r/CrappyDesign • u/NeoNejd • Feb 26 '20
The wheels on the new Mac Pro don't have locks. They cost 550$.
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u/JENOVAcide Feb 26 '20
Why are there wheels to begin with
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u/icannevertell Feb 26 '20
So that it can roll away.
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u/helixflush Feb 26 '20
until the very next day
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u/mixttime Feb 26 '20
bum bum bum bum ba da bum
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u/tomasek1a Feb 26 '20
So the duck walked up to the lemonade stand
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u/TheBigBananaMan Feb 26 '20
And he said to the man, running the stand,
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u/NitrosAndIPAs Feb 26 '20
Got any grapes?
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u/EMBAMBO Feb 26 '20
And the man said "No, we sell lemonade."
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u/onebelligerentbeagle Feb 26 '20
So if there isn't space in your car and you don't have a trailer you can tow the computer to your destination
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u/cromulent_pseudonym Feb 26 '20
We needed CRT monitor wheels back in the day
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Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20
Throw back to when moving a "big screen" TV meant a 275lb 55" CRT rear-projection TV in a 3rd floor apartment with no elevator and it's just you and your roommates getting all smashed against the wall while the particleboard from the TV falls apart everywhere and you fuck up the drywall on every landing on the stairs and you wonder how movers can do this fucking shit all day. Nowadays you can carry a 55" in the house and hang it on the wall all by yourself in less than an hour if you know what you're doing.
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u/playerIII Feb 26 '20
Trying to get those things down hallways was the worst, let along around corners.
It forces a two man job for what damn should be a four man.
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u/Wrang-Wrang Feb 26 '20
The worst is how uneven the weight distribution was. All the weight was in the front.
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u/playerIII Feb 26 '20
And the damn balance point is a place you can't even get holding the TV flat.
It honestly shocks me when they built the tvs they didn't made handles on them
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u/RiktaD Feb 26 '20
I assume for enterprise usage, to move it to another place semi-frequently. E.g. if you have to present/demonstrate something on a bit more powerful machine, you could just roll the machine into the meeting-room and plug it to the screen/connector.
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u/link_hyruler Feb 26 '20
I'm supposed to bend down uncomfortably far and pull it to another room? I can't imagine someone tying a string to it and pulling it that way in an office space. I would much rather just lift the machine by the handles
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u/UN16783498213 Feb 26 '20
For $550 I'd buy a wagon and keep the $530. Hell, I might even splurge a bit on a wagon with wheel locks and keep the $500.
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u/St0neByte Feb 26 '20
For $550 you could put it on a remote controlled caddie that wheels itself around. Apple is garbo.
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u/AdkLiam4 Feb 26 '20
My high school came up with a solution to this decades ago by putting the computer on a cart.
Not only did the wheels lock, it didn’t cost hundreds of dollars.
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u/smallaubergine Feb 26 '20
You think I'm gonna be a poor and put my $15k computer on a cart?
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u/DC38x Feb 26 '20
If only they made powerful PCs that were portable, and could sit on your lap...
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u/induna_crewneck Feb 26 '20
There's no laptop (that I know of) that is as powerful as that tower.
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u/DC38x Feb 26 '20
But can it run Crysis?
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u/TechnoRedneck Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20
So save yourself hundreds of dollars, buy a Chromebook, and remote into the mac
Edit: save not dave
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u/fuzzygondola Feb 26 '20
Well yeah, I guess, but it already has 2 sturdy lifting handles.
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u/ThetaOneOne Feb 26 '20
The thing is a beast though, weighs 40+ pounds. Not trying to defend fucking $500 wheels but it’s not like wheels don’t have a use.
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u/jimbob320 Feb 26 '20
Spend the $500 on a few months of gym membership and just carry it like the office Chad.
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u/fuzzygondola Feb 26 '20
Whoa, that's actually pretty damn heavy especially for a mid tower form factor. And I thought my 30 pound full tower was bulky.
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u/MonkeySafari79 Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20
It's convenient if you wonna go on a trip with your Mac Bro©.
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Feb 26 '20 edited Mar 09 '20
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u/induna_crewneck Feb 26 '20
Imagine if freelance editors just went from company to company riding their wheeled Mac
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u/saanity Feb 26 '20
So they can make money selling wheel locks.
Create a problem.
Charge money to solve that problem.
