r/AskThe_Donald discord.gg/saveamerica Nov 19 '22

Biden tells people concerned about heating their homes this winter that they can get a tax credit to install solar panels on their roofs. 🛌 Sleepy Joe 💤

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u/jonnas3000 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Soooo you have to spend $25,000 to get a credit of $7500 which you can only earn if you paid that amount in federal taxes that year. If you don’t have the $25,000, you then have to finance it. If you don’t have a good credit score your interest rate will be through the roof. Thanks for this guidance Prez

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

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u/HTTYDFAN4EVER NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Teleprompter is too far away

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

He is trying to be more like his Chinese masters

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

He is reading from a teleprompter.

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u/dukesinatra NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Thinking hurts. I've also read that the smaller your brain is, the tighter you have to squeeze your face - I think it has something to do with constricting the cranium around the pea-sized brain to force it do what it's supposed to. - some scientific journal

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '22

Squeezing on his depends makes him uncomfortable

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u/_memes_of_production Nimble Navigator Nov 19 '22

And if you rent, then you have to go and buy a house first, which just adds to the expense.

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u/jonnas3000 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Exactly.

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u/burnlootmurder6 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Leave it a guy that's been on the public's dime his own career to not care about interest rates.

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u/frankkungfu NOVICE Nov 19 '22

To his credit though he didn’t lose track of the zeros in the numbers like he normally does. Normally you would have saved either 75 thousand or 75 million depending on his mood

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u/mei740 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

The only way this makes sense is if you need a federal tax credit. The cost to install, the rebates and interest free loans it almost zeros out and if you have enough panels your electric bill becomes zero.

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u/wishtherunwaslonger NOVICE Nov 19 '22

If you don’t have good credit you are fucked. This is for homeowners that are doing fine and landlords property owners etc. even with increased rates it still makes sense if the property is good with panels. The problem is panels can be beyond expensive. At least where I live my neighborhood is gentrifying. Tons of panels. Elon!!! Make those panels not so damn reflective. Some of these houses shine like they are Sauron or one of those panel farms with mirrors. It’s blinding in the sun but beyond beautiful when not.

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u/Milli_Vanilli14 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

You can roll over the credit. It’ll get used. You can also lease. And the “financing” is literally you just paying less than your electricity bill. Zero upfront costs. Zero. No hidden fees.

I’ll add: for interest rate, as long as you’re not behind on your mortgage you get a good rate.

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u/Cutterman01 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

If you can’t afford your electricity how are you going to afford solar panel installation. It’s like telling people if you can’t afford your gas then buy a $60k electric vehicle.

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u/shawnward95 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

But that is what theyre saying.

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u/AnnasOpanas NOVICE Nov 19 '22

I can’t wait until someone asks how they can store wind power for those days without so much as a breeze.

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u/Gyr-falcon Nov 19 '22

Or solar when you can go days without sun in Northern climes, in winter.

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u/TalornCeleron NOVICE Nov 20 '22

That's simple. We take two wind turbines and put them in front of each other. Then it's just a matter of reversing the blades on one. After that they'll cause each other to revolve giving us perpetual clean energy.

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u/Uncartha NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Let them eat cake

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u/Milli_Vanilli14 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

Y’all need to research first then get outraged. Just did solar and went through this with a CPA.

Zero upfront costs. Not one dime. The financing is literally just paying less than your electricity bill. The tax credit can be rolled over. As long as your not behind on your mortgage you’ll get financed at a low interest rate. Rate is locked in for 25 years while electricity bills rise annually.

This is absolutely not the same as telling someone to buy a new car.

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u/Jackaloo382 COMPETENT Nov 20 '22

I'm sure that installation and labor was free, too, right?

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u/Milli_Vanilli14 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

It’s all baked in. I just got 16 panels and a panel upgrade and have paid zero dollars so far.

Really the only “catch” is that if you purchase the panels than you need to apply that 30% tax credit as a down payment but you can do that over years. If you don’t do that, then your monthly rate goes up to make up for it.

If you don’t feel comfortable doing that, than you can lease the panels and the company keeps the credit and your payment down.

