r/CFB • u/bakonydraco Tulane • Boise State Bandwagon • Sep 15 '24

All AP Voter Ballots - Week 4 Analysis

Week 4

This is a series I've now been doing for 8 years. The post attempts to visualize all AP Poll ballots in a single image. Additionally it sorts each AP voter by similarity to the group. Notably, this is not a measure of how "good" a voter is, just how consistent they are with the group. Especially preseason, having a diversity of opinions and ranking styles is advantageous to having a true consensus poll. Polls tend to coalesce towards each other as the season goes on.

The most consistent voter this week is Matt Murschel. Michael Katz is first on the season, followed by Shaun Goodwin, Blair Kerkhoff, Bill Oram, and Alex Taylor were behind him in the top 5.

At the other extreme, Jon Wilner was once again the biggest outlier this week. He is also the biggest outlier this season, followed by Dave Preston, Koki Riley, Greg Madia, and David Jablonski.

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u/NewWrap693 Texas Longhorns Sep 15 '24

Aggie and ou voters putting texas third. Love the petty.

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u/Outrageous_Picture39 Texas A&M • Sam Houston Sep 15 '24

On a related note, Robert Cessna has been at The Eagle for decades and is surely close to retiring.

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u/funwithtrout Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Sep 15 '24

We hoped the same about Bohls, but he just moved to the Chronicle.

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u/carlosdanger31 Oklahoma State • Oregon State Sep 15 '24

At least now that we aren’t in the same conference he has stopped voting us 5-10 spots below the average 😂

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u/NoBudget5275 Texas A&M Aggies Sep 15 '24

1 of the 2 Texas voters also put Texas at 3rd. Don’t think there’s really a right or wrong answer here with such a small sample size to work with. I think Texas may have the bigger argument for being 1st, but seeing how Michigan played this week I can kind of see why the top 3 are a big ?

I’d probably go 1. Texas 2. Georgia 3. Ohio State But, you could really flip any of those teams

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u/maybejesuswasblack Texas Longhorns Sep 15 '24

The Texas voters also consistently hate Texas. I am shocked Kirk Bohls didn't have us outside the top 5.

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u/NoBudget5275 Texas A&M Aggies Sep 15 '24

I’ve kind of noticed that also. Which from experience of us being over ranked so much I wouldn’t hold it against them for doing so. I’ve come to the point where I hate seeing us ranked by anyone.

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u/AngryQuadricorn College Football Playoff • Sickos Sep 16 '24

One of the UT voters also has Texas 3rd?

EDIT: It appears the voters generally rate their own teams lower than their peers do.

u/wjackson42 Georgia Bulldogs Sep 15 '24

Adam Zucker is based af

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u/DommyMommyKarlach Texas Longhorns Sep 15 '24

Guarantee his face and that ballot are already in yalls locker room lol

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u/wjackson42 Georgia Bulldogs Sep 15 '24

Honestly I wish more voters would have voted like that, we look like the 5th best team in the SEC right now who so happens to play 1-4, 3 on the road

u/Beneficial_Present29 Arizona State • Tennessee Sep 15 '24

lmao the Arizona writer putting us at 25 and unranking Arizona is *chef's kiss*

u/bakonydraco Tulane • Boise State Bandwagon Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

Suppose you consider these ballots as CFP selections. Here's how the picture looks right now:

Conference	Autobid
SEC	Texas: 38, Georgia: 24, Ole Miss: 1
Big Ten	Ohio State: 62, USC: 1
Big 12	Utah: 36, Kansas State: 26, Oklahoma State: 1
ACC	Miami: 63
5th Best (currently all G5)	Northern Illinois: 27, Memphis: 13, Boise State: 11, UNLV: 7, Liberty: 1, Toledo: 1, None Selected: 3

Total Bids	Team(s)
63	Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Ole Miss, Miami
58	Tennessee
56	Missouri
52	Oregon
51	Penn State
36	Utah
34	USC
27	Kansas State, Northern Illinois
13	Memphis
11	Boise State
7	UNLV
1	Oklahoma State, Liberty, Toledo
3	Unspecified G5 Team

u/brianqueso Texas Longhorns • Texas State Bobcats Sep 15 '24

Once again, fuck you Bob Ballou.

u/Ixpqd Cincinnati • Ohio State Sep 15 '24

RANK TOLEDO YOU COWARDS

u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

Shocked the UW voter has us at 13 lmao

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u/WheatonsGonnaScore Oregon Ducks Sep 15 '24

To be fair our games were on at the same time. So they missed our 35 point win in order to watch UW lose to WSU.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

All of the voters that had us out of the top 10 are reporters for teams that hate us or SEC reporters. I'm glad these polls mean nothing with a 12 team playoff.

