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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 4d ago

What are you talking about? Yes. It costs money to educate people. It also costs more money educate special ed kids who end up being minimum wage workers their entire lives. It also costs money to educate kids who end up dropping out and becoming gang members. Should we not provide education in low income areas? Should we not provide education to the mentally disabled?

Who cares if it’s more expensive, sometimes, to educate immigrant children when those children (who are usually citizens anyway so it shouldn’t matter) still end up contributing to society in just as much?

Like I said. Congrats, you found out that it costs money to educate kids.

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u/DownrightCaterpillar Conservative 4d ago

It also costs more money educate special ed kids who end up being minimum wage workers their entire lives. It also costs money to educate kids who end up dropping out and becoming gang members. Should we not provide education in low income areas? Should we not provide education to the mentally disabled?

Of course we should educate them. The government, local, state, and federal, has a moral, constitutional, and of course statutory obligation to provide an education to every American. Not every foreigner, thank goodness! What a disaster that would be. Imagine educating the special ed children of the world; how expensive! And I'm sure every American rejects that idea.

Yet, would Americans reject the noble and charitable notion of educating all of the special ed cases of the world if... we could house them and educate them without injuring the educational progress of Americans, and without incurring a net burden on society? I think opposition to educating all special ed children on planet earth would be quite low if it weren't for the problems it would cause for Americans.

Which brings us to why immigrant families are such a problem; they are a net negative for an entire generation, and can't become significantly net-positive until the 3rd generation. Which is why anybody who's read about the topic, and is concerned about their fiscal impacts and the tax dollars available to solve native-born Americans' problems, supports an immigration moratorium.

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 4d ago

Wrong. It is unconstitutional for a state government to refuse public education to even children of illegal immigrants.

You can keep making things up about immigration not being profitable until the third generation. No matter what you say, you can’t use a Time Machine to predict how the world will look three generations from now. If you think you can, go invest in the stock market.

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u/DownrightCaterpillar Conservative 3d ago

I never said anything about refusing to educate the children of people already here.I said there should be an immigration moratorium, thus preventing people from bringing their net costly children here.

It is perfectly constitutional and well within the powers of the executive branch to deny entry to anyone. That is at their discretion per Arizona v. United States

The Federal Government’s broad, undoubted power over immigration and alien status rests, in part, on its constitutional power to “establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” Art. I, §8, cl. 4, and on its inherent sovereign power to control and conduct foreign relations, see Toll v. Moreno, 458 U. S. 1, 10. Federal governance is extensive and complex. Among other things, federal law specifies categories of aliens who are ineligible to be admitted to the United States, 8 U. S. C. §1182... and specifies which aliens may be removed and the procedures for doing so, see §1227.

So, yes, while the government has the obligation to provide such a illegal alien with an education given they're under a certain age threshold, they can also prevent their entry or remove said alien to their home country, and thus cease providing them with an education. Nice try though.