Profit
-Apple
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u/RussiaLoveReddit Feb 26 '20
Your battery crapped out? Whoops! Like you need a new phone! What's that? 2 years ago you could replace the batteries easily? No no no we are too forward thinking and BOLD to keep to those old design paradigms. If you drop your phone in water we dont want you taking the battery out so it doesnt fry itself. That would be silly!
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u/squrr1 Feb 26 '20
If you need the computer to be able to move around in your studio. Not a super common use case, I would think.
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u/nytrons Feb 26 '20
I work in a studio with old mac pros and we move them around all the time. It sounds like a gimmick but the sturdy case with handles is really useful. We bought a couple of PCs recently and they've been driving me crazy just trying to pick them up without dropping them or breaking something off.
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Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 09 '23
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u/nytrons Feb 26 '20
We're an animation studio, people come and go, stuff gets moved and swapped around.
Like, this week I'm working on something simple that doesn't need much power, so I took one of the older macs and left the pc at my desk free for rendering.
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u/AngryAtStupid Feb 27 '20
Here's a radical idea, why not just move the people to the machines?
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u/randomevenings Feb 26 '20
For years I put my tower on a platform I made with wheels. I also put wheels on some of my furniture. TV/entertainment stand, coffee table.
Anything you have to pull out and mess with wires. Wheels make it so easy to do that or to clean behind things. Computers get dusty and being able to easily roll it out is great. The coffee table is self explanatory.
I have a mini tower on my desk now, so no need for wheels. This mac pro looks huge and a lot of people will put them on the floor. Most offices are carpeted. It won't roll around.
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u/gravewisdom45 Feb 26 '20
So it can be stolen easier
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u/SabashChandraBose Feb 26 '20
I guarantee you if you leave this puppy in my Oakland neighborhood and come back, you'll find it on four cement blocks and the wheels just fucking gone.
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Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 27 '20
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u/asianabsinthe Comic Sans for life! Feb 26 '20
I hear the iWedge will make it tilt. No word yet on the anti-tilt version yet.
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u/KeisterApartments Feb 26 '20
iShim
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u/PAND3RP Feb 26 '20
iSham
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u/TJPrime_ Feb 26 '20
iShatMyself
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Feb 26 '20
Kaitlin Bennett, is that you??
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u/111IIIlllIII Feb 26 '20
is that the girl whose personality is that she bought a gun?
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u/FreshCremeFraiche Feb 26 '20
Who cares aslong as it's a wireless Wedge with bluetooth
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u/regeya Feb 26 '20
Made from a solid piece of hand milled anodized aluminum, it's the most elegant wheel chock ever created.
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u/G2geo94 Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20
It's also the world's first wheel chock made specifically for the all new Mac Pro. And we're excited today to showcase it right here, just for you.
And right now, you can buy it. For just $200.
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u/EccentricOddity Feb 26 '20
I swear Apple’s marketing is so fucking slimey but you nailed it lol
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u/DownshiftedRare Feb 26 '20
Made from a solid piece of hand-grated parmesan, it's the most fragrant wheel chock ever created.
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u/Enrapha Feb 26 '20
Made from a fire forged solid chunk of horse manure. The shittiest wheel chock ever made.
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Feb 26 '20
There are slightly cheaper third party wedges but they've been known to randomly catch on fire.
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u/Bone-Juice Feb 26 '20
Careful, they might brick the computer for using third party devices.
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u/fkafkaginstrom Feb 26 '20
The wheels have a proprietary shape that coincidentally causes ordinary wedges to fail.
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u/stevez_86 Feb 26 '20
And using another object voids the warranty and serves as a breach of contact. Services provided will be billed at full cost. Please pay your $5,000 bill for the installation of proprietary wedge promptly or expect to be contacted by the legal department.
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u/Aerospherology జ్ఞా Feb 26 '20
I want to see someone grating cheese on this thing.
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u/SlothOfDoom Design Guru XXX-trordinaire! Feb 26 '20
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u/XS4Me Feb 26 '20
cant believe i actually watched that crap to the end.
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u/evilrome Feb 26 '20
Yeah and no 2019 model :/
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u/iamthenev Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 27 '20
But not urgently, so no need to rush
Edit: woot! first reddit silver, ty kind stranger
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u/Supertilt Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20
This is why Apple does this shit.
They know that idiots like this are going pay 550 bucks for a 15 dollar set of casters simply because their receipt will say Apple
It's embarrassing
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u/workingishard Feb 26 '20
This is the answer. Adding $500 ontop of the absolutely ludicrous price of the Mac Pro is a drop in the bucket.