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u/VetteBuilder NOVICE Nov 20 '22

This is so helpful for 90% that are living from check to check

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u/frodoishobbit NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Im so sick of these people telling us what’s best

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u/BillCoffe139 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

It’s dark and cloudy in Michigan probably 70-80% of the winter lol

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u/Winterlife4me NOVICE Nov 19 '22

They voted it in

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u/pontoon73 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

No, we really didn’t. Rhymes with Maude.

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u/suressteve NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Keep voting Dem.

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u/BigJig62 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Do solar panels still work when covered with snow?

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u/Fortyouncestofreedom NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Hahaha they probably break and then you have to pay to replace them!

But don’t worry you’ll get a tax break that doesn’t help anyone at all!!

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u/me_too_999 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

No

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u/Puppyboy2003 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Yes, but not well at all, or sufficiently to power your home. From experience, they still produce something in the winter, just not a lot. Also, when solar panels are doing their thing, they get hot. As s result, it melts the snow a bit. And all at once, scaring the shit out of everyone whoomphsh it all falls off at once. (Then it builds up again).

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

That’ll help so many, so thoughtful.

Clown 🤡 world

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u/Far_Excitement_8402 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Tell that bullshit to the people in Buffalo that are freezing their asses off in 5 ft of snow right now.

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u/556Armalite NOVICE Nov 19 '22

They voted for this ideology, so don’t feel sorry for them.

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u/beachwhistles NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Just think about warm places. Now clap you dumb bastards.

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u/Xirrious-Aj NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Fuck your tax credits.

How about you just stop taxing the ever living fuck out of everything first? Dissolves the need for credits.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

This would be nice, if it was true…I could afford to buy all that myself, had you not destroyed the economy and money laundered us into a recession.

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u/Formal-Earth-1460 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

whoo hoo I can barely afford food and gas let me dish out 30k for some solar panels i cant afford as well

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u/doniiebaseball2020 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

"That's not all!"

Really should go into as-seen-on-tv advertising

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u/Worldpeace909 Nov 19 '22

Is it me or does he sound like he’s slurring his words

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u/Specialist_Estate_54 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Brain is damaged

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u/woaily NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Just buy a new house that's already warm inside

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Yea I bet solar panels would really help Buffalo right about now..NOT! Not everyone state get unobtrusive constant sun. Right now Buffalo is getting SLAMMED with snow. Exactly how are “solar” panels supposed to work when they are buried under snow? This man is a moron pushing the green new deal!

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u/venrilmatic NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Even clear, winter insolation is terrible in the north.

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u/bdnova NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Dementia patient

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u/dharkeo NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Sounds like a sales pitch.

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u/vttex NOVICE Nov 19 '22

And let’s not forget if you heat with oil you’ll need to change over to electric heat.

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u/needles617 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

What happens if you rent? It is the one variable that stumps these people. They have nothing to say

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u/orginalAmerican NOVICE Nov 19 '22

They don’t have solar panels on their homes!

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u/dac5691 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Biden’s America can’t afford to fill your oil tank? Install solar panels!

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u/BeautifulStick5299 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Replacing windows in the average home costs roughly 16k. Joe give you 1k incentive. What a deal. Not a joke.

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u/556Armalite NOVICE Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 20 '22

Globalist elite especially those who are life long career politicians love to tell people what’s best for them. But hey the mid-terms indicate people want more of this mindless tele-prompter reading dolt.

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u/No_Elderberry5106 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

The potato seems to be declining a little faster now.

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u/Eightsevenfox NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Yea poor people, just buy 20k woth of solar if you can't afford heat. Duh!

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u/WagonBurning NOVICE Nov 19 '22

🤡

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u/Johnnie-Dazzle NOVICE Nov 19 '22

What if you live in a condo?

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u/Puppyboy2003 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Wait what. Usually there is some tiny merit to what Biden says, but does he just not know how solar panels work?

My family is fortunate enough to have solar panels, and I asked them how well they work thought the year. Summer is where they shine, (but he is talking about for winter).

In the winter, the day is shorter, reducing possible energy. Also, from my experience it is more often overcast, reducing possible energy. Also, there is this thing called snow, and from my experience it mostly stays on the panels (sometimes sliding off all at once), again, you guessed it, reducing the effectiveness of the panels.

It seems Biden is able to understand that there is a higher energy demand in the winter, but not only does he not understand the financial infesibiliry to many people (even with the government grants), he doesn't realize that solar panels are so utterly ineffective in the winter.

