r/AskReddit Jul 13 '15

What socially unacceptable things are you OK with?

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u/RUN_BKK Jul 13 '15

stark absence

heh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

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u/ragnar-lothbrook Jul 13 '15

Always love a dead family pun

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u/ErickHatesYou Jul 14 '15

Hey they're not a dead family, they're just a dead father, mother, brother, half-brother, uncle, aunt... okay, they're kinda a dead family.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I don't know how I would feel if SANSA was the only one who ended up living.

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u/ErickHatesYou Jul 14 '15

Oh no, if Bran dies I riot. Fuck that shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15 edited Jul 14 '15

You've still got lil' Rikki and Ay-babay.

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u/Restil Jul 14 '15

Still have 4 of the 5 legitimate children puttering around, two of whom can carry on the family name. Not quite dead yet.

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u/atlanta_gt Jul 14 '15

but seriously what happened to Bran?

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u/akeyjavey Jul 14 '15

He's doing his Professor X training obviously

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u/driveonacid Jul 14 '15

He's logged into weirwood.net right now. It's almost as bad as reddit. But, I think he'll run out of blue links by next season.

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u/benzooo Jul 14 '15

He's gonna be in avatar 2, with new legs

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u/ZWQncyBkaWNr Jul 14 '15

"Lieutenant Bran got new legs!"

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u/OldTimeyPugilist Jul 14 '15

He buggered off.

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u/dendroidarchitecture Jul 14 '15

They finished his storyline in the last season to keep them all balanced throughout 1-4 so there wasn't anything to put in 5. They'll pick him back up (well he can't walk on his own...) in season 6

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u/SamWhite Jul 14 '15

They realised the effect he had on ratings.

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u/ragnar-lothbrook Jul 14 '15

Hey, I (SPOILER) believe that (SPOILER) Jon isn't really dead. The red Priestess lady (Milisandre, Right?) can bring people back to life with some good mojo, and they just burned poor stannis's daughter so her mojo meter should be full. I expect to see more Jon Snow

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u/ErickHatesYou Jul 14 '15

Yeah that seems to be the general consensus on what they're planning, but as of right now that guy's dead as a sack of potatoes.

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u/ragnar-lothbrook Jul 14 '15

thats been stabbed by the other sacks of living fruit. bananas, apples, Olly-Oranges, pears. ect

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u/ErickHatesYou Jul 15 '15

Potatoes are a vegetable...

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u/ragnar-lothbrook Jul 15 '15

Ok buddy, how about other bags of alive " assorted produce"

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u/RUN_BKK Jul 13 '15 edited Jul 13 '15

touche

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u/kore_nametooshort Jul 13 '15

small minority

Heh :)

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u/ComradeStrange Jul 14 '15

small minority

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u/ehkodiak Jul 13 '15

That went well :P

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u/Luuklilo Jul 13 '15

You're swell

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u/Joevual Jul 14 '15

Too soon...

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

Nicely done!

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u/helpful_hank Jul 14 '15

I thought "small minority" was better.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15 edited Jul 14 '15

small minority

Gonna assume this was intentional too.

EDIT: Formatting

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15 edited Jun 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

short period

hehe

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u/I_AM_POOPING_NOW_AMA Jul 13 '15

Still too soon :(

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u/takanishi79 Jul 13 '15

I saw that, and immediately checked to make sure someone else giggled about that.

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u/Silidon Jul 14 '15

heh

You want some pie?

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u/intro2womenslasers Jul 14 '15

And since we're such a small minority

Heh as well.

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u/reallyoffensiveporn Jul 14 '15

small minority

Heh

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u/psykulor Jul 13 '15

OK so is the Station Agent good? I wanted more Dinklage, so I was happy when I found it, but I haven't seen it yet.

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u/shelbyknits Jul 13 '15

It's very good, but it's definitely a character study. Dinklage is an exceptional actor. It's hard to to portray someone so introverted and quiet without coming across as flat, but he does it.

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u/Chompy_Chom Jul 13 '15

But can he save the train wreck that is the upcoming film Pixels?

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u/NoMouseLaptop Jul 13 '15

He was the best part of Knights of Badassdom, so there's hope.

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u/KngNothing Jul 13 '15

If you go into these movies expecting ridiculous , but fun, nonsense - they're great. I loved Knights of Badassdom, but i was looking to have a few drinks and watch a ridiculous movie about LARPing. I'm sure Pixels will be just about as 'terrible', but great if you're going in to watch a ridiculous goofy movie, with a little nostalgia thrown in.

