r/CollegeBasketball • u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators • 1d ago
Tennessee’s 30 point loss is the biggest regular season loss by an AP #1 EVER
SINCE 1951*** my bad Kentucky did beat St John’s by 41 that year! But this is #2
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u/DrSleepyTime15 Florida Gators 1d ago
What was the prior record?
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
This is based off my quick scan of sports reference, but I’m pretty sure it was Miami’s 90-63 home win over Duke in 2013
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u/bug_man_ North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
Worth noting that was a very good Miami team. I believe they won the ACC reg season and ACCT that year too
That game also didn't mean Duke were frauds, sadly. They still had a good year
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
You’re god damn right bug man! Miami was in the midst of what would become a 14 game win streak that led them to a #2 ranking. Only to finish 7-4 across their last 11 games and lose in the sweet 16.
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u/LacesOut19 18h ago
Was that the year with Larkin's son? As a Reds fan, I loved that team and was rooting for them all year
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u/Bilboswaggins21 16h ago
Yep. Shane Larkin. Kenny Kadji. A few others I can’t recall. But they were as talented 1-5 as any other ACC team. Duke got their revenge in Cameron IIRC. Ryan Kelly came back from injury and scored like 20 in the first half. I might be mixing years.
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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago
I mean why would it? One game in basketball means jack shit. Villanova lost to Oklahoma by almost 25 points in the 2015-16 season and then beat them by almost 45 points in the Final Four that year. Honestly that's why I don't love the single elimination format of the NCAA Tourney.
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u/StarThompson Florida State Seminoles 12h ago
I was at that game! Grateful to the Canes for letting me experience how rushing the court feels like
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u/thayila Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago
what actually is the SEC this year
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u/collin-h Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago
working on their rebrand to the SUC
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u/nosciencephd Kentucky Wildcats 17h ago
We're in the basketball subreddit. Doesn't really work in here this year.
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u/harrietlegs 17h ago
Every team in the SEC has a Kenpom over 50 or better.. besides South Carolina.
So yeah the SEC is stacked this year
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u/gpcampbell92 Alabama Crimson Tide 15h ago
Sports Ultimate Champions Conference or better known as SUCC
/s
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u/lowes18 Florida State Seminoles • FAU Owls 1d ago
We can now stop pretending Auburn isn't #1
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u/Need_Burner_Now Auburn Tigers 1d ago
Please let us get through the week before start that. But thank you. Just hold onto that.
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u/fcocyclone Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
Know this feeling.
We could follow you upward to #2, but winning in Lubbock is anything but easy.
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u/StlCyclone Iowa State Cyclones • Big 12 10h ago
Probably a coin flip in Lubbock
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u/Ben_Dotato Iowa State Cyclones 9h ago
I'm terrified to play in Lubbock. They've got a great team and great environment
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u/CockCommander15 South Carolina Gamecocks 22h ago
Yeah that’s right. Gotta get through the 11TH first 😅
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u/Rare-Metal9715 Florida Gators 1d ago
We’ll let everyone know they aren’t on feb 8th
This conference is only big enough for one orange team
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u/Crump_daddy Auburn Tigers 1d ago
Screenshotting this
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u/DoggedDoggystyle 18h ago
Please delete on another Gators behalf. I don’t have that same confidence. We’re not all psycho
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u/ConflictSudden UAB Blazers • Montevallo Falcons 18h ago
Then is there room for only one of the red ones? It's clearly Arkansas, right?
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u/LovieBeard Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago
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u/DymonBak 1d ago
Were those teams AP ranked?
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u/graywh Lipscomb Bisons • Vanderbilt Commodores 15h ago edited 15h ago
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/men/1968-polls.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/men/2024-polls.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/men/1951-polls.html
That UK-St John's game was the day before the first AP poll of the season and St. John's wasn't ranked 1 in the coaches poll
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u/DrSleepyTime15 Florida Gators 19h ago
The March dates look like tournament teams, so not sure if they were just a 1 seed or AP #1
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u/graywh Lipscomb Bisons • Vanderbilt Commodores 15h ago edited 15h ago
Houston and UCLA were ranked 1 & 2 all season -- they ended up meeting in the semi-final
the tournament was only 23 teams back then, and there was no concept of seeding in each region bracket like there is now
Iowa St and Houston met in the Big 12 championship game
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u/ohnoyoudidnot Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
Ah yes ISU beating Houston by 28 last year close behind. And our team is better this year.
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
Thank you for the correction! I changed the description on the post to reflect this! Of course I missed one of the very last losses back in the 50’s 🤦🏼♂️
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u/NationalJustice Auburn Tigers 1d ago
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u/NationalJustice Auburn Tigers 1d ago
Wait you said regular season loss, never mind
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u/Briggity_Brak 1d ago
Still not true. Someone else pointed out that Kentucky beat St. John's by like 40 in December of 1951.