Our family goes all out with Christmas decorations in the winter, it makes my brother happy. But even if we didn't, there is no chance that we could be solely reliant on solar. And maybe that is not the point in Bidens mind. Maybe he thinks it will just supplement the needs. But at that point, it again is not economically feasable to buy a long term solution if you are struggling in the present.

To be clear, I am not against solar panels. I suggested to my family we get some, and try it out. They are cool to me. But I also understand that we are the outliers. We are the few able to spend that type of money now to save some in the future, most people can't. Biden can't see the struggles of people less fortunate then him, and admittedly I struggle with that too; but at least I try to realize it and not shove a bad financial decision down your throat.

Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But I just don't see how winter conditions + people already struggling + solar panels (with small price drop) = a rational solution. Other solutions he listed, maybe. Solar panels, no.

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u/MostlyUnimpressed NOVICE Nov 19 '22

replace your drafty windows in January when heat bills are peak, temperature is at bottom of swing, and no mfing workman is gonna even take your phone call.

same for all the other gibberish the idiot is babbling.

but they're warm fuzzy words for Democrat voting apartment dwellers in the cities of the North, the libs on public payroll and dole, the self righteous financially comfortable insiders who helped make this mess, on and on.

Human Stupidity reaches a new low. That's all I heard.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Keep this video ALIVE thru this winter!

I want to hear how many people benefited from this!

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u/Shop-Crafty NOVICE Nov 19 '22

30% of $30k on the cheap and more like $50K+ thanks uncle Joe!

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u/txpike NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Let them eat cake.

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u/me_too_999 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

In winter?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Solar panels don’t work when they’re covered in snow.

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u/ratmazter NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Just asking for a friend: Can barely afford paying the utility bill and the worst is yet to come over the winter. Sky high gas, food, dining, and overall inflation. My streaming costs have shot up along with my fishing lures. About to get a loan for the solar panels...will it juice AOC's Tesla, she wants to be my girlfriend.

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u/HarveyMushman72 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

I can't afford the upfront cost for solar panels, Joe. What now? Guess I'll just die.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

This makes as much sense as if you can’t afford gasoline buy a Tesla.

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u/redpillsea NOVICE Nov 19 '22

And how does that help the millions of renters??

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u/REALITY_PILL NOVICE Nov 19 '22

This dictator is an ASS WIPE

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u/Onidaar Nov 19 '22

This vegetable is so far out of touch with Reality, he is in a galaxy far far away

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u/venrilmatic NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Whoever is pulling his strings is an idiot.

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u/dakinlarry NOVICE Nov 19 '22

When elderly people start freezing to death the green movement has done it's job congratulations democrats

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u/SolongLife NOVICE Nov 20 '22

Fucking idiot. Telling bullshit and knows it. How cannot so many people see it?!?!

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u/TJOcculist NOVICE Nov 20 '22

At least he didn’t throw paper towels at them

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u/alwaysaplusone NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Who is going to shovel my roof snow?

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u/ChildoftheSun0221 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Lol. This guy is literally slurring his words

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u/KitchenSandwich5499 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

At least now we know where he and hunter invested the burisma, phizer, and china money

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u/troncatmeer NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Ahhh dang it. I knew I forgot to do something this summer… thx Joe. You totally understand

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u/kingkongcrete1234 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Hail is always a good time with solar panels.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

See you stupid Americans? You have to spend your money in order to save your money. What’s so difficult to understand about this? - Joe Biden

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u/peterman86 TDS Nov 19 '22

Drafty windows are not good for poor kids listening to the record player so they can be as smart as white kids, because they can get sick.

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u/Roamingfree1 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

400 watts of solar won't even heat my 6.5 by 10 foot camper.

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u/Flimsy_Dare9252 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Are the solar panels going to magically make home heating oil? 😂😂

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u/shawnward95 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

A tack credit y’all!

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u/nyr_nyy_nyg_nyk NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Honestly, I can get behind the upgrading windows and doors. I think if the govt made some sort or subsidy/0 interest repayment plan it would have a much bigger impact than telling ppl go buy an electric car. This is the issue. There is never an actual plan in place, just rhetoric.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

It's similar to Trump's injecting disinfectants. Someone told Trump about an actual treatment and someone told Biden about heat pump tax credits, but both can't pass the message.