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u/yayster Jul 14 '15

Always nice to see Summer Glau too.

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jul 14 '15

The short film was cool. So it has that going for it, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

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u/wiiv Jul 13 '15

Dinklage is the man. I found it pretty cool that his role in X-men as Bolivar Trask was (if I remember right) absent of any mention of achondroplasia - I don't even think there were any height references of any kind. He was just another character.

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u/life_in_the_willage Jul 14 '15

Yes! That's what I was trying to remember. You're correct - his height was never mentioned in the whole thing.

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u/FicklePickle13 Jul 14 '15

From what I remember, he was cast based on his audition. They weren't looking for someone with dwarfism, so they didn't write the character as a dwarf, so they didn't cock it up with the usual stupidity.

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u/_PM_ME_YOUR_SECRETS_ Jul 14 '15

Was too! When he went to the congress I think or somewhere they made a height joke I'm sure of it

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

I also enjoyed the station agent.

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u/Emmelon Jul 13 '15

The Station Agent is brilliant! I love films (and tv shows, books etc) that are really driven by character and subtle relationships and The Station Agent is such a great example of that. Café con leche, comin' up!

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u/fireduck Jul 13 '15

Yeah, I would describe it as a great movie in which nothing happens. Also, who doesn't have a garlic press?

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u/manachar Jul 13 '15

The Station Agent is a phenomenal film. I loved everything about it. Dinklage's performance was amazing, and the supporting cast worked well.

There's something about his situation in life that I really really related to. Helps I was into trains as a kid (and could totally see myself as one of those people who turns his basement into a giant train room).

Thematically the film feels in the same vein as A Fine and Private Place by Peter S. Beagle, which is equally a story I adore.

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u/poppy_moonray Jul 13 '15

Oh, wow! I love A Fine and Private Place, and I've never known anyone else who'd read it. I used to read it over and over in high school, and even practice drawing the illustrations in it. I also loved The Station Agent, and you're right, they do have a similar tone. You just made my night with that reference, internet stranger.

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u/manachar Jul 14 '15

Awesome! You just made my day. You're right, it's not the best-known book. I picked it up because of the Last Unicorn and stayed for Rebeck and crew.

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u/lady_lilitou Jul 14 '15

That was my first Beagle novel! I actually read that long before I ever got around to The Last Unicorn. And The Station Agent is also terrific. That movie is why I was stoked when I started seeing Peter Dinklage show up in movies and then on GoT.

Yay for random internet people with good taste!

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u/ganeagla Jul 14 '15

The Station Agent was the first time I came across Peter Dinklage. He was so charismatic and engaging, I remember I was comparing him to Tom Cruise after I watched it. I was totally unsurprised when he started becoming a big star thanks to GoT

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u/totalrecarl Jul 13 '15

I really liked it. Dinklage definitely gives a very subtle performance that works really well. And Bobby Cannavale's enthusiasm is pretty damn infectious. I loved his character.

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u/benchley Jul 14 '15

I'm watching season 3 of Boardwalk Empire, and man, does Bobby Cannavale go in a different direction... good interview on NPR a while back, too.

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u/totalrecarl Jul 14 '15 edited Jul 19 '15

He's really great in Boardwalk Empire as Gyp. One of the most menacing characters on that show. He's just solid in everything. Hilarious in The Other Guys and Modern Family too.

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u/evixir Jul 15 '15

I had only seen Cannavale in Third Watch before I saw him in The Station Agent and I was really impressed with him afterwards. So earnest and just desperately wants to be friends with Finn. Love this flick.

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u/totalrecarl Jul 22 '15

Definitely. People are making fun of Dinklage and he defends him and genuinely wants to just be friends with him. Cannavale feels like an outsider there and sees Dinklage as one as well. He doesn't see him as a dwarf outsider, just as an outsider. Like when he asks him that earnest question about whether his people have clubs. And he was actually talking about train people, not dwarves.

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u/nickrenata Jul 13 '15

I loved it. It's a very simple, character-driven film. Dinklage is outstanding.

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u/omgdonerkebab Jul 14 '15

I randomly saw The Station Agent one day, without having heard of it at all. It was really good, and afterwards I went looking up who Peter Dinklage was because his performance was exceptional.

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u/So_Motarded Jul 13 '15

I'm going to chime in and say I didn't really like it. The acting was great but the whole thing was a great bore to me. It's just some regular small-town people living their lives. They have their quirks and hobbies, and we see those played out as they hang out together. But that's it. To me, there was nothing spectacular about "normal people doing stuff".

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u/evixir Jul 15 '15

Interpersonal psychology not really your thing then?