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u/JeffGodOBiscuits Feb 26 '20
Maybe the fact that it's the same price or cheaper than similar workstations from companies like Dell, HP and Lenovo. This is not a consumer machine.
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Feb 26 '20
OK, but that's nothing to do with the price of the stand.
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u/JeffGodOBiscuits Feb 26 '20
I can only assume the wheel are cast aluminium or stainless steel with some ridiculous bearings to move that easily. Add Apple tax to what is an expensive part to manufacture and you get $400 wheels. There have been people in this thread commenting about needing to regularly move their workstations, and when choosing between having people carry a $50k workstation or push it around on overprices wheels it's a no-brainer to pay the $400.
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u/d0nk3y_schl0ng Feb 26 '20
They are $400, NOT $550. $400 is enough to be shocked at the ridiculous price, adding a random $150 to the price for Reddit points is....pointless. But the fact is, they bought the $400 overpriced wheels without even checking if they had locks. Sounds like a sucker looking for sympathy.
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u/workingishard Feb 26 '20
Watch the video /u/ThePiratesLife posted. It explains the general idea behind it.
Stupidly ovedpriced for the consumer space? Sure. But, the Mac Pro is not a consumer product, and was never designed to be. I mean, the $5,999 price tag on the stock variant, and the $53,799 price tag for the most built out version (with the $500 addon for wheels included) should be plenty proof of that. No one bats an eye at $500 in addons when that's only 1% of the total cost.
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Feb 26 '20
Purchasing on behalf of a large company takes place at a greater mental distance than personal purchasing decisions do. Budgeting and purchasing workflows can be so convoluted that the single act of buying some $500 casters can be spread among many people, and it might not even be clear whose money is being spent. $500 is in the milk-money range for lots of companies and, even though $500 for casters is a rip-off, it could literally cost a company more money to scrutinize all milk-money purchasing.
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u/Mitosis Feb 26 '20
Did you watch the video linked? I think he had three great points:
When you're making money when your purchase, it's an entirely different equation
The accessories are going to be, without question, the best option for the professional-grade gear in question, so there's not really an alternative
Even a $500 set of casters is a nearly irrelevant cost to a business with a few dozen employees, especially if it contributes to employee productivity, happiness, or health such as to save you any amount on payroll or productivity (such as by having to train a new hire)
It's not that the price makes sense, it's that the price ceases to matter when you're talking about business purchases when placed next to everything else going on in the business.
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u/StrictZookeepergame0 Feb 26 '20
Aren't businesses supposed to cut costs wherever they can? The "it's just a drop in the bucket" mindset is an easy way for a business to needlessly lose money and go out of business
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u/workingishard Feb 26 '20
The company that is spending up to $53k on a Mac Pro isn't looking to cut $500 off the price by shedding some wheels.
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Feb 27 '20
Sorry I am stupid, is that 53k for ONE Mac?
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u/Dominicus1165 Feb 27 '20
Between 6k and 53k. Yes but the useful ones start at around 15k
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u/Shawnj2 Feb 27 '20
you can literally buy a new Yaris for 15k and you could get an optioned out model 3 for 53k
does it run crysis?
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u/bunnite Feb 27 '20
To be fair it’s hardly a ‘desktop’ at 53 k. I mean it’s really more of a server running MacOS, and although yes-it is still much more expensive than if you built it yourself. It’s relatively competitive compared to the windows side of things with dell and HP. For example, your PC probably has 16 gigabytes of RAM and does just fine. A kitted our Mac has 1,500 gigabytes of ram. At say ~$100 for 16 Gb of ram you’re spending about 10 grand on just the ram. Then throw in the multi thousand dollar cpu and equally expensive gpus and you’ve got a several tens of thousands of dollars in parts right there.
Is there an apple tax? Yes. Is it as extreme as reddit sometimes makes it out to be? Not really.
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u/Psychast Feb 26 '20
That is traditional business sense, but the types of companies buying Apple Mac Pros aren't trad. Businesses that line their walls with the cheapest Dells they can find, it's hyperinflated tech companies and graphic designers. Their image matters almost as much their service.
We're talking about the kind of company that installs on-tap beer kegs in the office on a whim, not the one giving you half-ply tp rolls. When people walk into their offices, they want them to see the status symbol that is Apple, and their stupid stands, and their stupid wheels, and they will pay any exorbitant amount of Venture Captial money to get it. Image is everything when you're trying woo mutli billion dollar finance firms and retailers into buying your shitty service that they'll inevitably change after 2 years anyway.