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u/ElDerpington1234 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Can't wait for snow to build up on the solar panels and block out the light.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Good advice, Corn Pop. Also if you’re homeless, buy a house. I mean really. Why can’t anyone figure this shit out? /s

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u/Virel_360 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Credit on your taxes is codeword for you pay everything upfront and then later they give you money. “Yeah I’m struggling to afford heating in this house. I know I’ll go spend 25 grand on solar panels that’ll help.”

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u/Moby44 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

I think it’s time they tell us how many strokes he has had. This is not a well man.

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u/MysteriousRoad5733 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

When one is accustomed to their family flying around the world and picking up bags of cash, getting no show no work jobs and seats of boards of directors, it’s fair to say they lose touch with how regular people live.

In the case of our Dead Leader, it’s even worse because his people often fly on taxpayers dime to pick up their cash.

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u/Old_Alternative_2809 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

What he can’t read if he blinks?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Yeah, insta solar panels on the middle of winter when there is sun it is there a very short time. Not enough to charge those extremely expensive solar batteries not to mention the installation is expensive so if you can not afford your current heating source payment how would one afford solar panel installation. Mind you tax credit if approved comes months later so Bogus Joe Biden once again has his head way up his backside while listening to his puppet masters.

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u/jchoneandonly NOVICE Nov 19 '22

If he can buy me a solar panel system that will run 60 kwh every day then I'll take it

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u/true4blue Novice Nov 19 '22

Stupid me - my bad for being poor

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u/Emergency-Panic-6945 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

This is truly like the worst infomercial I have ever seen!!!!!!

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u/East_Intention_6952 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

What a stupid fuck

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u/darkstaraha NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Listen here jack, you build a dome over house, and you can use your solar panels year round. I got that idea from an underwater squirrel.

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u/vintagesoul_DE NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Yeah, the thing about tax credits is that you have to spend money to save money.

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u/JimNtexas NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Never mind that it’s often cloudy in winter, and panel will take decades to pay off.

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u/bendbarrel NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Stupidest thing I ever heard!

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u/Jpw135 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

I voted for him. I just felt really dumb

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u/Denizens_Of_Planet_X NOVICE Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22

Rain Man didn't know what things cost either...everything was around a hundred dollars. This old, decrepit piece of shit has absolutely no grasp on reality, especially when it comes to the absurdly high price of solar panels and batteries. Don't even get me started on the cost of a package of new windows. Does anyone have control of his mouth at this point???

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u/16F33 NOVICE Nov 19 '22

But what about that study to block the Sun the WH just funded?

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u/yodaddyfoo TDS Nov 19 '22

Sun don’t come out in the winter duhhhh

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u/and_another_username Told Me So Nov 20 '22

wasnt this guy in Dick Tracy?

bibodidit biboydidit bigboydidit BigBoyDidIt Big Boy Did It!

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u/IntroductionStock146 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

I'm so sick of this stupid lying POS.

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u/68hoss NOVICE Nov 20 '22

2000 for a heat pump...my last one cost 14k about 7 years ago.

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u/Smooth-Tea7058 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

What about the millions of people that rent?

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u/SpotDifferent7824 NOVICE Nov 22 '22

Buy a house, or inform your landlords dummy

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u/Aggravating-Visit-1 Nov 20 '22

Do people have electric heaters in cold climates? Actual question as I have lived in southern cal my entire life but I have only had gas heaters in any house I’ve lived in..

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u/neilww1 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

Just how much more out of touch can this stone cold criminal be?

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u/Intelligent-Plant912 NOVICE Nov 20 '22

Where I live, everything he said is wrong. Fahk me I guess. And you. And everyone who lives here. Except perverts and petty theives. They're apparently the new poster children for this post modern America.

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u/Bigfoot_USA discord.gg/saveamerica Nov 19 '22

Yeah, no. That's not how things work nor is it now they should work.

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u/Bigfoot_USA discord.gg/saveamerica Nov 19 '22

Surely there are better trolls you guys can send over here. Sad.

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u/Bigfoot_USA discord.gg/saveamerica Nov 19 '22

Then don't associate with them.

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u/cold_blue_light_ NOVICE Nov 19 '22

Not an awful idea tbh. Long term it would save a lot of money and valuable resources

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u/Bigfoot_USA discord.gg/saveamerica Nov 19 '22

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