r/Archery • u/JesadBellic Newbie • Sep 02 '24
My first bow. Olympic Recurve
Very excited to finally have a hobby that gets me out of the house. Can't wait to get this fella out on the range!
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u/FluffleMyRuffles Olympic Recurve/Cats/Target Compound Sep 02 '24
Very nice colour matching. What riser is that? Looks like a Kinetic I think...?
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 02 '24
It's a Topoint X dual colour.
I believe it's Topoint's latest offering and only came out a few months back (but don't quote me on that).
A bit spendy, and was so new I struggled to find reviews on it but bought it because I'm superficial and it looked pretty/matched the aesthetic I was going for.
Their Unison riser has good reviews so I've gone out on a limb and assumed this one will be just as good.
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u/Migit78 Freestyle Recurve 1 Sep 02 '24
Don't stress, thats the logic most archers use for bow and accessory purchases. Especially the first few.
Aesthetics is most important.
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u/Rakadaka8331 Sep 02 '24
If it makes me want to shoot it more then it makes me a better archer right?
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u/hamsta007 Fivics Vellator v2 / Krossen limbs 30# Sep 02 '24
I thought that it's Kinetic Sovren Dual colour π
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u/FluffleMyRuffles Olympic Recurve/Cats/Target Compound Sep 02 '24
Yeah it looks great. Enjoy your riser!
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u/TheIgorMC Hoyt Prodigy | Mathews TRX38 Sep 02 '24
Looks a lot like a kinetic invinso V2... Don't know if they are made by topoint tho, the price seems around the same and the riser is the same lol I heard topoint makes some stuff for other brands so...
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u/FluffleMyRuffles Olympic Recurve/Cats/Target Compound Sep 02 '24
I had to check and dang. This is the Topoint version.
I hope OP didn't pay $550 USD though because it's an attempt at copying the Invisio/Invasion V2 that's cheaper. They only look similar with some differences, Kinetic's version doesn't use a wooden grip and the support structures inside are slightly different. Overall shape is the same.
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u/KagaK2 Sep 02 '24
Digging the choice of colors here, nice one!
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 02 '24
I tell you what, finding stuff in purple (and in stock as well) is a struggle.
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u/KagaK2 Sep 02 '24
Haha Ikr, I still cant get over Shibuya releasing a purple RC3 sight one month after I bought a black one.
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u/ShotaShaun_Eldrick Sanlida Miracle X9 (w/ X10 Riser) Sep 02 '24
So Immaculate it made me bust and ascend π«π«π«
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u/MD_Lincoln Sep 02 '24
Iβm also curious about the riser, looks great!
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 02 '24
I had so much fun with getting it to look the way I wanted. The riser is a Topoint X.
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u/OnlyFamOli Olympic Recurve Newbie | WNS Elnath FX / B1 68" 26# Sep 02 '24
purple and black thats so sick!!
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u/hamsta007 Fivics Vellator v2 / Krossen limbs 30# Sep 02 '24
Nice colours. I thought about buying this riser but decided to go with another one because the finishing of it looks too rough. Can't wait to get my first setup. Now I'm still shooting with basic Core bow π
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u/Speedly Olympic Recurve/OFFICIAL LEAGUE OVERLORD or whatever Sep 02 '24
How you gonna have a black and purple bow, but orange and white fletchings? There's no chance they're gonna fly right like that!
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 03 '24
Aaaaa! I KNOW. I went with some pre-made arrows and unfortunately the fletch colour is random.
I promise once I'm feeling brave enough I'll refletch them in purple!
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u/Proud_Action_899 Sep 02 '24
Looks good you buy as a whole or built it ? Where you get the limbs an I love that riser
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 03 '24
All the components were bought in person or online from local stores here in Australia and then I put it together myself.
Stores were Topoint Archery, Archery Supplies, and Benson Archery.
The limbs in particular are WNS Motive F5's and came from Archery Supplies, Adelaide.
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u/Proud_Action_899 Sep 03 '24
How do you like the setup an what's your draw ? Im building three of them at the same time .
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u/JesadBellic Newbie Sep 03 '24
In case anyone was wondering about what any of the equipment is:
Riser: Topoint X 25" Dual Colour Purple/Black
Limbs: WNS Motive F5 70" 24lbs
String: Custom Purple/Black
Plunger: Shibuya DX Purple
Sight: WNS SPR-100 Black
Stabilisers: Topoint-X Lightweight set Purple
Quiver: Legend XT-320 Purple
Arrows: Pandarus Champion (pre-made)
Arrow Rests: Cartel Stick-ons
Bowbag: Legend XT-720 Purple
Arm Guard: Cartel CR-6
Finger Tabs: Decut RUGBII / WNS SF-100
Finger Sling: Bicaster Purple
Bow Stand: WNS S-ALΒ
Tools:
Topoint Limb Line Gauges
BCY Nock Serving
Bohning Wax Tex-Tite
Bohning CoolFlex
AAE Max Bond Fletch Glue
WNS Bow Square
Easton Pro Hex Allen Wrench
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u/CaseyGiornesto123 Sep 02 '24
It looks nice but is it your actual first spell are you just now getting to archery if it is I suggest you use something more like wooden bow
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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 PSE Perform-X 3D | Easton X7 | Stan Element Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
They don't need to start with a trad bow lol it doesn't matter that much. Sure, they may not have the skills to take full advantage of their equipment yet, but one day they will.