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u/takanishi79 Jul 13 '15

In the words of a college film professor, "it is the best film you will ever see about a dwarf that loves trains."

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

It's exceptional in my opinion. It has some of the annoying characteristics of independent movies (that make them seem like they are taking themselves too seriously, even when it's a comedy), but it's minimal and it's just a good movie.

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u/nairebis Jul 14 '15

I liked it, but you have to like character studies. Don't go expecting a complex plot that will change your outlook or anything. But the characters feel real, and it has great, subtle performances.

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u/MrBojangles528 Jul 14 '15

It's very slow, but yes it is a good film

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

I feel like for a long time, people's exposure to people with dwarfism in the media was limited to Verne Troyer as Mini-Me and so dwarfs were kind of a punchline. I think some of Peter Dinklage's early roles reflect that. But that man has almost singlehandedly cemented the radical concept that dwarfs are just average people into the American media consciousness. Between Tyrion and the bad guy from X-Men Days of Future Past, he's done an excellent job portraying a flawed man who just happens to have dwarfism, and I think that's awesome.

Honestly it is so weird to me that height is a punchline so often. I'm a very tall woman and we're a punchline pretty often too, though not to the degree you see people with dwarfism or even just men without dwarfism who are short used as a punchline. It's rare you see anyone outside the range of 5'5"-6'3" or so on TV and their height isn't remarked upon at least 6 times per season.

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u/Garroch Jul 13 '15

Personally, I just thought of Dinklage's character in Days of Future Past as a dwarf. As in, it didn't even register for me. He was first off a bad guy, and 2nd, it was Peter Dinklage. I never identified the character as a dwarf, and I don't believe it is ever mentioned in the movie.

That just goes to show how amazing of an actor he really is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

It's not ever mentioned. After I saw that movie I was like "Wow. He just played a guy who HAPPENS to be short, and no one mentioned it." Of course I think his dwarfism had something to do with his motivations- the mutants, like him, have a genetic abnormality- but not once did anyone bring up his height in the movie.

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u/ZerexTheCool Jul 14 '15

An important note. They also did not dance around it pretending not to notice it.

His character really was fully fleshed out and nobody cared that he was also a dwarf.

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u/tha_dank Jul 13 '15

I guess it may have to do with me being pretty tall myself, but I never got the punchline aspect with tall ladies (I loooove tall women). Like do you get a lot of "amazon woman" or what?

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u/4077 Jul 14 '15

Dude, how could you forget about Warwick Davis playing Willow Ufgood??

"Willoooooowww!!! .... Baaa!!!"

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u/RedTheWolf Jul 14 '15

I first saw Peter Dinklage in Threshold, a short-lived (and awesome!) sci-fi show about a subtle alien invasion and he was also brilliant in that - he played a grumpy mathematician genius who just happened to also have dwarfism. Check it out if you can find it!

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u/RocketCow Jul 13 '15

This makes me very happy to read, I'm glad some people have become slightly less ignorant.

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u/Koopa_Troop Jul 13 '15

Exposure is the best way to fight ignorance.

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u/XxsquirrelxX Jul 13 '15

GoT should add some more minorities. It worked out for dwarves.

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u/BAM521 Jul 13 '15

If I remember the books correctly, I can think of at least one guy who was described as white in the text but was played by a black man on screen: Xaro Xhoan Daxos.

Compare his book wiki page (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Xaro_Xhoan_Daxos) to his show wiki page (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Xaro_Xhoan_Daxos).

I don't think the change was detrimental to the character in any way. And as far as I can tell, no one has complained.

Edit: I actually thought of another. Take a look at book Salladhor Saan (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Salladhor_Saan) and show Salladhor Saan (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Salladhor_Saan).

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

Areo Hotah is another

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u/SomeBroadYouDontKnow Jul 14 '15

Isn't Prince Doran handicapped?

I want to say he has gout or something and he can't walk, but I'm not 100% on that.

...Annnd after a google search, I am 100% on that. Yep, he has gout and trouble walking.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

Jon and Kate plus eight helped me out. Girls were wondering about cute half Asian babies.

Then the walking dead was awesome, with Glenn getting with a babe like Maggie as well. Honestly I think I like that portrayal very well. An Asian who isn't good at math and doesn't know Kung fu. But is a badass.

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u/Silent_Sky Jul 13 '15

Not to mention, Peter fucking Dinklage, man. Peter. Fucking. Dinklage.

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u/Bens_Dream Jul 14 '15

I think that's what he was on about when he mentioned GoT and Station Agent.

