r/CapitolConsequences • u/buffyfan12 Light Bringer • May 16 '23
Jan. 6 rioter who bragged that 'spirit of God' compelled him into Senate with knife ordered to prison CONVICTION
https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-riot/jan-6-rioter-who-bragged-that-spirit-of-god-compelled-him-into-senate-with-knife-ordered-to-prison/91
May 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '24
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
plead the blood of Jesus over it
Wtf does that word-salad even mean? (No, I really don't want to know. It's taken years to scrub the religious pollution from my brain.)
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May 17 '23
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
Same. My family is mostly mormon, I get it. They...uh...have their own unique ways of using the language.
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u/Hot_Ad_2117 May 17 '23
It means you are asking God to accept the blood of Jesus so you can get his action on something like casting out a devil, curing cancer, overcoming doubts about all the BS you believe. If you read my comment above below Joe Recuerdo you will see the whole gory details.
So if it pertains to something that can't be confirmed physically, say casting out a demon, then it works, if you shout it long and hard enough. It's like the Jedi force, you have to project it, believe it (if it fails you didn't believe enough), keep the chant going until some sort of euphoria settles over your emotional state and you take pride in achieving some powerful action (all unseen and unverified by reality).
Hope this helps.
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
But...Jesus' blood was only shed b/c God demanded it to begin with...why would he not accept it? Ffs, I can't with these morons.
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u/Glum-Cartoonist-1745 May 18 '23
Because the goalposts of Christianity are mounted on rocket fired wheels, omnidirectionally, against all of the allied forces of reason, accountability, or logic.
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May 18 '23
They believe they killed an innocent man (Jesus), and were rewarded for it with eternal salvation. Naturally, they wanted to kill a bunch of innocent people again here and expected to be rewarded for it.
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May 17 '23
Christianity is a mental illness.
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May 17 '23
In any other setting if you told people there’s an invisible man in the sky who watches everyone all the time and keeps track of our deeds, then rewards/punishes us at the time of their death you’d be pink slipped to the psych unit and diagnosed with something.
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
I was told that our dead ancestors also watch everything we do, along with Jesus. And that after "the great resurrection", everyone we know and love will watch our entire lives play out like a movie, skipping no details. That doesn't create any weird mental issues at all. All totally sane and reasonable./s
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u/mypetocean May 17 '23 edited May 17 '23
It's been years and I'm still struggling with tsunamis of internalized guilt, the ceaseless feeling of being judged even when I'm alone and doing exactly what I know I ought to be doing, and the panic attacks that go along with all that.
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u/Hot_Ad_2117 May 17 '23
Indoctrination at a young age into believing the absurd has worked quite well for all religions. When you throw in a evil devil out to deceive and a burning hell you can keep plenty of people from engaging in reasonable doubt. There are some many problems with belief in a Christian or Jewish or Muslim god convincing a believer is like trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon. We as non-believers most of the time don't know where to start dismantling the crazy.
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
So true, and well said. Helping people dismantle is extremely challenging, because you either have to first help them see that their reasoning is fallacious and in what ways or that their underlying assumed premises need reexamination. The overall catch being that you pretty much have to pace it as "trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon", proceed with very gentle and empathic epistemology...or you risk the backfire effect, doubling-down, etc. (Perfect simile, btw.) And for any of that to be effective, they have to be at least partially open to admitting they may have been wrong.
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u/TjW0569 May 17 '23
Talk about a boring way to spend time. Is this their way of saying we're all going to hell?
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u/aLittleQueer May 17 '23
It sounds like Hell for more than just the boredom, imo. Hilariously, none of the adults who taught me this had at all considered what I immediately pointed out to them: the flip side is that we would all have to watch every intimate detail of the lives of every person we know...and I personally really don't want to watch the moment of my own conception (nor my siblings/niblings/parents/etc), thankyouverymuchthatsbeyondnasty.
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May 17 '23
Religion is a mental illness. Maybe not Taoism but that is more of a philosophy. No Deity.