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u/100ozofjuice Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 1d ago
Looks like we have some frauds
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u/bezzlege Louisville Cardinals 1d ago
sometimes you just have a flop of a night that snowballs. in 2012 Louisville lost a road game to Providence by 31, people were livid at Rick. We ended up in the Final Four and only lost because Anthony Davis is insane
the key is how Tennessee will respond to this
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u/Infinite303 Florida Gators 1d ago
UK who put 106 on this team is losing to Georgia, shit happens 🤷🏾
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
We might have enough to put together 2-3 different SEC Circles of Suck for this year.
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u/100ozofjuice Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 1d ago
100%. I was telling myself the whole game to keep watching to see how Tennessee will respond because this is important for predicting how March games will go
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u/wooper5249 Tennessee Volunteers 18h ago
We shot 14%. Mostly open looks. That won’t happen again
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u/MountainCatLaw Kentucky Wildcats 16h ago
Or...and hear me out on this...it will happen again. Probably in March.
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u/wooper5249 Tennessee Volunteers 12h ago
Dont wana hear shit about march until yall can start beating double digit seeds again 😭
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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago
This is dumb af and it's moronic that people are upvoting it. One game means jack shit. There was a 70 point swing between the two games Nova and OU played in the 2015-16 season. Or like with these teams they both played Virginia and UT beat UVA by more. But I guess they're complete frauds if you don't understand variance and sample size.
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u/100ozofjuice Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 1d ago
Yeah you’re right tbh but my ego feels good
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u/the_cajun88 Tennessee Volunteers 1d ago
oh no, we lost a game
how will we ever make the tournament now
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Careful. Bracket Boy might take that as a challenge. (and as an excuse to catapult Duke to the #1 overall seed)
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u/lurk4ever1970 Kansas Jayhawks 1d ago
As much as I can't stand Fran Fraschilla, he makes one good point: Teams play five amazing games and five awful games every season. The rest are who you really are.
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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 15h ago
Poor Florida used one of their amazing games on a loss.
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u/lurk4ever1970 Kansas Jayhawks 13h ago
It happens. I've seen Kansas teams eke out a win when they played like crap, because the other team did too.
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
I would argue great teams play more like 1-3 awful games per season, but point taken
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u/lurk4ever1970 Kansas Jayhawks 12h ago
"Awful" is relative. Sometimes you win those games because the other team's awful is worse than yours, or the opponent is so far behind on talent that it doesn't really matter.
For a great team, a shaky 10-point win over a low-major team is probably one of the awfuls.
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u/joshuakyle94 Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago
I think this happened because I glazed Tennessee after they smacked us.
Now I realize with Kentucky losing that road games in sec are going to be 9/10 times a loss. Road in the sec this year will be devastating
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
Looking forward to our visit to Fayetteville this weekend! Not too many things I love more than giving coach Cal an L
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u/joshuakyle94 Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago
Good possibility you could kick our ass. I hope not. But it is what it is
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u/Realistic-Pea-3327 Florida Gators 1d ago
In my mind the game comes down to Thiero for y’all. Fland and Wagner are solid guards but they don’t stack up with the gators backourt. If Thiero comes out confident and takes control early, we could be in for a great game
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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats 23h ago
Lol if you thought the Tennessee game was fun, just wait. Gators by 100
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Why am I more inclined to laugh at the AP voters than at Tennessee?
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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 15h ago
Because AP voters are more deserving of being laughed at. But laughing at Tennessee is more fulfilling.
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 14h ago
They (the AP voters) love to think what they say is fact, when really the AP poll is nothing more than a glorified opinion that shouldn't matter more than your opinion, my opinion, or the opinion of anyone else reading this comment.
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u/McNuggieAMR Oregon Ducks 22h ago
Hey at least we aren’t the only (previously) top ten team getting shat on
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u/War-eaglern Auburn Tigers 15h ago
I’m more impressed that Florida shot just 40% and won by thirty. The stats for this game are weird
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u/CloneEngineer Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
Good, ol, rocky top... Rocky top lost by thirty
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u/CornFedIABoy Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
Die War Eagle, die!
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u/NeverBeenStung North Alabama Lions 1d ago
Am I missing a joke?
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u/CornFedIABoy Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
ISU needs Auburn to take a L so we can be #1.
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u/noodlesalad_ UConn Huskies 1d ago
It's not all it's cracked up to be. Rather be #2 honestly. There's just so much baggage at #1.
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u/CornFedIABoy Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago
Easy to say for someone that’s been there. I don’t think ISU has ever been AP #1. Let us decide for ourselves if the view is worth it.
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u/WaltMitty 1d ago
That foul in the last seconds was just to cement their place in the record books.
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u/Solgiest Duke Blue Devils 1d ago
It's hard to see a 30 point loss on a team's schedule at any point and take them seriously as final four contenders.
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u/ctbro025 UConn Huskies 1d ago
2014 UConn lost to Louisville by 33 in the regular season finale but ended up winning it all. Though TBH that title was out of left field. Lol
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u/fancycheesus Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago
Uconn breaks every convention. Yall are permanent anomalies
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
UConn either wins it all or falls well short of the tournament. No in between. It's baffling.
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u/SampleText369 Duke Blue Devils 21h ago
I know it's absolutely crazy. Just when I forget they exist they win it all twice in a row and it wasn't even close.