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u/CaseyGiornesto123 Sep 02 '24
I know I just said that for example I'm saying is before you start using all the equipment you should just use the bow it self
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u/FluffleMyRuffles Olympic Recurve/Cats/Target Compound Sep 02 '24
That's only true for like the first hour so they can get the basic form down, then the sight goes on to help with aiming. After a few weeks the stabs slowly get put on and etc.
There's no need to get a "dead end" Traditional bow if someone wants to go Olympic Recurve. A huge waste of money to get a bow that's not the right style of shooting. No reason to shoot something that doesn't have a plunger and etc.
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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 PSE Perform-X 3D | Easton X7 | Stan Element Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
This. A lot of people advocate for some progression from traditional barebow up the "ladder" towards whatever competition level discipline you choose, which is the progression I did, and I generally would advise against it. Instead of actually progressing, what happened in reality is I had to relearn how to shoot multiple times, because I had developed habits that only fit the previous form of shooting.
In OP's case, if they were to shoot it barebow for months or longer then they'd be completely thrown off by the sight once it is put on.
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u/MindInitial2282 Sep 02 '24
Nevermind jacking-off cash, time, effort and other such depreciating assets.
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u/NotASniperYet Sep 02 '24
I see it like a class tree. The basic recurve is the starter class and you'll easily hit the level where you can upgrade to one of the 'real' beginner classes: Oly recurve, bare bow, compound, western trad or asiatic. Depending on which class branch you pick, you'll either move in a straight line or have to make another decision or two along the way. For instance, compound splits up again soon after the beginner class, into 'hunting' and 'target'. If your goal is master Oly recurve before the end of the game (read: your life), then it makes little sense to make a bunch of detours along the other class paths, as very few skills you can pick up there will add anything to the meta Oly recurve build.
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u/MindInitial2282 Sep 02 '24
I'm glad that path wasn't for me!
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u/NotASniperYet Sep 03 '24
To each their own. There's a branch for everyone. And heck, nobody is stopping you from class hopping either, if that's what you enjoy most. I got some points into most branches, but Oly recurve is the class for me.
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u/Karomara Sep 02 '24
Why does it have to be wood? I also decided against wood, even though I shoot barebow and am sure I want to stick with barebow. I didn't like wood in the club as I have very small hands. I've been told I'll probably like metal better because it's smaller (with the exception of some models). Since I've tried it I can't imagine going back. My first own bow was therefore not a wooden bow.
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u/CaseyGiornesto123 Sep 02 '24
I just said one boat accident what I'm trying to say use a bow that don't have all that equipment on it
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u/Karomara Sep 02 '24
I understand your approach, but I don't share your view. Is it wrong to start Barebow first? Probably not. You could also argue that you should start with a more classic bow without an arrow rest etc. first.
Ultimately, the technique is different, albeit similar. If OP plans to shoot olympic, it is okay to learn accordingly. A change would require relearning the technique. I've seen people who have started barebow and people who have started olympic. Both methods worked. You can only ever work on individual aspects of technique anyway. Even with barebow, you don't have every detail right away. But the change would then require to relearn things like aiming, anchor, grip. An important reason why barebow is sometimes recommended as a starting point is the cost factor. You don't have such high costs at the beginning because you can buy the rest later. But there is nothing wrong with starting with a complete kit.
I would have been happy if that had played a bigger role in our club to learn what the goal is. For me it was clear from the start that it would be barebow. I'm currently re-learning, as beginners are learning the mediterranean grip and the anchor I learnt wasn't ideal. I had to cancel and relearn a lot of what I once learnt. It didn't have to be that way. Too much of my technique was basically for olympic style. Maybe it's because our coaches shoot olympic, I don't know. This is of no use to me in practice, as I have no plans to change. And if I ever do change my mind, I'll have to retrain again anyway.
And even if someone starts with Barebow: If you then switch and shoot something else for a long time, you can't just switch again. The processes are in your head and you don't just flip a switch and change the type. If you wanted to shoot two styles permanently, you would have to train two permanently.
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u/NotASniperYet Sep 02 '24
Which is most likely what OP did before buying their own equipment. If you're interested in Oly recurve, clubs typically have you shooting 1-3 classes with a basic recurve. Whether that one has a metal or wooden riser varies per club - it's not usual for clubs to have a bit of both available. After that, you'll shoot with a sight for a while. Once you get to the point where you want to put on a stabiliser, you're likely already researching your own equipment. Buying something exactly like the club uses for beginners makes little sense from a financial or learning perspective. You want something that will allow you to grow.
Looking at what OP's showcasing, they definitely did their research. It's basically all sensible beginner-intermediate equipment and you definitely don't get a colour coordinated kit on accident - that requires extra research. They obviously knew what they were doing. They're not a 'going for my first lesson' level beginner, but a 'got my first bow, time to get serious' beginner.
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u/NotASniperYet Sep 02 '24
Those wooden bows are typically club equipment people use before deciding they want their own setup. OP's setup is normal for a first Oly recurve bow.
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u/DarthAwsm Sep 02 '24
Congrats!