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May 17 '23
I would only agree to a point with this. There are extremists in every major religion. The difference with Christianity in particular is that because it's numbers are declining so quickly globally, the extremists are quickly becoming the majority.
Within the US there are not Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, etc. trying to forcefully inject their beliefs into every facet of US society. That is exclusively Christianity to the detriment of all others. I honestly believe that within the next 20-30 years it is not outside of the realm of possibility, if we manage to survive this current onslaught, that Christianity is no longer viewed as a legitimate religion but as a death cult/domestic terrorist organization and is treated as such.
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u/cromstantinople May 17 '23
Plead the blood of Jesus? Wtf does that even mean? That sounds psychotic.
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u/Hot_Ad_2117 May 17 '23
"I plead the blood of Jesus". I have said this phrase many times in my teens - 20 yo.
Jesus shed his blood to save the world.
It took that so God, his father could muster up the courage to forgive the people he created. It always took the blood of some innocent, pure being to convince the Jewish God he should forgive his children.
I have to ask every religious person, what demand do you make of your children before you forgive them? First off, I am almost never needing to demand any reason to forgive my children. They are a reflection of me. They act and behave very similar to how I and his mother act. If they do something wrong, 9 times out of 10 it is because they saw that in my behavior or inherited my short temper, etc. But yet God is a better parent than us humans even though he demanded the death of an innocent person to forgive. If he is so powerful why didn't he just say, I forgive you all and look, I'll heal you for free and keep you from starving or dying from the elements. No, that would involve getting "too" involved in our lives.
Christians need to realize they are part of human sacrifice religion. Doubting such obvious crap is allowed. Fearing some invisible devil and burning hell are more BS created to keep believers from using reason to dispel the BS.
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u/jeffreyd00 May 16 '23
Take you wherever the spirit leads you. In this case, prison!
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u/jimtow28 May 17 '23
That's okay. There's a reason for everything. All part of God's Plan™
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May 17 '23
The prayer warriors are assembling as we speak! “God will protect you!”
(A week in he gets his first ass beating)
“God has a plan, we’ll keep praying!”
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 May 17 '23
I’m on the Thoughts & Prayers Committee for Patriots facing Prison.
(If you want the Thoughts & Prayers Group for a school shooting that’s down the hall on the left. You can’t miss it. There’s a big red flag …)
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u/AustinBike May 17 '23
He was only found guilty because god chose not to testify on his behalf.
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u/MissRachiel May 17 '23
I was raised by fundies. Here's how it's going to go.
Right now Mr. Black's faith is being tested. By Satan. Personally. Mr. Black will repeat some mangled Bible quote, like from the third or fourth chapter of 1 Peter. If you suffer for right, you are blessed or maybe If you suffer for being a Christian, give praise that you bear the name.
Nothing will shake his conviction that Jesus or the Holy Spirit led him into the chamber, because his prosecution is proof. In his mind it's PERsecution, not PROsecution. He might engage in a bit of theocratic warfare and lie about his remorse if it looks like it will get him out any faster, but that's acceptable in God's eyes.
One of my siblings volunteers as a spiritual provider for indigenous inmates, and they see a lot of Christian inmates with this mindset. If it's all just a test from Satan, they aren't really responsible for what landed them in prison in the first place. The crime doesn't matter, and Jesus forgives anyway. All this unfairness is more proof of how badly Satan has corrupted the world.
It isn't just inmates, either. Right now my parents' cult is being investigated for institutional coverups of pedophilia, much like the Catholic church was. There isn't much in the news yet outside the state of Pennsylvania, but the momentum is growing. I have no doubt this will eventually become a nationwide debacle. With good reason. Meanwhile, my parents and other members of their cult are defending actual pedophiles and the people hiding their crimes using these same Bible verses and others.
My folks will tell you pedophiles are evil, of course, just like Mr. Black would say traitors are. But they personally are only targeted for being Christians. All the negative attention they get, the prosecution of criminals within their ranks, and the way that reflects on the people who belong to their faith, isn't in any way their fault. They don't have to change anything they're doing or thinking. In fact, Satan sending so many of their brothers in faith to prison is proof that they're doing exactly what they should be!