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u/the_cat_kittles Jul 13 '15

peter dinklage is the god damn coolest person, and he keeps getting cooler

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u/yayster Jul 14 '15

I would like to have a beer with him, just chilling out.

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u/ohnoitsZombieJake Jul 13 '15

How do you feel about In Bruge?

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u/Shaysdays Jul 13 '15

While the series itself was a soap opera turned up to 11, Dinklage's portrayal of the nanny in Nip/Tuck was amazing.

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u/dodgerh8ter Jul 13 '15

How do you feel about the movie Elf?

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

Adding this to my "media representation fucking matters" folder.

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u/FaceofHoe Jul 14 '15

If this is a real folder please share said contents with me

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u/glxyjones Jul 13 '15

I haven't really thought of his role having such a large impact but after thinking about my own personal responses, it really is huge. I remember seeing The Station Agent over 10 years ago and being somewhat surprised to see a dwarf playing the lead role, but today, I wouldn't think twice. The Little Couple on TLC has also helped me better understand the lives and issues people with achondroplasia go through. If you haven't watched it, I'd recommend it. Yeah it's reality TV but IMO, those two are the most nice and genuine people on TV.

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u/deeper182 Jul 13 '15

we're such a small minority

:). Aside from the pun, thanks for the great answer!

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u/wu_niversity Jul 13 '15

"...small minority"

I see what you did there.

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u/gratefulstringcheese Jul 13 '15

Game of Thrones

a stark absence

hehehe

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u/SoleilNobody Jul 13 '15

Yes but what about Dwarf Fortress dwarves? They're basically the single most fucking metal species in the universe!

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u/SeansGodly Jul 13 '15

The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant!

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u/bobaimee Jul 13 '15

What's your view on all the TLC shows portraying people with dwarfism?

Do you view those reality TV shows in the same light as you view GoT?

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u/glglglglgl Jul 13 '15

Dinkage is also in X-Men: Days of Future Past and there are no comments about his stature, if I remember rightly. Like GoT, he is just another actor in the film.

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u/-Kryptic- Jul 13 '15

Kind of ironic, cause in the eyes of most high fantasy, being short does make you a subspecies! I always hated fantasy for saying Orks are inherently violent, or elves inherently graceful, or hobbits inherently jovial. t's just so unbelievable.

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u/XSplain Jul 13 '15

Yeah. I always felt bad that the typical small person role was always just that it was someone's boss and there was an awkward comedy skit about avoiding making short puns.

In fact, I hate when any one physical trait dictates an entire character. It's just lazy writing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '15

THIS Is why representation in media is so damn important! It DOES make a huge difference.

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u/computeraddict Jul 13 '15

We are people of happenstance, and not some weird subspecies lol

Why not both?

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u/TA818 Jul 13 '15

This is a fantastic firsthand example of why representation in the media is so important, for all sorts of types of people.

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u/plutomutt Jul 13 '15

The Station Agent is one of my favorite films! :)

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u/DrNinjaPandaManEsq Jul 13 '15

The Station Agent was the one where they guy has a bunch of trains, right?

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u/idog73 Jul 14 '15

I love The Station Agent and recommend it to everybody. Until GOT that and Elf are all I knew Peter Dinklege from.

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u/fitterhappier04 Jul 14 '15

I'm not a dwarf, but I will say that Peter Dinklage is the man. Plus, his real name doubles as his porn name!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I think 30 rock did a pretty good job when they had dinklage on

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u/Todayzee Jul 14 '15

I thank you for sharing this story. It's important to know representation matters.

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u/KeijyMaeda Jul 14 '15

I never had the chance to actually ask this, and I mean no offense, but, do you call yourselves "dwarfs"? And is it therefore okay to speak of you as such? I always assumed it would be offensive. But then again I have no idea what would be an un-offensive term to use.

EDIT: And now I just read further down that people are already interrogating you about this. Whoops.

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u/Marcus22405 Jul 14 '15

So you really noticed a social change when GOT blew up? That's sad a show has to teach people how to be decent people

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u/ThermalAnvil Jul 14 '15

I mean, youre just an adult that is shorter than the average adult, I dont get why society acts like its a "novelty" or that youre a "one dimensional character." Youre just short, so? I feel similar to people who are racist, the other person is just a different skin colour, their just darker or lighter than you, why does that matter? We're all still just people.

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u/WalropsHunter Jul 14 '15

I really liked the Station Agent. Adding it to my queue.