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u/Bmayne Oregon Ducks Sep 16 '24

And the Boise State guy has us at 12 I believe. Like don’t they want their loss to Oregon to be a quality one? Makes no sense.

u/Hawksteady Alabama Crimson Tide • UAB Blazers Sep 15 '24

Lol Rece Davis beating the homer allegations putting Bama behind Penn State and Oregon.

u/ItsZizk Tennessee • Johns Hopkins Sep 15 '24

I am unsure how you could watch our first three games and still rank us 11/12

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u/Mythic514 Tennessee • Third Satu… Sep 16 '24

I can live with it. I assume someone doing so is thinking "I don't really value NC State highly, so I don't think the Vols have been tested. If they do this to Oklahoma, they will jump." If they give us a nice boost if we win in Norman, it all evens out.

u/Lord777alt Oklahoma Sooners • Team Chaos Sep 15 '24

Ranking A&M should be a permanent ban

u/paradigm_x2 Pittsburgh Panthers Sep 15 '24

I apologize Shaun Goodwin, I was unfamiliar with your game.

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u/WallsRiy Boise State Broncos • Utah Utes Sep 15 '24

Crazy, most voters would have some sort of bias, some of em have us as high as 16 or 17. Which is crazy, but our own writer has you ahead of us. Which I’m happy with where we’re at for now. 27 in AP is justified I feel.

u/diecommajerks Pittsburgh Panthers • Sickos Sep 15 '24

Shaun Goodwin knows ball

u/sweetnourishinggruel California Golden Bears • The Axe Sep 15 '24

Those billboards in Atlanta worked on Chip Towers.

u/bonestomper420 Kansas State Wildcats Sep 15 '24

Top ten votes for KSU huh? 🤢

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u/BigToeGun Kansas State Wildcats • Hateful 8 Sep 15 '24

Yeah that’s a tad aggressive, but I think anywhere from 12-15 is appropriate which is where most have us.

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u/bonestomper420 Kansas State Wildcats Sep 15 '24

Thank god we don’t play Baylor this year

u/SmallBoulder Texas Longhorns Sep 15 '24

Rece Davis is the #1 OU hater

u/ogpeplowski64 Oklahoma • Cal Poly Pomona Sep 15 '24

The only person who TOGA'd this week was Creg Stephenson.

Also, Chris Murray is a certified ball-knower of the highest order. He has reached levels of ball-knowing that no mere mortal could ever reach.

u/DommyMommyKarlach Texas Longhorns Sep 15 '24

Respect to Jon Wilner, put the three teams I was missing in there (Hoosiers, Wazzu and UNLV)

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u/OMLIDEKANY Nebraska Cornhuskers • Team Chaos Sep 15 '24

I’m really starting to like this Wilner guy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

I’m a big fan of Wilner, and I’m totally unbiased.

u/Galumpadump Washington State • Cascade… Sep 15 '24

An Oregon/OSU affiliated voter is the reason A&M is ranked lol

u/CaliHusker83 /r/CFB Sep 16 '24

Iowa and CU having Nebraska unranked…. Shocker!!!

u/s-sea USC Trojans • Nebraska Cornhuskers Sep 15 '24

I know nothing about Randy Johnson or the Minneapolis Star Tribune but this man is my hero, dude's had USC in the top five all season so far

u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire Ole Miss Rebels • Billable Hours Sep 16 '24

Jon Wilner had Ole Miss at #9 last week. We then go on the road and blow out an admittedly mediocre Wake Forest…and he drops us to #11.

His “biased towards Miss State” is starting to make a lot of fucking sense.

u/AeroStatikk BYU Cougars • Texas A&M Aggies Sep 16 '24

We’re still letting Jon Wilner vote…? Woof

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u/PullmanWater Washington State • Oregon S… Sep 16 '24

I think we should hear him out for this week.

u/GoodGorilla4471 Pittsburgh Panthers • Marching Band Sep 16 '24

Shout-out Shaun Goodman from the Idaho Statesman. Certified ball knower

u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24

Unfortunately I love seeing Texas at 1

u/cheesepuff1993 Penn State • Millersville Sep 15 '24

The fact that our outliers average to our rank is oddly satisfying

u/ArbitraryOrder Michigan • Nebraska Sep 15 '24

The Nebraska voter has the closest to correct better, I would swap Michigan and Nebraska (moving Nebraska up.)

u/Allaboutfootball23 Texas Longhorns • Sickos Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

I’ve never heard of Bob Ballou but his rankings are pretty on-line with what I think. 1. Georgia 2. Ohio state 3. Texas. He has 4 as Oregon which id probably put them 5 with Alabama at 4.