r/Conservative • u/interestingfactoid Conservative • 2d ago
China Is Rapidly Building Up Weapons And Warfare Operations Flaired Users Only
https://thefederalist.com/2024/12/27/report-china-rapidly-builds-up-weapons-and-psychological-warfare-operations/32
u/AspiringProbe Canadian Conservative 1d ago
Could it be as simple as what we see in Russia, where countries with struggling economies invest in wartime infrastructure to stimulate spending and quell any possible dissent on the home front?
China has a growing middle class that is likely experiencing a squeeze in their standard of living as well. I trade the Asian markets occasionally and these Chinese stocks are all dickered, so that could be driving some of this.
China’s position as the world’s creditor is interesting, so you’re going to lend us all this money and then… make war on us? Well assuredly we won’t be paying that back, then. Simple minded perhaps but always struck me as a bluff.
12
u/ITrCool pro-Ukraine conservative 1d ago
Given that they build entire ghost cities that are 98% abandoned and never lived in, I don’t think their government puts much thought to common sense as of late. Except when they’re razor-focused on a goal.
11
u/balljoint Classical Liberal 1d ago
The ghost cities are 95% abandoned but every apartment/house is bought and paid for or mortgaged. The Chinese people invest all their money into real estate as they don't trust their governmental control over money/bonds and view the stock market as gambling. The Chinese also believe that if a place is lived in or even furnished then it loses it's value, that's why all these apartments and houses are totally empty. China keeps building these ghost cities because there's demand for them and no one lives in them because if they do then they lose their value. That's why China has ghost cities.
3
u/aliislam_sharun Conservative Capitalist 1d ago
Whoops I should have read your comment before writing mine
1
2
u/aliislam_sharun Conservative Capitalist 1d ago
Much of that is true because buildings were constructed and for one reason or another never filled with people, but the main thing to understand here is that Chinese people have a different culture from us. When they move in to a place if someone lived there before them they believe they inherit their "bad karma" so they prefer to move into newly constructed apartments. So they build the giant unfinished buildings and slowly finish them out as people move into them. If no one ever moves in then you're left with a giant "ghost building". There's no shortage of corruption and negligence that feeds into it as well.
Not defending China in any way here just shedding some light on that
3
u/Material-Afternoon16 Conservative 1d ago
Yep in the event China attacks Taiwan or anyone else, all their US owned debt is basically worthless.
Though they have been reducing their investment in US bonds dramatically in recent years, which could be a sign.
2
u/Arbiter2562 Goldwater Conservative 1d ago
I mean so have we with manufacturing. At a certain point economics don’t matter.
Germany was France’s greatest trading partner before the Archduke’s assassination
27
u/CFC1983 Ultra MAGA 1d ago
We all got to remember China has next to no combat experience so it is questionable how effective a fighting force will be with leadership that has only read about the topic, since their last larger scale combat has either Korean war or The Sino Indian war in 1962
2
u/spartanburger91 Reagan Conservative 1d ago
You're forgetting the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979. They got wrecked by Vietnam.
77
u/ITrCool pro-Ukraine conservative 2d ago
One of four things I theorize here:
- Taiwan invasion forces (most likely)
- Forces to go into Russia once Russian military might is severely reduced from the war in Ukraine, and start controlling Russian eastern territories and begin turning Russia into a vassal state (not likely)
- Invasion force against the US, starting with Alaska (least likely, very high failure and loss of life risk for them)
- Just a simple deterrent symbol. “Don’t try to invade us, you can’t win here, not even one village can fall to you” (somewhat likely)
46
u/CookingUpChicken Millennial Conservative 1d ago
I wouldn't say an invasion on the US has any likelyhood. I'd say China the furthest China would ever go is an annexation of Taiwan, Communist takeover of the Korean peninsula, and occupation of Japan. I think an occupation of indochina could be on the table as well.
29
u/ITrCool pro-Ukraine conservative 1d ago
True. I do see Japan being a bit of a bloody takeover for them however, if it were to succeed, as Japanese forces are also building up quite a lot lately and their military has experience with defense and invasions, more so than China’s, not mentioned much in the news. I think it’s because Japan sees what China is doing and wants to be ready themselves.
17
u/specter491 Conservative 1d ago
An attack on Korea or Japan is an attack on the US. That is almost as unlikely as an attack on direct US soil.
5
26
u/Hectoriu Conservative 1d ago
They seem to be doing just fine using the left to tear apart this country. I don't see them resorting to direct conflict with us yet.
9
u/ytilonhdbfgvds Constitutional Conservative 1d ago
Exactly, much of the non-sense you see online is literally psyops waged against the US to divide and conquer. The more we recognize this the less effective it is.
15
u/Communalbuttplug British Conservative 1d ago
You are missing a 5th and more likely situation.
Enemies of nato have used the last 50 years of neoliberalism to infiltrate all levels of goverment and private businesses under the guise of diversity, refugees amd asylum seekers to get their troops on the ground.
If war kicks off while nato has the initial advantage they would not be able to fight a conventional war while also defending against domestic attacks.
Look at how a few nutters in europe with guns and trucks can cause entire capitals to come to a stand still.
The British army is 110,000.
The British intelligence services are currently monitoring 60,000 potential terrorists considered to be high risk.
There are about 5000 armed police in the UK.
If a war kicks off it would be impossible for the British forces to deploy internationally as just 1000 of those 60000 kicking off could bring the entire nation to its knees and the troops would be needed at home.
France is in an even worse position domestically and so is germany.
That's the big three in europe.
Only the eastern European nations would be able to commit troops to fighting abroad and that would leave Europe even more open to attack from a Russian offensive especially if China pushed with them.
If ww3 is inevitable then the USA should consider Europe lost already.
5
u/Material-Afternoon16 Conservative 1d ago
Yep China won't need to invade the US. In the event China launches a major attack on Taiwan (and possibly Japan and Korea), their "attack" on the US will involve CCP sleeper cells who are already embedded in the US.
It's likely the CCP has military posing as students, restaurants workers, etc. when shit hits the fan they'll scramble and destroy infrastructure. Probably small stuff like disabling railroads, bridges, electrical substations, etc. but they'll do it in every major metro simultaneously one night. Most of the attackers will probably get away and just go to class/work the next day like nothing happened.
3
u/OP_GothicSerpent 10th Amendment 1d ago
Taiwan invasion forces
Had the Chinese-owned left won last month, Xi would probably be cutting the deployment orders now. But with Trump in charge, a Taiwan invasion’s too risky.
0
u/CookingUpChicken Millennial Conservative 1d ago
Trump doesn't spill blood over Taiwan. I think most know this.
9
u/AtomicPhantomBlack Ben Shapiro Conservative 1d ago
Yes, because if China threatens to invade, we'll threaten to come to Taiwans aid. China knows they can't win a war with America, so they won't start one, therefore, no blood will be spilled.
1
147
u/Reaganson Constitutional Conservative 1d ago
All they need is drones. Our government doesn’t seem to have the ability to respond in any way.