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u/enough99 Jul 14 '15

That makes me so happy to hear. I love Dinklage's character.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DARKNESS Jul 14 '15

Oh man, I love The Station Agent. It's so good and completely under-rated. I recommend it to people all the time. It's the first really positive portrayal of a person with dwarfism and makes them out to be a real fucking human being with actual feelings.

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u/Domriso Jul 14 '15

I remember reading The Superior Spiderman and being so happy that they actually pursued the romantic relationship between Peter and Anna Maria. I'm not a dwarf in the slightest (I'm 6' 3") but it always seemed so out of place that dwarves are relegated to the position of fetish in so many people's minds.

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u/dankerstrain Jul 14 '15

I enjoyed little people, big world.

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u/413612 Jul 14 '15

Can I show this post to anyone who cries about how representation of minorities doesn't matter? That's so cool to read, I'm really happy for you.

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u/awesomeoctopus98 Jul 14 '15

Ugh maybe but my friend kept asking me after watching GoT if my brother who has dwarfism was an imp or a half-man and stuff like that. The other thing that bothers me is that people treat my brother too good. Like he gets treated super well by most people just because he has dwarfism. He is really popular and all the teachers like him. Sadly I believe that a big part of the reason for that is his dwarfism.

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u/lord_james Jul 14 '15

Did you ever see the Vin Diesel movie "Find Me Guilty"? One of the actors in the film is a dwarf. He plays a lawyer. The fact that he's a dwarf is never mentioned. I've always thought that was super progressive, and it came out years before GoT. It's sad how rarely dwarfs are cast in roles that don't "require" being a dwarf.

You should really do an AMA. I, and I assume others, have a lot of questions about how you live our life and how people act around you.

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u/FicklePickle13 Jul 14 '15

Having never seen those two movies, all I can think of aside from Tyrion is a one-off character named Alexander from Star Trek's "Plato's Stepchildren".

And that is fucking sad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I imagine films like Austin Powers didn't help, though. Mini-Me is an explicit comedic play on dwarfism.

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u/draykop Jul 14 '15

Tiptoes. Gary Oldman. Other big names. Horrible. I screen this movie every year with friends and it's awful every time.

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u/DaemonJP Jul 14 '15

"small minority" - was this deliberate? This feels deliberate

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

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u/jostler57 Jul 14 '15

The dude from Insignificant Harvey was excellent in the amazing movie "In Bruges."

Although, it doesn't portray dwarves in a great light, his character is unforgettable and also a key point in the movie.

(It's one of my favorites of all time, so worth a watch!)

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u/zimtkuss Jul 14 '15

I'm so happy to read this. It's something I have been wondering about since watching the show. It makes me feel validated in believing diversity and having fully developed minority characters in the in the media makes a difference.

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u/eqleriq Jul 14 '15

I dunno, it just reinforced my perception of dwarves as crafty and mischevous.

I kid! (not really)

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u/RebelScumbag Jul 14 '15

small minority

Heh...

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u/Alkanfel Jul 14 '15

I know I'm a bit late to this party but I just wanted to chime in with an anecdote: my father, brother and I are all fairly tall guys (my dad is the shortest of us at 5'11") and while watching an episode one night my old man opined something like "Man, Tyrion is such a cool character. He makes you want to be him, which is not something I ever expected to say about a dwarf." We all agreed. I was never particularly 'grossed out' or whatever by dwarfism, but I hadn't considered that perspective. I'd totally trade places with Tyrion, dwarf or not. I truly believe that through his portrayal of Tyrion, Peter Dinklage has made life easier for the (western) dwarf. If I saw one tomorrow I wouldn't even bat an eye.

But yeah, you're absolutely right about media portrayals. Most of the time, dwarf actors are tapped for comical roles (such as in Austin Powers and Bad Santa) but even if they're awesome like Verne Troyer and Tony Cox, it's not really a 'meaty' role. While watching the first few episodes of GoT, I remember being thrilled for Dinklage having the opportunity to portray a character who wasn't just there to generate cheap laughs. I'm glad that the show has had a positive effect on your life, reading your post made me smile.

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u/TwaHero Jul 14 '15

Peter Dinklage in elf was a great dwarf character. Come to think about it he might just be a great actor.

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u/belinck Jul 14 '15

No love for Willow?

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u/belinck Jul 14 '15

Fair statement.

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u/Costco1L Jul 14 '15

The Station Agent

Let's not pass over the fact that this was also starring Peter Dinklage. (and is a really phenomenal portrayal in a rather good film)

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u/Retro21 Jul 16 '15

wow, this is really awesome to hear. You've got to wonder how society would function if we were all judged only on our personalities.