I see so much waste in high end business, so much "just throw money at it" budget policies, but I can't get mad at Apple for taking full advantage of the market bearing price.
Tl;dr: don't hate the player, hate the game.
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u/rtyoda Feb 26 '20
It’s not so their receipt will say Apple. They’re already buying the computer from Apple either way. It’s so they save time and don’t have to dick around trying to figure out which third-party wheels will work on a Mac Pro Tower (which had limited options as it was just released a few months ago).
Still, as much as I love Apple, I agree that this is really crappy design. If you’re going to overcharge that much for a set of four castors, they’d better be the best fucking castors ever to grace the bottom of a computer tower. Not only are those hideous and don’t even match the tower design, the fact that they don’t lock is ridiculous. 100% agree that Apple failed here.
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u/mule_roany_mare Feb 26 '20
Caster pegs are pretty well standardized. I really hope Apple didn’t go with a proprietary diameter for this.
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I really hope Apple didn’t go with a proprietary
Well, you can probably stop about there
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u/KetoCatsKarma Feb 26 '20
It's like they are just seeing how far they can go before the apple Fanboys will revolt. $700 stand...sure, $550 wheels...okay, no headphone or charging ports...I guess I'll adapt... Next it's going to be needing a $300 mouse pad or your mouse won't work.
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u/ExternalUserError Feb 26 '20
Have you considered installing an Apple Floor? It works best with other 🍎 products.
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u/IAmOgdensHammer Feb 26 '20
Is leveling a floor physically cheaper than one of those at the top spec? It's gotta be close right?
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u/502red428 Feb 26 '20
So hard to say that given you don't know what sort of building or size were looking at.
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u/maybelieveitsbutter Feb 26 '20
Hey, is your Mac Pro running?
Well you better go catch it
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u/oMadureira Feb 26 '20
They see me rollin they hatin
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u/greenlungss Feb 26 '20
those unions tho
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u/gagnonca Feb 26 '20
Yeah I don’t know which is the bigger flex here. The computer or the Jordan’s
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u/Iggyhopper Feb 26 '20
A good thing my man. Love me a good flexin' on some peasants. Ppsshh
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u/sassydodo Feb 26 '20
I mean, wheels, for PC case. Why doesn't it have its own stroller
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Feb 26 '20
I can think of a few reasons why youd want a mobile pc in a production enviroment.
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u/secondsbest Feb 26 '20
And that's why they been making service and AV carts for over half a century. There's no good reason to bolt the wheels directly to such a short tower.
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u/strangecargo Feb 26 '20
Says the guy wearing $1100 sneakers. 😉
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u/benignq Feb 26 '20
oh god here we go. cue the angry swarms of redditors that proclaim that they would never spend more than $20 on any piece of clothing while spending thousands on their own hobbies.
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Feb 26 '20
Why would I spend even $20 on deodorant when my $10,000 computer can't smell me anyways?
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u/FussyZeus Feb 26 '20
But that's different! My hobby is worth that money, theirs isn't, theirs is dumb and so are they for spending all that money!
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u/NeoNejd Feb 26 '20
Video from MKBHD's twitter.
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u/Gbcue Artisinal Material Feb 26 '20
Pleb for not having level floors in his new studio.
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u/crazy_goat Feb 26 '20
Joke's on them! All I could afford after buying a Mac Pro was a Harbor Freight dolly!
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u/NLtbal Feb 26 '20
The crappy design here is the unleveled floor.
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u/tinselsnips Feb 26 '20
Buildings settle, and that's assuming it's not old construction and was even level in the first place.
If your design for anything is reliant on a completely level floor, you're going to have a bad day.
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u/Mysterious_Wanderer Feb 26 '20
This varies based on country and local code, but a lot of ground level floors are angled so water will flow out of the house in case of flooding.
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u/wotoan Feb 26 '20
This is not code for any residential space. Some garages may be sloped as good practice. Interiors will not be. There may be a requirement for the interior floor to be offset a certain number of inches above the exterior grade, but that's it. No one is designing your living room floor to drain via gravity.
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u/pleasekillmeboi Feb 26 '20
Classic exaple of Mac being the absolute worst garbage available.
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u/Catmandingo Feb 26 '20
It's their fault for not buying the 1500$ wheel lock add on.