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u/beepos Duke Blue Devils 1d ago
Yeah but thats just Uconn doing Uconn things
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u/Loxicity UConn Huskies • Columbia Lions 1d ago
Pretty much any contender rule should have an asterisk that says, "Does not apply if you're UConn."
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u/the615Butcher Florida Gators 1d ago
Why you gotta bring that up bruh?
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u/Blingblaowburrr Florida Gators 1d ago
I will never get over our 2014 team not winning the ‘ship. Goddamn, they were so good, and so likable! Really wanted them to bring that one home…
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u/jaysornotandhawks Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Yeah, not like UConn spoiled some other team's own magical run on their way to that title or anything.
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u/Mdtwheeler Duke Blue Devils • Murray State Racers 1d ago
Like the Mongolians you are the exception
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u/Plane-Tie6392 1d ago
2016 Nova lost by 23 to OU and then beat them by 44 in the Final Four. People put too much stock into individual games.
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u/BhamTioMateo Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago
I once watched SEC regular season champ, SEC tourney champ, with two nba players on the roster Alabama get waxed by an Oklahoma team that did not make the tournament
Shit happens sometimes
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u/BhamTioMateo Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago
Ppl Noah Clowney plays for the Brooklyn Nets. He got 14 points for the Brooklyn Nets in an NBA game yesterday, do you know how difficult it is to get on an NBA team and see serious minutes?
In this game against Oklahoma he got outplayed by some center with a beard that looked like he was a Deadliest Catch cast member.
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u/Obvious_Chapter2082 North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago
To be fair, Kentucky beat us by like 35 in the 21/22 season. Although we probably weren’t taken seriously until we actually got into the tournament
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u/Igota31chevy Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Beat Kansas by 20 in Allen Fieldhouse that season and they went on to win the championship...
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u/SampleText369 Duke Blue Devils 21h ago
Did Kentucky seriously throttle both championship contenders that year? 😭
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u/Igota31chevy Kentucky Wildcats 16h ago
Yep. Beat UNC 98-69 in the Champions Classic in December, beat Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse 80-62 in late January, upset to St. Peters in March. Just shows how unpredictable the sport can be.
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u/jrBeandip Kansas Jayhawks • Wichita State Shockers 15h ago
18 but ya'll were up way more than that so point stands. Felt like 30+. And yes, I'd take a beating like that any year for the ship.
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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Arizona State Sun Devils 1d ago
Would be hilarious if this ends up being the year that Tennessee breaks through haha.
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u/yahboiyeezy Houston Cougars 1d ago
Welcome to the SEC this year. Will be quite funny to see this hurt their seeding come March
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u/Inevitable-Rush-2752 Tennessee Volunteers 18h ago
Even funnier if the seeding doesn’t hinder an SEC team’s run to the final four. Seeding matters until tip time, and then the madness starts creeping in.
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u/yahboiyeezy Houston Cougars 17h ago
I fully expect the SEC teams that get bids to be under seeded as I think even the best teams will have 4-6 losses. It will be incredibly lucky for any of the top teams to end up winning away at Tennessee, at Auburn, at Kentucky, at Florida, at Alabama, or even at Texas A&M. Just an insane ask for the league this year. I look forward to seeing it all
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u/JackpotThePimp Florida State Seminoles 1d ago
I'm mostly a football guy, but how the hell did Tennessee not bother showing up for a top 10 game?
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u/BullAlligator Florida Gators 1d ago
home court advantage gets to teams a lot
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u/Inevitable-Rush-2752 Tennessee Volunteers 18h ago
Home court advantage does play in, but unless you guys spiked their water bottles with LSD I think the Vols have some self reflection coming up this week.
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u/One_Stranger_5661 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago
College basketball is a giant mess at its own discretion.
Exactly why I love it so much
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u/EdgeBandanna Illinois Fighting Illini 19h ago
I don't know what to make of all these huge losses by top teams this year.
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u/Flogazii West Virginia Mountaineers 17h ago
UK over St Johns in 1951 did it by a way bigger margin
maybe check your facts before starting a thread gatorguy
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u/UCBearcats Cincinnati Bearcats 11h ago
So many of the road teams yesterday got completely destroyed and couldn't make a shot to save a life.
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u/BackgroundExternal70 7h ago
Question: Has a CBB team ever lost a regular season game by 30 points or more and went on to reach the Final Four in the same season?
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u/MagicGrit Tennessee Volunteers 7h ago
UCLA beat Houston by 32 back in 1968 too! This loss is 3rd worst
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u/TechSudz Duke Blue Devils 18h ago
Becoming the darling of college hoops only to then lose by 30 to your rival... That's the Rick Barnes experience in a nutshell.
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u/Inevitable-Rush-2752 Tennessee Volunteers 18h ago
Things like this are easy to say when a dunk by Duke’s latest ESPN-porn star dominates coverage over a slate of games. Lol
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Purdue Boilermakers 16h ago
Yeah you can’t convince me this team is making the final four.
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u/AmbassadorHaunting48 Charleston Cougars 20h ago
I mean UT is a trash team with trash players built upon an ESPN boosted trash program. Are you not entertained?
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u/imused2it Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago
Well that makes me feel a little better.