene” materials like pornography, contraceptives, and any material, medication, or equipment that could be used for abortion via the mail. If enacted, this would not technically be a national abortion and contraceptive ban but would act like one. Even in blue states where these things are protected, providers would be unable to ship in supplies or medications.
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u/Dizzy_Hogan2 Nov 10 '24
It's at the state level, so each state has the right to vote on abortion rights and I'm pretty sure Oregon will be the same as it's always been.
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u/FranticToaster Nov 10 '24
"Reproduction rights" is a term that's so broad it ends up confusing. What's happened is this:
A few years ago, the US supreme court overturned a prior ruling that declared it unconstitutional for the federal or state government to require a doctor provide a patient's medical records. Ruling was that it violated patient privacy. This meant that the government had no practical way to enforce an abortion ban. New opinion is that nothing in the US constitution specifically backs that stance up.
So, states and fed government can request a patient's medical records. I don't know if there are restrictions on this, but it at least lets the government gather proof that a doctor gave an abortion, now.
Some states (13) have totally banned abortion since then. Others (28) have bans that kick in after a certain duration of pregnancy. The rest (9) have no ban at all.
Trump administration plans to leave that regulation with the states and the fed government won't touch abortion.
Oregon is historically very pro choice, so you're fine in Eugene.
Other reproductive rights are not up for discussion. For example contraception. No states are banning contraception and two prior supreme court rulings are locking that in place right now.
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u/DriverMaterial9566 Nov 11 '24
Very likely. All the Trump administration has to do is use the previously not enforced Comstock act that prevents mailing of birth control or drugs that cause abortions, or to have an agency tasked with approval of drugs/meds deem the use of them for abortion unsafe and illegal then who cares about states rights or federal abortion bans. The later option is probably less likely considering he wants to have RFK Jr. nuke the FDA, but the guardrails are off so anything is possible really.
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u/LalaLane850 Nov 06 '24
Unlikely. Beyond unlikely. There are plenty of other miserable things Eugene could be affected by though. I am like heartbroken and in disbelief at my fellow Americans. What a bunch of dummies.