Obviously all Christians aren't like that, but the mythos that developed around Christian persecution is very useful to people who see the Christian identity as a tool to advance their secular goals. And since the political arena is full of people doing exactly that, it is a huge enabling force when it comes to smoothing over the facts of these criminal cases. It's too early to tell, but this is a big part of why I worry about what these folks will get up to once they've served their time. I think a lot of them will reach the end of their probation still believing they've done nothing wrong.
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u/jaguarthrone May 17 '23
Buy the ticket, take the ride.....another life down the toilet....
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u/Ferris_Wheel_Skippy May 17 '23
All in the name of a fail son trust fund baby who only became president bc of a stupid reality tv show
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 May 19 '23
Trump’s famous line,”You’re fired!” is ironic as Trump himself couldn’t believe the American voters “fired” him.
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u/TjW0569 May 17 '23
Buy the ticket
Take the ride
Another life down
The Trump worship slideBurma Shave
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u/Alger6860 May 17 '23
The article says he was compelled by god. The very next sentence was “ I just wanted to go inside”. Those seem at odds.
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May 17 '23
Yep was just talking to a sky daddy myself and I'm pretty sure he claims no responsibility for this dumbass.
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May 17 '23
My sky daddy says they shouldn’t have rioted and gone into the Capitol, and that he’s giving them prison because they deserve it. After all “vengeance is for the Lord” and im pretty sure the Bible has verses about listening to leaders and your government.
Now who can we believe is right? My god or theirs?
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u/Glum-Cartoonist-1745 May 18 '23
"Render unto Caesar what is due Caesar." Christ HIMSELF said that. Really!
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u/badwolf42 May 17 '23
Maybe he'll appeal to the SC and they'll uphold his sincerely held belief as an acceptable reason.
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u/WorstHatFreeSoup May 17 '23
Wonder how compelled he’ll be making license plates and trading cigarettes?
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u/robreddity May 17 '23
No Joshua Matthew Black, you incredible moron, you deluded, ignorant un-American fuck. It was your decision.
And it's man's law that puts you in prison.
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u/Self-Comprehensive May 17 '23
How exactly does one go about "pleading the blood of Jesus"?
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u/e-zimbra False flag football May 17 '23
Bit of an overreaction to someone losing an election, I would say.
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u/Hot_Ad_2117 May 17 '23
Those ridiculous hats were and still are a giant flashing red light over the person wearing it and it warns people, "I am a gullible idiot".
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u/MycologistPutrid7494 May 17 '23
Eww. What's on his face? Did he injure himself or is that a meth scab?
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u/buffyfan12 Light Bringer May 17 '23
it is in the article:
Blood is clearly visible on Black’s face in the YouTube video and other images that day from the Capitol. He attributed the wound to being shot by a projectile that went through his left cheek.
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May 17 '23
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u/buffyfan12 Light Bringer May 17 '23
I understand your joke, Reddit will not and will take that out of context and it won’t be good.
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u/Rich_ApplicationBank May 17 '23
Jail. Sentence at least 20 years.
Unsafe for himself, unsafe near others, unwell.
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u/PedriTerJong May 17 '23
Possible schizophrenic?
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u/Glum-Cartoonist-1745 May 18 '23
Great description though for ANY individual who for 7 plus years decided what to believe on ANY given day, based PRIMARILY on the ever-changing, contradictory, fickle, paranoid, and deranged tweets of an overempowered psychopath infant...well. yeah.
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u/aboveonlysky9 May 17 '23
And now your god is sending you to jail because he knows you’re a dipshit.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe May 17 '23
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.
C’mon man…
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u/KeelanStar May 17 '23
Prosecutors allege that Black played a key, even bellwether, role in the breach.
Less than 2 years
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u/pit-of-despair May 16 '23
The power of idiocy compels you.